Guys I have a theory about MKUltra

Psychology as a field was really productive and interesting during the 30s to 60s. Then it became bullshit about feelings and social justice. I always attributed this to women entering academia.

But what if the real reason is because mind control programs were so successful that the government basically co-opted real psychology, hid it away, and distracted the rest of academia with a silly feminized bullshit version of it?

It makes sense.

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To what end?

Hurr IDK having a monopoly on the useful and powerful aspects of psychological research like mind control and interrogation techniques

>I always attributed this to women entering academia.
I still attribute it to that, though I do think you've got an interesting concept going on here.
Look at spirituality. Women get a female-centric religion, Paganism/Wicca/Whatever, and now they're praising made up Gods and selling shiny rocks to each other, and everyone can recite what the rocks are called and what magic powers they have, but no one can point you towards the source of their claims or the reason why the rocks cost $5 an ounce.

Just women being women.

I was like 8 years old and playing with two girls in the neighborhood, they wanted to build a tree fort, one of them grabs a length of rope and ties it from one branch to another and tries to climb across it, the rope snaps and she injures herself and everyone gets in trouble. When I get home and talk to my dad about it he's basically like "I'm not mad at you, but you need to realize: Women never do anything correctly, everything is just 'Play-Pretend' with them." Every day seems to reaffirm his teaching.

tl;dr: Psychology went to shit because of women in academia, as it is much easier to dismiss problems by saying everyone has valid reasons for acting they way they do instead of actually figuring out ways to solve their problems.

Don't talk to me like I'm mentally deficient. You aren't explaining yourself well and I'm not a mind reader.

the bizarre entitlement in this post...

Most of it is public record OP, they just don't tell you how or for what purpose they are using it.

Once you learn to recognize it, you see it all over the place.

OH and pro tip, they are using it to fuck up society and reduce population.

Reminder that the first nation to establish psychology at universities was nazi Germany and it's literally the most redpilled field to study.

Lets asume your claim is true. What interesting things did they find back then?

>Psychology
>Science
Pick one

>praising made up gods
>saying that on Sup Forums
Isn't it hypocritical to say "my being in the sky (which I can't prove) is better than yours" But I agree with you

>Yea fuck those people with mental illnesses or addictions. Let's just do some vodoo and exorcism.

You sound exactly like a high melanin person user.

>and it's literally the most redpilled field to study.

why?

I believe that he is implying that it would be useful to restrain contemporary psychology in order to give an advantage to the government and their operatives in order to manipulate the general populace.

Learn to infer information, you fucking mongrel.

>vodoo and exorcism.
This is literally what it is

>if we talk about stuff with a person you dont know then magically youll be cured
>if it doesn't work we will give you meds we don't even know what they do exactly but thats not my field so umm

At least psychologists get positive lasting results from people. Chemo is widely studied in the ((((scientific community))))) and it has an abysmal success rate.

Psychology is essentially about understanding people and/or giving people the tools to help themselves and adapt to their environment using therapies. It looks like meme speak on paper if you are ignorant to it but it the more you learn the more depth is uncovered.

Probably one of the most rewarding things I've studied because it's pretty much impossible to explain certain things to anyone who doesn't have at least a base knowledge. That's my definition of an academic subject.

>we arent all being controlled right now

Sjw ideology is based on the asumption that we are all the same. Psychology is able to prove that that's not the case. --> Sjw eternaly BTFO

There's nothing like ripping every argument these nu male faggots bring into shredds with actual knowledge about differential psychology and interindividual difference.

Duh. Jews want to corrupt the genetic stock of the white man and de-evolve us. It's caled a "soft-killing"

There's evidence of this everywhere. especially in music the move to the (((global standard)))of 440hz in the 1900s from the perfect 432hz, starting with (((Joseph Weber))) in 1917 America.

You can look at architecture as well. They're replacing our beauty with pure trash

no ti doesnt

It does jack shit

People end up doing what you perceive as positive that doesn't mean they get cured or anything

Anyone who changes his behaviour through it doesn't deserve to live cuase he is already dead

It all makes sense now.

