Isn't it too late to replace Hillary? Deadline to get on the ballot in most states has already long passed

Isn't it too late to replace Hillary? Deadline to get on the ballot in most states has already long passed...

what can they possibly be considering?

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howmanyofme.com/people/Hillary_Clinton/
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No, it's not too late.

The deadlines to get on the ballot you're referring to are as an independent or third party candidate. A candidate dropping out is a different case, and one Secretaries of State are likely to accommodate. Even if some chose not to, and assuming any lawsuits that would spawn are unsuccessful, as the real candidates are the electors people could vote for Hillary's ballot-line with the understanding that those electors would cast their votes for whoever the dems offer as a replacement.

hmm, sounds like you're right

>On the other side, the Democratic Party's charter and bylaws stipulate that the Democratic National Committee has responsibility for filling vacancies in the nomination for president and vice president. The rules say that "a special meeting to fill a vacancy on the National ticket shall be held on the call of the Chairperson, who shall set the date for such meeting" in accordance with procedural rules.

cnbc.com/2016/08/03/what-happens-if-a-candidate-say-donald-trump-drops-out-of-the-presidential-race.html

People voted for electors, and alternate electors. They can do whatever they want.

>that those electors would cast their votes for whoever the dems offer as a replacement.

So called democracy when party chooses the candidate after votes have been cast.. jebus ristus..

Well that's assuming the party chooses a replacement in the weeks between election day and the electoral college vote, which isn't the scenario being considered. We're talking about whether the DNC will drop Hillary before election day, though it's doubtful.

Wrong. First of all, parties are private organizations, they don't override state law in regards to ballot registration deadlines. Second, what you're talking about with the electors is only valid in 21 states, in the rest the electors are legally required to vote with the popular vote, even if that means giving a dead or dropped out candidate votes. Third, pretending for a second that your unbound elector theory was legal, there is no way in hell the vast majority of the states would accept a president that nobody voted for and was simply "chosen" by the electorate.

>First of all, parties are private organizations, they don't override state law in regards to ballot registration deadlines.
They are, and they don't, but SOSs and the courts have historically granted thew two largest parties wide leeway. See this article, about a current attempt to keep Trump off the Minnesota ballot, for some past examples of parties getting accomodation after missing deadlines:
politicsinminnesota.com/2016/09/experts-trump-wont-get-bumped-off-ballot/

>Second, what you're talking about with the electors is only valid in 21 states, in the rest the electors are legally required to vote with the popular vote, even if that means giving a dead or dropped out candidate votes.
Assuming states have the legal right to compel electors using these laws - so far only the states ability to compel them to pledge to vote for the winner has been held up, it hasn't been tested whether the laws in place to punish faithless electors are valid. It's also assuming that states are going to attempt to enforce laws intended to prevent faithless electors in a case they weren't intended for.
>there is no way in hell the vast majority of the states would accept a president that nobody voted for and was simply "chosen" by the electorate.
We've had presidents with shitty mandates before, but even if that were so, it would be immaterial to the discussion of how the process would play out, only to what comes next. In the case of a dead president elect, that means the VP elect takes the oath in January. For a replacement, none of this has really been tested yet, but the judges are likely to rule in favor of the people that appointed them.

I keep asking this to no response, but in the case of death of the nominee, would it be legal if Michelle Obama changed her name to Hillary Rodham Clinton "as a tribute" and just ran in her place with her name?

You wouldn't score any points for having the same name as a nominee, just like you're a legally separate person from anyone with your name right now, though it might create confusion now and then.

If they want all their skeletons ran into the public eye then I welcome them to attempt running for President.
None will remain when Trump takes office.

Thing about Democrats is they always have skeletons.

To which legal precedents are you referring?

It's up to her not the DNC. She has to give up the nomination. She'll die before she does that.

So what the fuck happens if she steps down? Would the DNC really let Bernie step up? Would they push for Biden?

Trump wins.

Its not too late to replace her. The states would be willing to admit a change to the ballot if they had to. Any state that didnt comply would be rigtly accused of voter fraud.

She/the DNC would rather let her die before admitting that Trump's "rumors" were true all along.

Bullshit. Hillary was specifically selected in the primaries. She is who the people chose for the Democratic party. They cannot just arbitrarily throw someone up in her place without another primary.

Wouldn't Bernie be worse for Trump than Hillary? We want her to stay in and stay sick.

The precedent that no one's ever assumed office by having the same name as the actual nominee.

A major party has never agreed and actively supported one person who assumed the name, though.

howmanyofme.com/people/Hillary_Clinton/
>1 person named Hillary Clinton

>They cannot just arbitrarily throw someone up in her place without another primary.
They are governed by their own rules as to whether they can or they can't. The nomination to the democratic party's nomination occurred under the rules of the Democratic Party, which same rules reserve to the DNC the right to fille a vacancy in the nominees:
s3.amazonaws.com/uploads.democrats.org/Downloads/DNC_Charter__Bylaws_9.17.15.pdf
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She killed them all

Thats why they fucking have a vice president on the ticket. She dies, hes the nominee

You're right, they haven't. They haven't had to and it sounds like a pretty dumb idea. If it's a problem to substitute a nominee it's still going to be a problem that this is person with the same name isn't the same one that resides at the listed address on their forms, has the correct date of birth and is the one that actually signed the forms.

