How old were you when you outgrew libertarianism?

How old were you when you outgrew libertarianism?

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I never was a libertarian as I never was that completely brain dead

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Nicole kidman

18. it was a brief phase. didn't even last a year. thanks ron paul

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8. Went straight to traditionalism

I AM AGELESS DEATHLESS PURE MEME ENERGY

I think like 14. Freshmen year anyways

I did not have a libertarian phase, thankfully

How old were you? And what are you now?

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I joined politics club in high school and was redpilled hard

Like 22, I still think it's a good starter ideology and I mostly agree with libertarian positions on things.

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13-14 I became a national socialist
was a liberal at about 11, became a libertarian because of the internet at about 12-13

Bigger government always helps the left in the long run. That's what keeps me coming back to libertarian positions.

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If trump wins I guarantee in 4 years Sup Forums will be Libertarian again once it all goes to hell. Sup Forums (and /new/, and the internet) are just contrarian.

Although there will always be Nazis, but that goes without saying.

honestly... this image threw me into the final stage. thank you...

Kari Lakomski

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>implying socialism isn't good
Why do you hate Americans?
Problems with welfare and free healthcare would be fixed without niggers.
Welfare now is a system low IQ niggers use to rob workers.
Obamacare is deeply flawed (because it was implemented by Obama) and again, abused by niggers.

>outgrowing Libertarianism
Name a better and REALISTIC (no nat soc kiddies) political ideology for the United States of America. I'll wait.

And ffs libertarianism can have borders

This. It's not anarchism. As long as you have a national identity and the foresight to have some laws at the national level while letting individual states determine their own fate, you're golden. We haven't been libertarians for 150 years. :'(

I used to be like you, until I actually researched National Socialism. Whatever, to answer your retarded question Fascism (not necessary socialist).

>Problems with welfare and free healthcare would be fixed without niggers.
so basically it's something that can't be fixed in america

You can never outgrow absolute personal freedom and the hope for a utopia.
You just realize its unobtainable.

my problem with libertarianism isn't
>lol u cant have roads though
>no borders hahah kek
>checkm8 dum lolbertarians
It's that we used to have libertarianism, but Jews took over the economy and government. Libertarianism has been tried, and our society today is the result of it. George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, they never expected Globalism. The 1780s is a different time from now.

How would the USA go about becoming "National Socialist?"

Dig up Hitler, throw out the Constitution, and hang the niggers? I want realistic solutions. Don't be a condescending faggot with no actual knowledge to contribute

>libertarianism

I've never met a "libertarian" who wasn't an actual cucked anarchist who would die within a day of getting the world they crave

National Socialism wouldn't hang niggers unless they were anti-american or refused to work

>have libertarian society without strict immigration laws
>various (((people))) flow in and change the government
>society is no longer libertarian
This ain't the fault of the ideology though.

nope, just send 'em all back to africa
a natsoc president you dumb fucking jew

This was always going to be the end result of it, just as a monarchy-mooney ist society if the singularity of capitalism.

The key is having checks to maintain the balance, but we let tptb fuck with them

It is because it allows for that to happen. Nazi Germany could never fall to die Juden if Hitler didn't declare war on the fucking world.

National Socialism comes first to cleanse the populace, Libertarianism comes after until we get lazy fill up with degenerates again.

>Rinse and Repeat

I still consider myself a libertarian on 90% of issues. If you're not mostly libertarian you're either a numale or a woman. Yes I'm voting for the don, no I don't smoke weed

It's why I dislike being called one. My friends seem to think that I'm a libertarian, because I think both parties have blatantly unconstitutional agendas, but I've never seen a libertarian who wasn't just an anarchist trying to fly the constitutional flag. Gary Johnson comes to mind as a laughable example.
You can't call borders "unconstitutional," when there's a fucking immigration law written into our constitution.

I believe that people should be given an opportunity to improve themselves, however we should not go out of our way to give them our belongings/income via welfare and/or programs.

