Omegle thread

Get in here lads

I just made a lefty ragequit on omegle

I will dump my chat now

You're now chatting with a random stranger. Say hi!
Question to discuss:
I think America should go back to isolationism. Do you agree or should America put there noses in everything?

Stranger: This question is terrible and you should feel terrible for writing it.

Stranger: actually

Stranger: its not that bad of a question

You: This isn't a bad question actually

Stranger: yeah

Stranger: I am against isolationism and military intervention

You: although should be *their, OP you reprobate

Stranger: but pretending we aren't part of a global situation is stupid

You: Depends what you mean really

You: America should definitely butt out of foreign affairs more, esp in middle east

You: It always comes back to bite them

Stranger: as I said, military intervention is a waste of lives

You: They fund one side, they turn out to be terrorists, they fund another to destroy the first and so on

Stranger: yep

Stranger: but global trade is important as hell

Stranger: and the economy would collapse without it

You: I mean, they actually funded Bin Laden, I've seen newspaper clippings praising him as some sort of freedom fighter

You: Of course

Stranger: yeah.

You: Trade is not intervention though

Stranger: trade is intervention, economic intervention

You: Splitting hairs, we were talking militarily

Stranger: meddling comes in many flavors and types

Stranger: and I'm against sending troops or money to areas ripe with conflict

Stranger: the rest?

Stranger: I'm okay with

You: Trade is not 'meddling', but being more towards isolationism would be a good thing

You: Less immigration too. God knows the entire western world needs less

Stranger: lol I disagree with both points

Stranger: immigration strengthens economies

You: no... it really doesn't... not on the scale that we are doing now (I'm in the UK for reference)

Stranger: aha

Stranger: I figured by your tone

You: We should have an intelligent system

Stranger: you are a leaver.

You: yarp

Stranger: do you feel any sort of bad for Brexit?

You: No. We were always going to suffer somewhat economically, but the question of who governs us is simply more important

Stranger: *rubs at his forehead*

Stranger: so the massive batch of racist attacks fueled by the brexit vote

Stranger: you feel zero responsibility for

You: Me? Personally me?

You: No...

Stranger: did you vote?

You: What a strange question

Stranger: then you hold some responsibility for letting your racists off their leash

You: My racists?

Stranger: your racists

You: What are you talking about?

Stranger: the massive increase in racist assaults in the UK

Stranger: immediately following the brexit vote

Stranger: and if the news is to believed

Stranger: escalating further.

You: I understand what you're saying - how you connect the dots from me to them is where you've lost me

You: I cannot be held responsible for what a load of randomers do

Stranger: the people committing the assaults cite brexit as their motivation

You: OK great, what's that got to do with me?

Stranger: which, was not really that hard to predict.

Stranger: you voted for brexit?

Stranger: then you gave them ... what was the word they used

Stranger: their mandate.

You: People have different motivations for voting, this is not a hard concept to grasp.

Stranger: sure

Stranger: but brexit won

Stranger: by a slim margin

Stranger: and now racists are using it as an excuse to hurt people

You: I find it amazing you say I "gave them their mandate".

Stranger: everyone who voted leave did

Stranger: you are all responsible

Stranger: not that I expect any of you to nut up and fix the problem you created

Stranger: but hey

You: It's an awful excuse that racists will use. Why on earth would you think I condone or support it?

Stranger: have you taken any steps to stop the racists assholes in your nation?

Stranger: just one would do

Stranger: anything really

Stranger: I'm betting you have done jack shit

You: Have I taken any steps? I do not feel the need to police other people

Stranger: right, you have done jack shit

You: You're trying to make me feel bad for other people's racism

Stranger: you should feel bad for other people's racism

You: Why do you continue to lump people together like this

Stranger: especially when they cite your actions

Stranger: as their mandate

Stranger: their reason for doing what they do

Stranger: and that is hurting innocent people

You: OK great, there will always be racists, and they took this chance to hurt people

You: Again, I fail to see why you're crying at me for this

Stranger: one, I'm not crying

Stranger: I am pointing my finger accusingly

You: Lol

You: I can see

Stranger: two, you hold some small responsibility

You: No, I don;t

Stranger: sure you aren't smacking people

Stranger: but you did vote leave

Stranger: and bad shit is happening because of your action

You: You have a very strange view on politics

Stranger: not really

Stranger: cause and effect

You: I cannot help what other people I have no connection with do

Stranger: you voted, and now racists are running rampant

Stranger: you are in the same nation

You: They're really not

Stranger: one big connection

You: UK is one of the most accepting, safe nations on earth

Stranger: hah

Stranger: hahahah

Stranger: unless you're an immigrant

Stranger: then you suffer some pretty high rates of harassment

Stranger: and now, assault

Stranger: you're getting to be worse than the US

Stranger: so, bonus points for that

You: Where are you from?