This, they can do whatever the fuck they want as long as Hillary cooperates and willfully steps down.

I love it. This election is gold

Only if the ticket's already been confirmed by the electoral college, then the vice president elect takes the presidency in January. The DNC isn't bound to choose the VP nominee, although it would seem reasonable to.

>Would the DNC really let Bernie step up?
bernie re-registered as an independent and biden is quitting politics since his son's death affected him so much

DNC chose the candidate BEFORE the votes were cast.

>son's dying wish is his dad doesn't let his death stop him from running
>doesn't run because of his son's death
Fuck.

>34 people with my name
Fug

There can be only one.

this cunt aint so bad after all

Is there anyone with actual knowledge on the topic? I heard literally everything from Kaine takes her spot to Obama can postpone the election by one year.

>She is who the people chose for the Democratic party

She will be replaced by JEB!

Nope, states have passed Sore Loser Laws when it comes to voting.

are newspapers everywhere shilling the pneumonia-story? over here, the consensus is that (quote) "her health used to be a concern for conspiracy theorists, but now it is clear that she actually suffers from pneumonia." (= an infection = temporary).

if this *is* the story worldwide in bigger papers and news stations, just how controlled is the media?

Can't wait for cancer-websites like Cracked to write articles like "5 reasons why you shouldn't believe in right-wing conspiracy about Hillary Clinton's health" or "Top 10 Democrtic candidates who may still save the day."

There's no precedent for postponing a presidential election, we even had one on schedule during the Civil war, but years back when they were researching a lot of scenarios in the context of hypothetical terrorism it was speculated Congress had the authority to postpone an election, and could do so by statute.
fas.org/sgp/crs/RL32471.pdf
Obama doesn't have any authority to do so, but some people have been raising scares for the last year that he might attempt to postpone it with something like martial law or an executive order.

Kaine takes her spot automatically in the case that she die or becomes disqualified after they win the electoral college vote. He doesn't get any automatic preference if they want to make a swap before election day.

"Sore loser laws" refer to preventing a primary loser from running as an independent or under a different party label. They're not relevant here, even if the DNC were to replace her with Sanders.

Pneumonia is a serious condition in itself and can cause death but I would hope most people can see through it as a symptom of some greater underlaying illness.

>15 people with my full name
>9,700 with my first

I'm a special fucking snowflake

That's why they'll auto lose if they choose someone else. Because no matter who they choose there will be a huge negative reaction.
DNC hates Bernie so they don't want him in either.
Don't choose Bernie though, and they auto lose any Bernie supporters that even were going to vote Hillary.

They're in a lose-lose-lose situation here, because if Hillary remains, it's very likely this sickness thing will be a huge talking point for the rest of the election, on top of possibly fucking dying or being hospitalized and not being able to go on the campaign trail.

Could you even IMAGINE Hillary being escorted off stage during one of the debates?

No. Who you vote for is indendent of the ballot choices. You vote for representives who are suppose to represent you. In which case these people can then vote for whom they want to. They tend to vote for whomever the ballot choice was but they have the power to decide ultimately. Your vote isn't 100% and there are measures in place just in case a party has to do something like this.

If you vote for Hillary, this will tell the representive of your district to then cast a vote for the democrat party canidate whomever it may be. This is the electrorial college at work.

If she is replaced Biden will be taking her place. He's qualified, willing and would likely be the best pick to take the challenge this late into the election.

He would of course be at a disadvantage, but contrary to Sup Forums, Obama is a highly regarded president, especially with Dems, and having his VP running would be a boon to their parties ticket. He's a danger to Trump, so my advice would be to start digging.

>1 person with my name

I can see her being in a chair for the debates. If Trump complains they can say he is not a gentleman (woman card).

Thanks mate

Biden has suffered a lot. Libcuck or not, I feel for the man.

that just tells you how serious her actual condition really is. she's probably going to kick the bucket in a matter of weeks to months.

my question was if there are very big newspapers/tv-stations/radio somewhere that actually still question very obvious lies.

it doesn't get much more transparent than "oh yeah she has pneumonia", when the hag

a) has had a cough for at least half a year
b) fleed to a private apartement instead of just going to the hospital (==> no official records, she's learning!)
c) the alleged diagnosis doesn't cover her other symptoms (seizures, disorientation etc.)

this is one of the most insultingly obvious media lies i have ever seen, and i'm just wondering how global the shilling is. do papers everywhere just eat up what news agencies present them without ANY questioning whatsoever?