I also believe that a strict culture is important for maintaining a sound society, however at the same time making sure to not legally censor disdained ideals. A good example would be 1920's america; degeneracy was not censored legally, yet if SJW's were to suddenly be forced into existence in that time period, the people would literally mob the shit out of them until they stopped, or went into hiding.

Thus, it would be much harder for the legal system to force anything onto the people that the majority did not approve of, and society would be maintained in a stable homeostasis, until of course someone tries to ideologically subjugate our colleges and educational system as the KGB had successfully in the 60's.

>13 year old national soliacist

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>Hitler didn't declare war on the fucking world.
Epic meme bro XD

I don't think the point of a (good) political ideology is to maintain its own existence- that sounds like USSR Communism. But yes, libertarianism with free movement of people=cucked ideology

Sounds beautiful, just throw out the Constitution every ~200 years and then replace it after 50 years of NatSoc

>Thus, it would be much harder for the legal system to force anything onto the people that the majority did not approve of, and society would be maintained in a stable homeostasis
This is perfect (fantasy) libertarianism- basically conservatism enforced by the people instead of the government.

Traditionalism is fucking retarded, and so are you. #3 is the full-realization of the red pill. #4 is just communism supplemented with identity politics.

Also, traditionalism is only as good as whichever cult of personality runs it. Hitler was a degenerate who got off to being pissed on and refused to eat meat. The art-school dropout who built the Nazi regime was the one who destroyed it under the delusion that he was more well-versed in military tactics than his own generals whose individual military experience each far exceeded his.

For that matter, what do you do with a frivolous king, like Louis XIV and Louis XVI who runs his empire into the ground spending vast amounts of money building palaces and monuments to himself while his enemies are expanding their territories?

Monarchy and dictatorships are fucktarded because no one man is good enough for the job. The darkest period in white civilization was under feudalism. Rome itself turned to shit after its republican government collapsed. For that matter, how do you explain North Korea's 60 years of abject failure under what basically amounts to monarchy? They embrace "Korean values," but they eat corn and rice out of pig shit just to survive.

i was an edgy kid
>inb4 >was

nice reading comprehension cuck

>*le conservatism is the adult grownup ideology meemay =]

I never grew out of Libertarianism, but I grew out of the liberty movement because it's full of fucking Democrat gommie retards who need to be physically removed, so to speak.

Also literally fuck the Liberterian party for nominating a Democrat, and fuck their voting base for shitting on Rand Paul for doing the smart thing and trying to run as a Republican. So sick and tired of the purists and the idealist NAP AnCaps

>#3 is the full realization of the red-pill
>hitler got off to being pissed on
>implying Rome didn't go to shit AFTER importing non-Romans who didn't share their culture and values

lel

When I put two and two together. Probably a couple of years ago.

>libertarian world sounds great
>two factors that ruin it
>1. open borders
>2. eventually two groups will be made, dumb people that breed and smart people that don't
>the dumb asses will outbreed the smart, and libertarian utopia will become authoritarian utopia

So basically we've already had a taste of their libertarianism and it's fucked us.

16 or 17 maybe. I realized I wasn't the Chosen One, and the world was a big place, which I would have to get by in. Not as some Chosen One surrounded by the idiot masses, but just as a person. Lucky enough, sure, for being born into a middle-class family in America, but not privileged or intelligent so much that everything would continue to be given me on a silver platter.

About the same age those retarded progressives gave up their silly religion.

>This is perfect (fantasy) libertarianism

It's definitely a stretch; it's just something I shat out in the span of a few minutes. If anything, I personally think that a mob running around beating people who don't follow their ideology would actually be really bad for society, and that truly things can only improve if everyone is just forced to at least genuinely considering everyone else's opinion.

for example, a group comes together to make a decision on whether to feed the poor.

Jane starts off by insisting that it's the cause of the capitalist pigs, however when forced to explain and provide proof, cannot, resulting in everyone laughing at her.

