What are chances of a US Navy captain going rogue after a massive terrorist attack on America ? Would he be able to launch a nuclear strike on Mecca even if no country is clearly involved in a terrorist attack ?
What are chances of a US Navy captain going rogue after a massive terrorist attack on America...
No, it's impossible even for a rogue president.
Like Hillary
Maybe, it's just a matter of enough failing safe guards in the system. Obviously if enough people in his command supported the strike, then yes, it could happen
Don't the UK have something like a last order from the PM to the sub's captains ? If so, it means they are able to launch missiles even without a clear order.
I'm sure the DoD propaganda want us to believe there is too much failsafe for this to happen.
Up until i think 97. It would of been theoretically possible for a sub captain, if he was able to convince his crew to go along with him to launch nukes without orders. British subs still retain the ability but outside of that it's impossible without figuring out a way to break 2 man rule and descending chain of orders.
>what are the chances
Zero. All the senior command staff are set up to stop each other out if regulations are not followed precisely. The incentives for that are massive; if your commander tried to do something illegal with a warhead, the reward to you for stopping him would be career making. You could retire and become a senator, you'd be a made man. The nuclear arsenal is more tightly controlled than people comprehend. It's hard for anyone in our government to unilaterally and pre-emptively use it, even the president.
It depends on whether the launch codes are sill just a string of zeros on some nukes. I wouldn't be surprised, it makes perfect sense to ensure the fuckers will get launched.
cs.columbia.edu
We have sensible Aussie blokes in charge of our missiles: defence.gov.au
>career making
career would be the least of your worries after a terrorist apocalypse
>defence.gov.au
>A member of a large, culturally diverse (mudslime) extended family, and involved in many community and school mentoring programs, Captain Shindy is determined to motivate and inspire others, and is passionate about encouraging more Muslims to think about the ADF and the
>school mentoring programs
What could possibly go wrong?
God dammit australia
Shhhhhh. They're not supposed to know we have them M8
that system is designed so that no single person could do that. Naval captains don't have launch codes, etc. etc.
Would he be able to? Yes, provided he could convince all other people on the sub/ship to do their parts. Would he be allowed to? No.
Can you imagine a confrontation with Indonesia?
"- Captain Shindy, prepare to fire the missiles!"
"- Should I aim for Sydney or Brisbane?"
This is terrifying. There's no way someone like that would destroy their ethnic homeland. I know there is nothing in this world that would make me nuke the British.
arent there nuclear armed subs out in the depths than can give the order whenever they want?
Same for me.
I would never touch the anglosphere, except for Canada.
Yes, that's the French doctrine, and that's the entire point. I.e. if they take out the capital and the entire chain of command, as part of the deterrence aspect some subs have authority to initiative action.
French nuclear doctrine is actually fairly aggressive. They allow preemptive strikes, including against non-nuclear states.
And they have a policy to aim at everything. They even used to aim at Western countries back in De Gaulle's time, but that has changed with the Cold war.
They also have many tactical nukes from all sizes, to use in regular conflicts.
Do sub commanders, French or others, have the ability to target their nukes or just the ability to launch them at a predetermined set of targets?
The UK has orders to follow the US chain of command.
Israel is the one with the samson protocol, named after that biblical figure who brought down a tower killing himself in the process.
You would think (((our greatest ally))) would have orders similar to the UK, but nope.
I can understand that. Unlike us Anglos the French are ultimately alone so must be prepared for "anyone" to turn on them
KEK
fuck this """country"""
Obama purged all Generals who had balls. So not likely at all.
en.m.wikipedia.org
>According to Peter Hennessy's book The Secret State: Whitehall and the Cold War, 1945 to 1970, the process by which a Vanguard-class submarine commander would determine if the British government continues to function includes, amongst other checks, establishing whether BBC Radio 4 continues broadcasting.[8]
>In 1983, the procedure for Polaris submarines was to open the envelopes if there was an evident nuclear attack, or if all UK naval broadcasts had ceased for four hours.[9]
So if BBC radio 4 and the Royal Navy stop broadcasting, and some other things the captains could open the letters and launch the nukes, providing the PM's letters say so.
Not sure how true it is but I remember hearing somewhere that some instructions could include the crew and ship giving themselves to a friendly nuclear nation (France or USA), sailing to Australia and giving the crew and ship to aid them, or for the caption to use their own judgement
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