A question of philosophy

Can you prove that logic works as a structure? Without the use of logic?

Idk can you wipe your ass with a matress?

sorry I don't know what this means, my IQ was lowered by the Zika virus

define "work"

what's the best ratchet & clank

i vote deadlocked because weapon customizability

define "define"

Definetly 3. Or whatever it's called in America. Tools of Destruction wasn't bad either desu

define 'definining "define"'

no but seriously guys, I need this for research purposes.

You can't, right? Isn't that what drove bertrand russell and wittgenstein insane?

define "research" and "insane"

Logic is objective and present in the universe. It is observation of this reality through both our minds-eye, and actual eye.

can you prove that?

it just does

This works very well, tbf.

OP should use it in his paper.

What is there prove when all knowledge is ultimately based on trust?

Honestly, this may be well-suited for

logic does work as a structure, which is why one will use it to prove his/hers statement.

It would be very painful

that's an interesting point

are you an atheist or a theist or an agnostic?

just asking

other structures have the ability to be perceived as proving statements as well, though

basically: logic is a structure, and the proof of it is how one needs it to back up a statement.

another proof for it, is that a statement without logic are just opinions, and if there would be only opinions, such thing as "true" or "false" won't exist, thus making the creation of a society impossible.

correct. other structures can do the same. but doesn't it means that logic is one of them?

well user? did i answer your question?

>can you drive a car without a steering wheel.
Sure, progressives do it every day.

I'm a theist, but not of any specific variety. Let's just say that I believe in God, and that I hope he is the Christian kind - kind, just and merciful.

Over all, however, my fundamental belief is in legacy and leaving behind an impression upon the world. Hopefully a positive one.

Nature has structures and hierarchies that define an order

Language and symbolic thought came from nature

Dunno wtf was wrong with Goedel

this too is what I believe

That's why I asked the question about logic

I don't believe that logic can exist without a god, when you get down deep into the bowels of what logic is

logic requires cause and effect to work; in a completely atheistic belief system, you have to believe that cause and effect was suspended at some point in time.

with a theistic system, you believe that there are principles higher than logic, which exist outside of cause and effect

For you