Bobby however follows up with data showing that the IQ of the poor tends to be extremely low, before also showing data that displays how feeding the poor will lead nowhere, as the shitty culture plus the shitty genetics of the poor tend to result in their children being just as useless, if not more resource demanding than the previous generation, as it is rather that these people are either too stupid to learn how to work, or they just refuse to because of bad genetics (genetically inherited mental illnesses, etc)

It is then followed up with a group discussion that concludes with the idea that while it is rather unethical to leave retarded people to die in the streets, nothing really can be done to fix it, lest the problems only continue to grow. The group concludes to help these poor people, if only on the agreement that they be given food and comfortable shelter, in exchange for them being permanently sterilized.

Twenty years later, the poor populace has shrunk immensely.

16 or 17

living in a liberal city with liberal parents

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Now i just sit comfy reading my Degrelle, Belloc, and stoic philosophers

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Adolf HItler, and all the socialists who preceded and succeeded him form a scathing indictment of traditionalism. If man has never existed, certainly a permanent source of national identity has. Consider that America is not even 250 years old, and most of us descend from limeys, paddies, krauts, frogs, and wops. Additionally, the concept of "American values" has changed every time a cult of personality, like Andrew Jackson, Dishonest Abe, Tubby Roosevelt, or Cripple Roosevelt became president. Nazism was a degenerate cult disguised as a restoration movement, as evidenced by his replacement of the Christian principles on which he founded Nazism and sold to his followers with degenerate Nazi mysticism based around false Gods.

Ironically, traditionalism looks a lot more like what sandniggers are trying to do with ISIS than Nazism. Loyalty to God and adherence to absolute principles forms an unchanging tradition that forms a place to which society can actually restore itself.

>"implying Rome didn't go to shit AFTER importing non-Romans who didn't share their culture and values"

Plebians had no say in governance. That's why they were plebians. Rome went to shit because of the indolence of kings, that is, unless you want to tell me they let Egyptians, Goths, and Vandals become senators.

i don't believe i ever fell under that category

They let them join the army, which in the far reaches was probably more influential than the "laws" passed in Rome.

If you're against the idea of National Socialism and against Traditionalism, what is it that you offer as a solution?

Almost 40. 42 now.

But, I wasted the first 25 years being a faggy liberal, then over a decade as a lolbertarian. Now, I just don't believe in any of this shit, but am voting Trump because I agree with way more of what he says than anyone else in the running. That, and I'm not quite ready yet to see how terrible things would get under that wicked twat Hillary.

I would say, around the age of 12.

tfw you skipped over 2 and 3

The only time, and I do mean only time, that socialism is good; is when you have an entirely homogeneous nation. One that has a dedicated, set in stone, mindset that is shared by each and every individual. It is like a house of cards, each card is the same. When you have a card, or several cards, who are not the same; its foundation becomes unstable. It leads to conflict and ultimately, ruin. It all comes crashing down, and nothing can stop it.

righton.net/2016/09/02/revolution-and-the-myth-of-white-socialism/

Summary.

>implying they solved the Jewish problem
We're talking about white socialism not (((White socialism™)))

Mostly white =/= Racially aware, homogenous society

~1.5 years older

I still like the libertarian approach though in contrast to gommunism

>New Zealand couldn't make it work post WW2, therefore it could never work.

I never was libertardian to begin with

That would be incorrect. Thanks for the summary.

I'm a Hoppe geolibertarian.

Oh yeah? Which elite political ideology does an edgy faggot like you follow?

HAHA. Fucking BTFO!

How old were you when you outgrew bootlicking natsoc?

How old were you when you started making reposts?

Why fascism over libertarianism? Libertarianism is fair, it lets people do whatever they want and either suffer or enjoy the consequences. No reason why a more libertarian society cannot have stricter penalties for violent crimes. The lazy leeching minorities problem would sort itself out with zero social welfare outside of charity and harsh penalties for crimes like theft, murder and rape.

