Anyone done much research into the Kali Yuga, and the theory that our current society is inside it?
Do you believe we are living in the Kali Yuga?
Kali Yuga
Chase Peterson
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Easton Cook
“When society reaches a stage in which property confers rank; in which wealth becomes the only source of virtue ... then we are in Kali Yuga, the Dark Age”
~Vishnu Puran
We pretty much are.
Benjamin Thomas
I did hang around with hari Krishnas for a bit when I first got kicked out of my house. I was 17 so it's a few years ago now.
I think the gist of what they told me is that we live in an imperfect age and we don't live long enough to be able to change ourselves through meditation. In the past people would live hundreds of years. Now only living about 80 doesn't give you long enough to perfect a zen mindset, hence why they just chantry Rosemary beads and sing songs.
Dominic Butler
Yes, OP, I reasearched a lot into it. I'm a hinduism geek, have read many sacred hindu texts and some modern interpretations of ancient texts and calendars.
AMA
(no I'm not trolling)
Oliver Ross
Are you a fan of Evola?
Are you white?
John Reyes
What a beautiful image you posted!
And what you said makes sense to me.
Noah Sanders
Not a "fan" of Evola but I'm a little familiar with his work.
Yes, I'm white, if you really must ask.
Please ask stuff related to hinduism or cyclical time.
Brody Jackson
has anyone got any good videos that explain the theory? always wanted to learn more
Ryan Miller
Also Evola is entry-level.
If you want to read on the same subject but by a much better author and orientalist, read this:
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Jayden Hall
i have a question, it's a bit broad but effectively boils down to.
is there anything you think is important for us to know insofar as it would help us actively direct our lives given the circumstances?
Jordan Bailey
oh good, i knew I was going to have to read Guenon at some point, I just didn't know which
Adrian Robinson
I'm not a guru. I'm not gonna tell you do this or don't do that.
I'm a scientific mind. I don't "beleive" in hinduism, but I'm interested in how science confirms some of its aspects, namely, the hypothesis of cyclical time and intelligent design.
Dylan White
I read that it ended in 1899?
Parker Walker
Maybe not the best book to start with but it's the one that talks about the "age shift".
I'd recommend starting with "the crisis of the modern world" so you can get used to his themes, ideas and vocabulary.
Thomas Green
i'm not saying you'd have to profess something to be true, but on balance what would a commonsense approach to life at the very least keep in mind?
i'm not asking for you to direct me, but to perhaps note something of importance that would have the potential to influence me to direct my own life.
as it happens, the crisis of the modern world was already on my wishlist.
Samuel Brooks
if there is one thing I could advise you it's specifically not to "beleive". There's no point in beleving anymore, that's what men of the old age did.
Try to understand, analyse, and become part of a "group consciousness", it's a more sane, reasonnable and actual behaviour.
Daniel Taylor
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Mason Sanchez
to be fair i'm already doing that, but hey, i asked a very broad question, you gave me a very broad answer, don't know what else i was expecting really
Leo Jones
Hindus have a beautiful cultural tradition, being aryan and all.
If you're into Kali Yuga stuff, dont skip over the Kalki prophecies:
"When the practices taught in the Vedas (holy books) and institutes of law have nearly ceased, and the close of the Kali age shall be nigh, a portion of that divine being who exists of His own spiritual nature, and who is the beginning and end, and who comprehends all things, shall descend upon earth. He will be born in the family of Vishnuyasha, an eminent brahmana of Shambhala village, as Kalki, endowed with eight superhuman faculties, when the eight suns (represented by 8 solar deities or Vasu who lord over Dhanishta Nakshatra) will together shine over the sky. By His irresistible might he will destroy all the mlecchas (Barbarians) and thieves, and all whose minds are devoted to iniquity. He will reestablish righteousness upon earth, and the minds of those who live at the end of the Kali age shall be awakened, and shall be as clear as crystal. The men who are thus changed by virtue of that peculiar time shall be as the seeds of human beings, and shall give birth to a race who will follow the laws of the Krita age or Satya Yuga, the age of purity. As it is said, 'When the sun and moon, and the lunar asterism Tishya, and the planet Jupiter, are in one mansion, the Krita age shall return."
John Thomas
Nope, it didn't.
Landon Wright
Please note that "Kalki" is a metaphor for the phenomenons that will happen in the transitionnal period between this age and the next (2025 to 2325), not an actual person.
Kalki is the personnification of the cleansing phenomenons that will destroy our current civilization and leave place for the next one.
Ancient texts hint at "Kalki" being a comet that will graze the earth.
Joseph Sullivan
it ends in 2025. Don't expect anything special to happen though.
