Get in here lads
I just made a lefty ragequit on omegle
Get in here lads
I just made a lefty ragequit on omegle
I will dump my chat now
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Question to discuss:
I think America should go back to isolationism. Do you agree or should America put there noses in everything?
Stranger: This question is terrible and you should feel terrible for writing it.
Stranger: actually
Stranger: its not that bad of a question
You: This isn't a bad question actually
Stranger: yeah
Stranger: I am against isolationism and military intervention
You: although should be *their, OP you reprobate
Stranger: but pretending we aren't part of a global situation is stupid
You: Depends what you mean really
You: America should definitely butt out of foreign affairs more, esp in middle east
You: It always comes back to bite them
Stranger: as I said, military intervention is a waste of lives
You: They fund one side, they turn out to be terrorists, they fund another to destroy the first and so on
Stranger: yep
Stranger: but global trade is important as hell
Stranger: and the economy would collapse without it
You: I mean, they actually funded Bin Laden, I've seen newspaper clippings praising him as some sort of freedom fighter
You: Of course
Stranger: yeah.
You: Trade is not intervention though
Stranger: trade is intervention, economic intervention
You: Splitting hairs, we were talking militarily
Stranger: meddling comes in many flavors and types
Stranger: and I'm against sending troops or money to areas ripe with conflict
Stranger: the rest?
Stranger: I'm okay with
You: Trade is not 'meddling', but being more towards isolationism would be a good thing
You: Less immigration too. God knows the entire western world needs less
Stranger: lol I disagree with both points
Stranger: immigration strengthens economies
You: no... it really doesn't... not on the scale that we are doing now (I'm in the UK for reference)
Stranger: aha
Stranger: I figured by your tone
You: We should have an intelligent system
Stranger: you are a leaver.
You: yarp
Stranger: do you feel any sort of bad for Brexit?
You: No. We were always going to suffer somewhat economically, but the question of who governs us is simply more important
Stranger: *rubs at his forehead*
Stranger: so the massive batch of racist attacks fueled by the brexit vote
Stranger: you feel zero responsibility for
You: Me? Personally me?
You: No...
Stranger: did you vote?
You: What a strange question
Stranger: then you hold some responsibility for letting your racists off their leash
You: My racists?
Stranger: your racists
You: What are you talking about?
Stranger: the massive increase in racist assaults in the UK
Stranger: immediately following the brexit vote
Stranger: and if the news is to believed
Stranger: escalating further.
You: I understand what you're saying - how you connect the dots from me to them is where you've lost me
You: I cannot be held responsible for what a load of randomers do
Stranger: the people committing the assaults cite brexit as their motivation
You: OK great, what's that got to do with me?
Stranger: which, was not really that hard to predict.
Stranger: you voted for brexit?
Stranger: then you gave them ... what was the word they used
Stranger: their mandate.
You: People have different motivations for voting, this is not a hard concept to grasp.
Stranger: sure
Stranger: but brexit won
Stranger: by a slim margin
Stranger: and now racists are using it as an excuse to hurt people
You: I find it amazing you say I "gave them their mandate".
Stranger: everyone who voted leave did
Stranger: you are all responsible
Stranger: not that I expect any of you to nut up and fix the problem you created
Stranger: but hey
You: It's an awful excuse that racists will use. Why on earth would you think I condone or support it?
Stranger: have you taken any steps to stop the racists assholes in your nation?