>implying Pierce wasn't a traditionalist
WEW LAD

There's too many of them. (At least in the US)

If you turn off welfare, you will have HORDES pillaging the entire country.

Also, you need to solve the (((question))) because otherwise you will be dealing with unchecked cartels.

>libertarianism is unworkable idealism, UNTIL you have a pure homogenous society

That's why he's on the border of the two.
He just knew that America had to... dabble in step 3 before step 4 was plausible
>pic related

I think about 17 when I got my first job. As an owner of two mid size businesses now, I would greatly benefit from Randian "Utopia", it would destroy society and lead to a Marxist revolt. I take care of my workers not because I care but because it is pragmatic.

>Problems with welfare and free healthcare would be fixed without niggers.

Then why not give white taxpayers control over their money? They can set up welfare and healthcare for the poor on a voluntary basis, which will focus on helping those that deserve to be helped.

It's precisely reliance on government that causes money to be drained from the family and community, and spread in an alienating, individual-centric way that encourages abuse.

When I realized most people aren't out for their own best interest and will always be fucking worthless.

Also, its a retarded world view

>you will have HORDES pillaging the entire country

That's not too bad because everyone will have access to guns and can just mow the hordes down. The (((problem))) can be solved with death penalties for cartels that invade or destroy competitors properties. Molymeme has a good video on how market manipulation in a free market works out but not sure how true it is. Libertarian society basically forces a homogenous society because it's the most effective

Hahahaha I've never read anything that even remotely suggests that that is why Rome fell. Keep trying to rewrite shit to fit your retarded world view.

>Then why not give white taxpayers control over their money?

That would be brilliant because nobody would give their own money for that not even leftists.

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You can't mow down 1,000 people by yourself.
>also implying they don't have guns

The national guard had to be deployed in the 60s during the race riots, imagine how much worse that would be with our current demographics & full scale revolt.

I'm all for libertarianism, BUT it has to come after nationalism purifies the people.
>a new house won't stand if the foundation is rotten

Lebanon
>opinion discarded

Rome fell for lots of reasons, the mercenary army was one of them.

>You can't mow down 1,000 people by yourself.

Libertarian society wouldn't work with large scale threats like that unless they all had guns and would stand up and be counted. If the people were that cowardly then an authoritarian tyranny would suit them more.

>The national guard had to be deployed in the 60s during the race riots

If only they shot on sight. Would have stopped it fairly quick

Standing up and being counted is not enough, the enemy is too spread out. They would literally have to form Right Wing Death Squads to keep people safe.

We could have moved straight to libertarianism in the early 1900's when we were almost totally white, but now it's too late.

>You can't mow down 1,000 people by yourself.
That's what YOU think

Ask China. They've mowed down hundreds of thousands at once.

>Right Wing Death Squads

Why not, if those people can't live by the rules of a libertarian society then they have no place in it.

They weren't libertarians.

>You can't mow down 1,000 people by yourself.

You can't mow down 1,000 people by yourself.

>You can't mow down 1,000 people by yourself.

You can't mow down 1,000 people by yourself.

>You can't mow down 1,000 people by yourself.

You can't mow down 1,000 people by yourself.

>You can't mow down 1,000 people by yourself.

You can't mow down 1,000 people by yourself.

>You can't mow down 1,000 people by yourself.

You can't mow down 1,000 people by yourself.


So you have to be a libertarian to mow down people? I'm confused by your retardation.

I'd like to come in some pink right now

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This. Libertarianism is a first step. It's palatable to normies

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>Hurrr I used to be like you, therefore it only makes sense that believing in my ideology is the natural progression from believing in yours

Condescending faggot

>but I've never seen a libertarian who wasn't just an anarchist trying to fly the constitutional flag.
>Gary Johnson comes to mind as a laughable example.

How the fuck did you get that impression from Gary Johnson? Pretty sure you have that all wrong, user. Gary Johnson is a big gov Democrat-lite flying the constitutional flag.