Then there is a transitional period of about 300 years, during which the current world will slowly collapse due to numerous factors, human, social, natural, etc. After 2325 the people that are left will usher the new age, which will be comparably better than this one.
Camden Cook
Can't remember the exact book, but lots people elsewhere agree with the date..
Camden Rivera
are you sure kalki as a comet holds any more truth than kalki as a person though?
how does a literal comet cleanse our civilization of its ills?
wouldn't it be more likely that kalki is representative of the phenomena evident in our communities in the aftermath of the decline of civilization, and change in the zeitgeist, attitudes and worldviews of people?
Dominic Gomez
Kalki is definitely a human person who commands a human army and cleanses the wicked and the degenerate and decadent, especially the wicked rulers.
There might be comets and what not destroying entire nations and continents, him being an avatar of a divine being, but there will also have to be an army that will purify those who manage to escape the divine WMDs.
Carson Ward
It ends in 2025.
Read this article for proof: bibhudevmisra.com
I'd advise to read the comment section to as the author answers good questions.
Cameron Ward
"Kalki" is a personification of the sum of phenomenons that will destroy the current, corrupt age and instigate a new, better one.
It is neither a person, nor technically a comet, it is a metaphor.
However, many ancient texts hint at the culmination of those phenomenons being a comet grazing the earth, and refer to the comet as "Kalki".
Jeremiah Clark
There are multiple universes and these universes goes into a cycle of destruction and reconstruction.
Death is the ultimate truth, no one can escape it, not the universe, not the humans and not even the gods.
Each cycle of Universe has four stages Satya Yuga, Treta Yuga, Dwapar Yuga and Kali Yuga.
Each Yuga has its specific time.
You can't change it, your generations can't stop it. You can know about it, read about it but there is nothing you will do that will change your or your generations outcome.
Actually that's a false date.
According to Astronomy calculating the positions of sun and other stars wrt Earth the starting date of Kaliyuga is midnight on 18 February 3102 BCE. The span of Kali yuga is 432,000 years. Its a long way to go, we are living in the protected phase of Kali yuga which is going to expire soon and things will be batshit crazy then.
Benjamin Wilson
oh cool, you worded what i was trying to say better than i did and clarified the role the purported comet would play, ie only circumstantial.
sounds pretty good to me anyway. i guess, less than a decade to go to prep better pull my socks up.
Juan Ortiz
>do you believe in dothead mysticism Sup Forums ?
Fuck off with you weak ass Evola shit.
Isaac Moore
What happens after you die, in your opinion?
Jeremiah Thompson
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The central text of hinduism speaks a different language. Your interpretation of Kalki being a comet is decadent modernist drivel, part of the spirit of evil that permeates the Kali Yuga.
Kalki is a real leader/king, the incarnation/avatar of a god, and he will lead an army into battle to slaughter the wicked and decadent.
James Reyes
Kalki is definetely not a person, it is a metaphor.
You have an innocent and popular view of hinduism. Just like most people beleive that "karma" means if you do bad thing you will have a bad reincarnation but it doens't mean that.
Hinduism doesn't have "litteral" gods, it is a poetic glorification of the functions of the universe. This was very clear in the past but, mostly because people lost access to knowledge after the last age shift, it became less clear now.
If you beleive that vishnu, shiva and brahma, are tall blue beings living somehwere in the sky, you're deluded.
Nathan Bailey
you won't live to see the changes, probably.
It will take three centuries for the new age to come.
Levi Parker
well put. Vikernes and others like him similarly view pre-christian european beliefs in this manner, that they are poetic metaphor intended to help people grasp the concept and focus their mind.
oh sure i understand it will take a long time for humanity to picks its ass off the floor, but it doesn't mean i can't at least do something with my life in aid of the process.
Aiden Barnes
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Ryan Reed
Listen, we can talk like this all day.
You read a few texts, or maybe only wikipedia exceprts, and took them litterally.
They are not meant to be taken litterally. They are poetic personifications.
You think that the "evil" of the kali yuga is making me doubt that these being are human-shaped, I know that the loss of knowledge due to the last age shift and your very superficial understanding of hinduism leads you to take these things litterally. Your understanding is that of a child.
Hinduism is and has always been to things: the science developped by the Hindu people regarding the functionning of the universe, and the poetic transfiguration of it to explain it to the common people.
Jose Thompson
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Josiah Long
Typical modernist liberal trick to deter people from taking religious texts seriously. Not surprising, coming from a 'secular' frenchfag.
I take these texts quite literally and when Kalki appears I will join his army and assist him in the slaughter of all godless degenerates.
Cameron Bennett
In my opinion, idk and idc what happens when we die.