Stranger: just one would do
Stranger: anything really
Stranger: I'm betting you have done jack shit
You: Have I taken any steps? I do not feel the need to police other people
Stranger: right, you have done jack shit
You: You're trying to make me feel bad for other people's racism
Stranger: you should feel bad for other people's racism
You: Why do you continue to lump people together like this
Stranger: especially when they cite your actions
Stranger: as their mandate
Stranger: their reason for doing what they do
Stranger: and that is hurting innocent people
You: OK great, there will always be racists, and they took this chance to hurt people
You: Again, I fail to see why you're crying at me for this
Stranger: one, I'm not crying
Stranger: I am pointing my finger accusingly
You: Lol
You: I can see
Stranger: two, you hold some small responsibility
You: No, I don;t
Stranger: sure you aren't smacking people
Stranger: but you did vote leave
Stranger: and bad shit is happening because of your action
You: You have a very strange view on politics
Stranger: not really
Stranger: cause and effect
You: I cannot help what other people I have no connection with do
Stranger: you voted, and now racists are running rampant
Stranger: you are in the same nation
You: They're really not
Stranger: one big connection
You: UK is one of the most accepting, safe nations on earth
Stranger: hah
Stranger: hahahah
Stranger: unless you're an immigrant
Stranger: then you suffer some pretty high rates of harassment
Stranger: and now, assault
Stranger: you're getting to be worse than the US
Stranger: so, bonus points for that
You: Where are you from?
Stranger: lol the US
Stranger: I know and admit my shit is fucked up
Stranger: I think its hillarious you think everything is fine
You: You know nothing about the political climate here. There aren't a big bunch of racist gangs roaming the country
Stranger: I have three friends in the UK I talk with daily
Stranger: they all voted leave
You: You are thinking in terms of "sides" when there are none.
Stranger: two of which have since then admitted they made a mistake
You: I do not regret my vote at all.
Stranger: yes, I got that
Stranger: third friend is like you
Stranger: other two aren't idiots.
You: Haha, OK, I see what kind of person you are
You: Your true colours
Stranger: I really, really hate racists.
You: I voted brexit because I believe democracy and representation mean something
Stranger: same reason my idiot friend voted that way
Stranger: he just really hates the EU
You: Are you capable of having a discussion without hurling insults?
You: I have been nothing but cordial
Stranger: sure
Stranger: lol I enjoy insults
Stranger: they tell me so much about you
You: All you do is alienate people when you do
Stranger: feel free to insult back
You: Careful on that high horse
Stranger: lol high horse?
Stranger: I live in the US
Stranger: one step from a police state
Stranger: one of our candidates for president is orange.
Stranger: ....orange.
You: Yes, it's quite clear you think I am some awful racist when I have said nothing to make you believe that
You: People who disagree with you are apparently racist automaticall
Stranger: I never said you were an awful racist
You: y
Stranger: and I don't think you are
Stranger: I do think you feel no responsibility for the racists
Stranger: which makes you an isolationist in your own right
Stranger: pretending the rest of the world has nothing to do with you
You: No, lol, I don't. How many times do I have to say. I am capable of holding a nuanced political opinion. I can't control what racists do or say, or what they use as an excuse
Stranger: you can too control the racists in your country
Stranger: it takes work and effort
You: What? No....
You: I can;t...
Stranger: lol
You: There have always been, and always will be racists. I'm not sure what you mean by "control" either
You: That's what police are for
Stranger: racism as a concept has only been seriously around for maybe the last hundred and fifty to two hundred years
You: Really...
Stranger: and as a scientific concept it has been disproven for decades.
Stranger: as a cultural concept
Stranger: I give it another fifty years
You: Did you really just say racism has only been around for 200 years?
Stranger: in its current form, yes
Stranger: with the nazis and the eugenics and whatnot
Stranger: tribalism has been around forever
(everytime, lol)
You: Racism has been around since forever. It is an extreme extension of in group preference. I don't know what you mean by "current form" either
Stranger: racism is tribalism write large, made into a scientific concept in its own right by stupid europeans
Stranger: current form, is when it was formalized in the 1800's
You: So how do you think I can 'control' these people?
Stranger: well, there's literally thousands of different steps you could take
Stranger: volunteering for organizations I'm sure exist to help stop that shit
Stranger: if thats too much work
Stranger: you could step in the next time you see some asshole being an asshole
Stranger: not asking for the moon here.