>Louis C. K.
>Louis C.u K.
>Louis C.ucK.

You have no idea what a Psychologist is faggot.

What you mean is a Psychiatrist and a Psychotherapist.

>Isn't it hypocritical to say "my being in the sky (which I can't prove) is better than yours"
Depends on who you're talking with I suppose. I'm not involved with religion. I enjoy theology from a psychological and historical point of view but I don't subscribe to any of it.

You clearly misread my post

fucking retard

we're being destroyed physically as well as spiritually.

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It's not what I percieve as positive, it's what we work out together as being the most positive changes for them to make based on a combination of their goals&life experience and my knowledge and professional experience.

sounds plausible.

there are a lot of very interesting sociological and psychological experiments that have practical value.

this book is a good place to start. calhoun's rat experiment was pretty terrifying. putnam's study on diversity showed a direction social science could take that's Sup Forums approved.

this video goes over a few other ones I hadn't heard of before too:
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>millennials
too lazy to understand

Medicines are usually from psychiatry though.

At least in my country only them could prescribe meds

Partly true.

Psychology merged with occultic mysticism long ago

You fail to understand why so much of Psychology has become about Psychiatry, therapy, and talking about feelings.

It's marketable that way. We literally have professional advice-givers who just listen to your problems and tell you what to do, and maybe occasionally prescribe you some happy pills. And it's such a fucking racket, that these people are willing to get PHDs to do it.

No it literally

doesn't work

You want people to stop doing things you perceive illogical by doing something ilogical like talking to someone you don't know and trusting someone who gets paid to do so and would stop doing so if money ran out

At best all it does is to make the brain avoid the problem which is not a cure

all it does is that he can become a viable "wageslave" be it in the intellectual or financial aspect

Its fucking worthless trash

Thats what im saying

>If it doesnt work we will send you to a dude who will give you things no one understands so that we can do the same that didnt work

>if we talk about stuff with a person you dont know then magically youll be cured

Thats would be a psychotherapist

>if it doesn't work we will give you meds we don't even know what they do exactly but thats not my field so umm

That's a Psychiatrist and they dont know why most of the psycho meds work aswell. It's just theories.

Argentinian intellectuals

Dont believe it.

o really define psychologist and how would they differ from the others who are just theorizing made up garbage

Ever heard about Occam's Razor?

Also
>Psychology
>Science

Jesus look at that boludo

>stop doing things you perceive illogical by doing something ilogical like talking to someone

Diagnosis: Autism

I never understand you governmental conspiracy agents. The government can't even make trains run on time or win a war against a few dozen Vietnamese. What makes you think they'd be able to incorporate and maintain such a massive form of cover up?

That's not even mentioning the fact that every other country has its own psychologists so no one government can have a monopoly on it.

Why did you cut the rest?

Diagnosis: Shill

The real psychology is right there and it's called psychiatry.
With pills and lobotomy that is the real working psychology.

>Louis (K

How was the relationship with your mother in your early childhood user?

Was just watching a video of Louis Cuck in another tab just before seeing this thread.

Doesn't he get any points for constantly making jokes about killing jews and the holocaust?

MK Ultra was, at it's heart, Aldous Huxley. The goal was scientific management of the World on Malthusian and evolutionary principles (as imagined by a British blind faggot intellectual). Eugenics was it's earlier prototype, but after Jew Banker War 85 it was harder to push those ideas.

The US and Britain used JBW85 to steal the vast scientific databank of the Reich and it's smartest scientists. The space program and Nuclear capabilities being obvious results.

The Chemists of IG Farbin had a backlog of pharmaceuticals and US/Britain was champing at the bit to monetize that. What the CIA/MI6 wanted was control drugs, and they were quickly handed hundreds of potential substances. They also mailed these drugs out to most any official who would use them and report results if any. In the 1950's local police departments routinely used them to interogate suspects. All the universities had them, so it was just a matter of time till Psych departments began playing with them.

Gregory Bateson is a key figure, his wife Margaret Mead also. This guaranteed that the Social Sciences that wanted Government funding would play along, and it's only at this derivative layer that Pagan revivalists would be involved. Wicca isn't feminism, and was/is mostly lead by men.