Remnber to watch sick Hillary Clinton video try get them trending youtube.

youtu.be/n_8AO5MDBEw


youtu.be/iPoFz7w4T1E

My understanding is that the ballots can still be redone at this stage. Anything under a month and it's a reasonable (albeit costly) venture.

If the candidate drops out at the last moment their replacement can run under their name for ballot purposes.

The election cannot be delayed, however.

>no hillary
>no bernie
>yfw O'Malley is the nominee in October

Uh wouldn't it be bad if they replace her with literally almost anyone else known or unknown?
I mean Trump only really had a chance to win against her.
Is this all part of the plan

She'll walk out unescorted, she might even stand for the two hours or at least lean on the podium, but I guarantee she'd have another coughing fit or some other episode on one of the three nights.

Nope, you are giving the electorate way too much credit. I don't think they'd go with an unknown as it wouldn't be strategically viable, so lets say they go with Joe Biden and keep Kaine as the VP. Joe has name recognition, a campaign staff that includes the president, and the Clinton's, and will already have a good idea of his campaigns strategy.

There would be a short term disadvantage, but it will be very short term. If this happened over the course of the next week, Joe would still make the first debate.

This is actually bad, in my opinion, because Joe has a distinct advantage both Trump and Hillary don't. He doesn't have any real dirt yet, and probably doesn't have anything comparable to Trump or Hillary. As I said earlier, it's time to start digging on Joe.

I think he meant bad for Trump. Any dem candidate other than Hillary.

Just as an aside, are there going to be any anons who will put together a jpg showing the changing, hypocritical narrative throughout the course of the day? It would be really telling to have an image of headlines going from "Just a trip!" to "just a faint!" to "OK just pneumonia!" all coming from the same day.

Well, if that's the case, I don't agree. You can't throw some random nobody in there because A) It would be career sacrifice, you basically know you'll never be worth talking about again and B) it won't work.

The people of the US want to "know" their candidates, and see them as real people. Makes you wonder why they chose Hillary, but she's been in the public eye since the 70's.

>I mean Trump only really had a chance to win against her.
>Is this all part of the plan
shut it down...?

ATTENTION: CTR IS FREAKING THE FUCK OUT BECAUSE OF THE RECENT KKKILLARY KKKLINTON KKKAMPAIGN KKKATASTROPHE.

SHILLS ARE DESPERATELY SPAMMING POL WITH ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING TO DISTRACT FROM THE KKKILLARY KKKLINTON BODY KKKOUNT.

C T R
FUCKING
SUICIDAL

> He doesn't have any real dirt yet

Yeah, the girls he gropes are pretty clean.

>Trumpfag crying about others changing the narrative

Thats fucking rich

>Shes dying
>SHE HAS PARKINSON'S
>SHE IS BEING INJECTED!!!

Obama can postpone the election and remain president until the DNC can get a new candidate and the paperwork ready.

What if she gave pneumonia to that kid?

She had to do that fucking photo-op BEFORE telling the world she had pneumonia.

this all they have and she happens to be playing right into their hands... even her recent "deplorable" - a wholly factual statement - was exactly what drumpftards need and want -- conflict and confrontation

this shit's truly as reality show as democracy has gotten and drumpf will win in any such lowbrow forum

Everyone knows Joe is creepy, but assuming he's not raping them being creepy isn't that bad. Hillary has the Clinton Foundation, the rape case, DNC hacks, etc. Trump won't release his taxes, and we all have to know it's because there is something in there he doesn't want us to see, multiple affairs, and allegations of rape, albeit mostly unsubstantiated and worthless (It hasn't been brought up much because Bill would be in the sights at that point.)

Biden smells little girls hair and is a little too handsy.

But that's all true at the same time.

>gave pneumonia to that kid
>contagious pneumonia

please, dullard burger... FFS, just do it...

She might have done that, or maybe they're telling us partial truth. She has pneumonia... a type of pneumonia only people with Parkinson's get and is non-transferable.

>24 people

>jews winning a battle
nope. It's our time to win. you're fucking finished. Hillary is dead and the Democrats won't have a dog in the race.

It's over. You'll have to manipulate Gary, dat boy Johnson. TOP KEK

They're going to bring back Bernie.

They realized far too late that in the long run, HIllary's e-mail scandals, the probing into the Clinton Foundation, and her continuously degrading health, would only set her up for failure against Trump.

Bernie is older than Hillary, and he's in far better health. Not only that, but he could easily win back not only his former supporters that may have jumped ship to Trump, but all of HIllary's as well.

no doubt berniefags would still vote for him even after he sold them out but you would think bernie would be the last person the dnc want as a president after they fucked him

Maybe they would play it off as an apology.

"Hey, we're really sorry for fucking you, please now be the primary Democratic Presidential candidate you were meant to be."

I honestly can't think of anyone else they would pick. Plus, if Hillary drops out, doesn't that also fuck over Time Kaine? Would they maybe put him as primary candidate since he was chosen to be the VP?

>1

Oh fuck

He's also old as fuck and looks barely alive