You: I will not be shamed into making life choices. I will not be held responsible for what poorly educated people do
Stranger: I'm jewish, guilt is one of my natural weapons
Stranger: if you feel shame, then you know I'm at least partially right
You: It is futile, perhaps that's where you and I differ. A utopian society simply isn't possible
Stranger: if you don't fight
Stranger: nothing changes
Stranger: and the fight continues with or without you
You: I see where you're coming from, and I get it
Stranger: you aren't needed
Stranger: but you are responsible
You: But I am not an activist
You: And no
You: Im not
Stranger: yes, you are.
Stranger: your actions directly led to people suffering
Stranger: people who are your neighbors
You: There is no way I can control that and I resent that strongly
Stranger: who you apparently give zero shits about
Stranger: you feel shame and resentment for my implications
Stranger: but they aren't wrong.
You: I feel 0 shame
You: again
Stranger: fine, you're shameless
You: I voted my conscience
Stranger: sure
You: No, lol
Stranger: and your concience got people hurt
Stranger: and is continuing to get people hurt
Stranger: so long as your racists escalate
Stranger: your responsibility grows
You: They are not my racists
Stranger: they are too your racists
You: Why do you say this
Stranger: they are in the UK and cite your actions as motivation
Stranger: and when bodies start dropping
Stranger: well, they already have
Stranger: maybe you'll change your mind
You: You are so melodramatic, it's strange.
Stranger: I care.
Stranger: sue me.
Stranger: its hard to see an older brother fail at their charge
You: 2 seconds, grabbing my charger
You: There is nothing about my vote that is racist. Xenophobic people, stupid people, saw it as an opportunity to capitalise on
You: I cannot change this
Stranger: never called you a racist
Stranger: or said your vote was racist
You: "Your racists"
Stranger: I said that racists used your vote to hurt people
Stranger: and are continuing to use it
You: I am not in "their side"
Stranger: never said that either
Stranger: just that you are responsible for them
You: You keep saying my racists
Stranger: yes
You: And insist I am not
Stranger: ownership doesnt mean you agree with it
You: Where do racists not exist? Where do racists never seize upon a political shift to implement their racism?
You: I would like to know
Stranger: lol well fairly sure in this conversation there are two people where no racists exist
You: Should I not vote for what I think is right and true if someone, somewhere, uses it as an excuse for racism?
Stranger: we can debate the rightness and trueness of your vote later
You: Not the point
Stranger: and you can vote however you like
You: I will vote however I like, and individual racists should be held accountable
You: Group punishment and shaming solves nothing
Stranger: I'm not punishing a group or shaming a group
Stranger: I'm punishing and shaming you
Stranger: I can't throttle your racists.
Stranger: but you can.
You: Come on, you can't imply I'm an idiot because some racist attacks happen
Stranger: never said you were an idiot
Stranger: called my friend who is like you an idiot
You: "imply"
Stranger: you make far better arguements than he does
Stranger: not that you have much diversity
Stranger: other than "no I am not responsible"
Stranger: I don't debate with idiots
Stranger: and I don't insult idiots
Stranger: there's no point to it
You: I just think this group thinking is a poison on our society. The same thing that makes you think I am responsible for these racists is the same thing that makes the racists believe they are just as bad as e.g. Rotherham rape gangs
Stranger: group thinking lol
You: e.g. all Pakistanis are responsible
Stranger: I am not saying all people who voted leave are responsible
Stranger: but you are
You: You must individually and by merit
You: *evaluate
Stranger: individually and by merit of voting leave and having enough brains to debate the concept
Stranger: therefore have the power to move and control your society
You: Why do you keep using this language
Stranger: and therefore the responsibilty to mitigate the damage caused by your actions allowing more actions to occur
You: "idiot" etc
You: Look, there is no way I can forsee what people will do
You: I voted brexit because I want us to be able to hire and fire the people who govern us
Stranger: but you can read a chart, yes?
Stranger: identify the slop of a line
Stranger: slop->slope
You: ...
You: "I am not saying all people who voted leave are responsible" but why me
You: personally
Stranger: because you're smart.