More likely it's a result of social studies screaming bad words like racist and governments giving them money to solve the scary problems for political gain.
It's the epitome of government controlled systems.

Normal

Why did you make that question? Because its statistically plausible that people who do x express Y behaviour

but none of that proves why it happens which is what you want to fix with made up garbage since the truth is something you cannot know

Fucking worthless trash

This. Psychology needs to uncuck itself. Too many taboo subjects and sjw ideology creeping in.

Mind control as described by the MKUltra theorists doesn't work. The human mind is not a computer and people cannot be programmed.

The systematic abuse that is supposed to happen to MKUltra victims would be pointless because it would not produce a controllable person afterwards.

Mind control IS possible, but only on a group level. Humans are group thinkers and will adopt the habits and beliefs of their in-group. This happens all the time and is part of human nature.

In the Korean War Communists were able to convince American P.O.W's to defect and become Communist by this. They would act as friends to certain prisoners and turn the other P.O.W's against them. The inversion of their friendship/enemy experience also inverted their beliefs.

It is also possible to profoundly influence people in ways they do not realise, if you control the environment you can control their reaction. Sales is mostly about this. The whole area of selling and advertising is a massive collection of psychological tricks which influence behaviour.

This is also one of the main reasons our society is more female centric. Women are more easily persuaded than men and this makes them better consumers.

Do you ffeel uncomfortable talking about your mother user?

I sense some resistance in the snappy way your responding to this very reasonable question.

Psychology is pseudo science. The Real Psychology you speak of had never been productive or interesting. You are projecting bro.

>give answer
>Insert retarded generic question
Why do YOu refuse to answer to what i write?

afraid the thing that you dedicated your life to is fucking worthless?

Of course not cause you are a shill

well that makes you worthless too

I think your projecting your internalised anger on me user. It wasnt me who touched your weewee when you where little. It was your own mother.

But i see we are making progress. By bringing up these repressed memories from your unconcious you will finaly be able to overcome your trauma.

Im not angry you are the one who is projecting his understanding of anger towards me

you gettin trolld son

>don't fix the cause of your problems, just take this pill
Yeah, no.

I know you samefag im just using the opportunity to bash and demonstrate physoclogy is made up garbage

The human mind cannot be programmed?

What is classical and operant conditioning?

How dare you. I would never troll my patients. It would be highly unethical.

Ok i think we made some nice progress today but we're not there quite jet.That would be 500 euros.

See you next week same time same place. Goodby user.

Cognitive dissonance detected. if you had studied finance and economics you could do the same, talk to 0 sjw uni cucks, and actually have a job.

You didn't even try to come up with anything
>Implying you wont samefag under a different flag

And then work in finance.

No thanks. It's all gonna be taken over by machines and when that happens people will pay good money to heal their unsatisfying lifes.

Plz tell me where you see cognitive dissonance in my statements?

Conditioning builds habits but it does not control someone like programming a computer.

Toothpaste contains an irritant chemical which does nothing else but make your mouth tingle after brushing because it is conditioning you to brush your teeth and keep buying toothpaste. But this is just habit formation not mind control.

>Bringing up MKUltra
>Tying it to women in the work force/academia

Praise to you OP, 62 replies and no one even told you to I hope you'll be making more threads in the future. M/pol/GA

Your therapy session is over user. Please dont harass me in my free time.

Like i said next week same time same place.

>Keeps repeating the same
of course you know shill tactics wont work

thanks for correcting the record

My favorite new conspiracy theory: How do they create true believers in multiculturalism who disregard obvious signs of ideology's failure?

"True believers of multiculturalism are created by chefs of Bilderberg foundation who have in their kitchen spice rack compiled by MKUltra."

>How do they create true believers in multiculturalism who disregard obvious signs of ideology's failure?

What is propaganda?

>WE ARE DEVO
WE ARE DEVO

The psychoanalytic school and following schools, are mostly pure fraud. The sad story is, for the hole clinical psychology and psychiatry are not valide and reliable enough, to constitute a Part of evidence based medicine. We really don't understand anything deep, about how the brain works.

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