Stranger: lol the US

Stranger: I know and admit my shit is fucked up

Stranger: I think its hillarious you think everything is fine

You: You know nothing about the political climate here. There aren't a big bunch of racist gangs roaming the country

Stranger: I have three friends in the UK I talk with daily

Stranger: they all voted leave

You: You are thinking in terms of "sides" when there are none.

Stranger: two of which have since then admitted they made a mistake

You: I do not regret my vote at all.

Stranger: yes, I got that

Stranger: third friend is like you

Stranger: other two aren't idiots.

You: Haha, OK, I see what kind of person you are

You: Your true colours

Stranger: I really, really hate racists.

You: I voted brexit because I believe democracy and representation mean something

Stranger: same reason my idiot friend voted that way

Stranger: he just really hates the EU

You: Are you capable of having a discussion without hurling insults?

You: I have been nothing but cordial

Stranger: sure

Stranger: lol I enjoy insults

Stranger: they tell me so much about you

You: All you do is alienate people when you do

Stranger: feel free to insult back

You: Careful on that high horse

Stranger: lol high horse?

Stranger: I live in the US

Stranger: one step from a police state

Stranger: one of our candidates for president is orange.

Stranger: ....orange.

You: Yes, it's quite clear you think I am some awful racist when I have said nothing to make you believe that

You: People who disagree with you are apparently racist automaticall

Stranger: I never said you were an awful racist

You: y

Stranger: and I don't think you are

Stranger: I do think you feel no responsibility for the racists

Stranger: which makes you an isolationist in your own right

Stranger: pretending the rest of the world has nothing to do with you

You: No, lol, I don't. How many times do I have to say. I am capable of holding a nuanced political opinion. I can't control what racists do or say, or what they use as an excuse

Stranger: you can too control the racists in your country

Stranger: it takes work and effort

You: What? No....

You: I can;t...

Stranger: lol

You: There have always been, and always will be racists. I'm not sure what you mean by "control" either

You: That's what police are for

Stranger: racism as a concept has only been seriously around for maybe the last hundred and fifty to two hundred years

You: Really...

Stranger: and as a scientific concept it has been disproven for decades.

Stranger: as a cultural concept

Stranger: I give it another fifty years

You: Did you really just say racism has only been around for 200 years?

Stranger: in its current form, yes

Stranger: with the nazis and the eugenics and whatnot

Stranger: tribalism has been around forever

(everytime, lol)


You: Racism has been around since forever. It is an extreme extension of in group preference. I don't know what you mean by "current form" either

Stranger: racism is tribalism write large, made into a scientific concept in its own right by stupid europeans

Stranger: current form, is when it was formalized in the 1800's

You: So how do you think I can 'control' these people?

Stranger: well, there's literally thousands of different steps you could take

Stranger: volunteering for organizations I'm sure exist to help stop that shit

Stranger: if thats too much work

Stranger: you could step in the next time you see some asshole being an asshole

Stranger: not asking for the moon here.

You: I will not be shamed into making life choices. I will not be held responsible for what poorly educated people do

Stranger: I'm jewish, guilt is one of my natural weapons

Stranger: if you feel shame, then you know I'm at least partially right

You: It is futile, perhaps that's where you and I differ. A utopian society simply isn't possible

Stranger: if you don't fight

Stranger: nothing changes

Stranger: and the fight continues with or without you

You: I see where you're coming from, and I get it

Stranger: you aren't needed

Stranger: but you are responsible

You: But I am not an activist

You: And no

You: Im not

Stranger: yes, you are.

Stranger: your actions directly led to people suffering

Stranger: people who are your neighbors

You: There is no way I can control that and I resent that strongly

Stranger: who you apparently give zero shits about

Stranger: you feel shame and resentment for my implications

Stranger: but they aren't wrong.

You: I feel 0 shame

You: again

Stranger: fine, you're shameless

You: I voted my conscience

Stranger: sure

You: No, lol

Stranger: and your concience got people hurt

Stranger: and is continuing to get people hurt

Stranger: so long as your racists escalate

Stranger: your responsibility grows

You: They are not my racists

Stranger: they are too your racists

You: Why do you say this

Stranger: they are in the UK and cite your actions as motivation

Stranger: and when bodies start dropping

Stranger: well, they already have

Stranger: maybe you'll change your mind

You: You are so melodramatic, it's strange.

Stranger: I care.

Stranger: sue me.

Stranger: its hard to see an older brother fail at their charge

You: 2 seconds, grabbing my charger

You: There is nothing about my vote that is racist. Xenophobic people, stupid people, saw it as an opportunity to capitalise on

You: I cannot change this

Stranger: never called you a racist