Stranger: and a moral person
Stranger: I can tell this just from our short interaction
You: Don't patronise me
Stranger: far from it
Stranger: being honest here
You: I can't predict the future
Stranger: I disagree with your actions but your rationality is sound
Stranger: don't give a fuck about that
Stranger: what I care about is your actions
You: All those "racist" things I have done
Stranger: as I keep saying
Stranger: I never have nor will I call you racist
Stranger: all I am saying
Stranger: is you are repsonsible for the racists running wild
You: Crazy thing to say
Stranger: not terribly
Stranger: you voted leave, then according to the math
Stranger: there was a signficant increase in racist attacks in the UK
Stranger: 40%?
Stranger: in the first month
Stranger: and its been rising ever since
You: I cannot predict the future nor do I condone what they did. We have to evaluate people individually here
Stranger: you can read the slope of a line
Stranger: predicting the future isn't hard with math.
Stranger: and if you and people like you
Stranger: don't take steps
Stranger: to stop that math
Stranger: you wont end up somewhere good
You: The UK always has been and always will be a very accepting place. The hysteria has happened because it is to out of touch with what the UK is normally like
You: *so out of touch
Stranger: the hysteria has been going on for a third of a year
Stranger: and has only been escalating
Stranger: I dont want to see the UK become worse than the US
You: There is no chance my friend
Stranger: if there were no chance
Stranger: I wouldn't have spent all this time
Stranger: insulting you
Stranger: and making my point
You: Lol, I know you're passionate, and things are heating up over here
You: But there's a LOT of hysteria around it
Stranger: yes, and its not getting better.
Stranger: if the numbers showed a decrease
Stranger: I wouldn't bother bothering you
You: This comes after a slew of Pakistani communities, as I said before, raping girls all over the UK on an industrial scale for many years
You: There are real things we have to face
Stranger: and there are real children getting beaten by racists too
You: Not the same
You: Nowhere near the scale
Stranger: debatable
Stranger: the scale is tipping
You: Not at all
You: Some racists comments, some violence here and there and some nasty letters through the door is nothing compared
You: We can't let the legitimate fears of racism be used to stop this debate
You: Otherwise it will be a pressure cooker
Stranger: I'm not asking you to not vote leave over and over
Stranger: I'm asking you to stop racists from hurting children
You: Allowing people to talk, and NOT shaming them for their choices, means people won't resort to violence
Stranger: I will use shame all I like
Stranger: its an effective tool
You: Come on mate, just silly
You: "stop racists from hurting children"
Stranger: which is what your racists are doing
Stranger: majority of the rise has been in schools
You: They have nothing to do with me
Stranger: sure.
You: nope
Stranger: you tell yourself that at night
You: I do not
You: I dont need to
Stranger: and when shit gets real bad.
Stranger: remember I told you so
Stranger: and that you could have stopped it early
You: If I see it, I will speak out against it. I am not an acitivist and will not be shamed into making life choices
Stranger: because clearly
Stranger: it has nothing to do with you
Stranger: sure.
Stranger: I thought the british had spine.
You: HA. More shaming
You: nice
Stranger: I'm jewish
You: I can see right through you
Stranger: so, shame and guilt
You: I am comfortable with my own morality
Stranger: main weapons
Stranger: sure.
Stranger: and when the bodies pile up
Stranger: don't come knocking at my door
Stranger has disconnected.
Brilliant circle logic of leftists makes me LOL everytime
He kept going round in circles, it was unbelievable
I could feel he wanted to go as soon as I mentioned Rotherham
Anyone have good questions to ask?
bump
I've just seen a load of Sup Forums tier questions on omegle I know you faggots are lurking
So many garbage questions with KIK...
Seems like a load of sex craving pre teens
Thoughts on my chat? I tried to go for the softly softly approach
I didn't read it, I am now going to try to get people to call: 0800 789 321.
Pretty sure Im red pilling some pre teen girl atm
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