According to Hinduism, all of this is a illusion, the whole universes are an illusions created to distract the souls. All of which goes in cycle, we die and we are born again. As human or as any other living creature. The souls neither increase of decrease in number. If one population is rising (example Humans) the other is getting significantly reducing (example Trees). We experience both hell or heaven on Earth based on our deeds of previous and current birth (Karma). The only way to get out of this never ending cycle is getting enlightenment.
Levi Sanchez
>Typical modernist liberal trick to deter people from taking religious texts seriously.
is precisely how i would describe literalism.
seriously, can you read ANY historic religious text and take it literally?
you don't understand how readily our forbears used extended metaphor as a tool for knowledge and engagement.
the easiest form of christianity for example, to dismiss, is biblical literalism, because of how fucking outlandish so many of its assertions then become.
if you can convince people that our ancestors literally thought and believed those things, you blind people to the subtext and make it a lot easier to dismiss.
fuckin hypocrite.
Easton Perez
You're a fool.
Anyway, if you are waiting for a blue skinned warlord to lead you into battle, you're not a dangerous fool, so it really doesn't matter.
Brody Thompson
Sup Forumss favourite philosopher Julius Evola also wrote a lot about Kali Yuga.
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The Bhagavata Purana states:
At the end of Kali Yuga, when there exist no topics on the subject of God, even at the residences of so-called saints and respectable gentlemen, and when the power of government is transferred to the hands of ministers elected from the evil men, and when nothing is known of the techniques of sacrifice, even by word, at that time the Lord will appear as the supreme chastiser.
—Bhagavata Purana, 2.7.38
Liam Collins
It goes on to foretell his arrival:
The ascetic prince, Lord Kalki, the Lord of the Universe, will mount His swift white horse Devadatta and, sword in hand, travel over the earth exhibiting His eight mystic opulences and eight special qualities of Godhead. Displaying His unequaled effulgence and riding with great speed, He will kill the millions of those thieves who have dared dress as kings.
—Bhagavata Purana, 12.2.19-20
Note the similarities with the white rider in the Book of Revelation here
Matthew Nelson
The Vishnu Purana also explains:
When the practices taught in the Vedas and institutes of law have nearly ceased, and the close of the Kali age shall be nigh, a portion of that divine being who exists of His own spiritual nature, and who is the beginning and end, and who comprehends all things, shall descend upon earth. He will be born in the family of Vishnuyasha, an eminent brahmana of Shambhala village, as Kalki, endowed with eight superhuman faculties, when the eight suns (represented by 8 solar deities or Vasu who lord over Dhanishta Nakshatra) will together shine over the sky. By His irresistible might he will destroy all the mlecchas (Barbarians) and thieves, and all whose minds are devoted to iniquity. He will reestablish righteousness upon earth, and the minds of those who live at the end of the Kali age shall be awakened, and shall be as clear as crystal. The men who are thus changed by virtue of that peculiar time shall be as the seeds of human beings, and shall give birth to a race who will follow the laws of the Krita age or Satya Yuga, the age of purity. As it is said, 'When the sun and moon, and the lunar asterism Tishya, and the planet Jupiter, are in one mansion, the Krita age shall return.
—Vishnu Purana, Book Four, Chapter 24
Kalki as Vajimukha (horse-faced).
The Padma Purana describes that Kalki will end the age of Kali and kill all mlecchas. He will gather all brahmanas and propound the highest truth, bringing back the ways of dharma that have been lost, and removing the prolonged hunger of the Brahmin. Kalki will defy oppression and be a banner of victory for the world.
Charles Ortiz
We live in a dark age but not in Kali Yuga, it's bullshit. Man create his destiny himself.
Jayden Thompson
Hindus are a bunch of faggots
Isaiah Martinez
Dasavatara Stotra, 10th sloka:
“O Kesava, O Hari, who have assumed the form of Kalki!
You appear like a comet and carry a terrifying sword for bringing about the annihilation of the wicked barbarian men at the end of the Kali-yuga.”
I do not think that these are metaphorical descriptions. They may be physically describing the manner in which Kalki will appear. A comet, with its two tails, very closely resembles the image of a person on horseback holding a raised up sword. A comet can get gravitationally disrupted on close approach to the earth, resulting in a rain of meteor fragments which can cause great devastation. Many of the past cataclysms on the earth, including some of the previous mass extinction events, the end of the ice age etc. are believed to have been caused by meteor impacts from comets.
Kalki is also supposed to come from Shambhala. In Hindu-Buddhist lore Shambhala is an invisible, ideal kingdom located somewhere in the cosmos, populated by superhumans. It has nothing to do with the earth. The names etc. assigned to Kalki does not imply that Kalki has to be mortal.
Kevin Brooks
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Colton Morales
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Michael King
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