Redpill me on soviet occupation of eastern european countries plz

redpill me on soviet occupation of eastern european countries plz

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Thank you for the shitty commie blocks, illiterate illegal immigrants and aids.

Typical grocery store queue in Vilnius (the capital of current Lithuania), 1990,

You're Lithuanian and you're this retarded?

No wonder our population is in decline.

Like, ask your parents or grandparents, there is a good chance one of your relatives were banished by the Soviets. My great grandparents were. There's nothing to redpill, fuck off.

IS TO BE HAVING GLORIOUS COMMUNIST CIVIL STRUCTURE!

>going from GDP per capita parity between Finland and Estonia in 1939 to Finland having 8x the GDP per capita of Estonia in 50 years

thank u liberators

Weird how they "built us shiet" yet every country they didn't build shit for is like five times better off than we are.

Example: Finland

Leaves commie blocks and decadent (slave-like) russian mentality in the afflicted population.

thats like proving germany sucked by showing berlin in may 1945. not that I know or care how life really was in the baltics

this was literally a picture from when the system unravelled

wait what? I thought countries like Lithuania and estonia suffered badly from global depression during inter-war before soviets took over and thats why they turned out to be poor

Fuck off, Finland sucks.

Holodomor

>when the system unraveled
that's the point.

College student pls. Deficits were common in the free block as what little quality production was available got exported (outside the free block) for currency.
For example, tv's were troublesome to get your hands on... especially in color. Unless you were party member with access to convertible currency and thus western goods.

that picture is very misleading for a historical perspective

Everyone suffered from global depression, I don't know about Lithuania, but Estonia and especially Latvia was seeing an economic boom in the 30s. In any case, living standards here in the late 30s were considerably better than in the Soviet Union and southern Europe. I've already posted statistics.

>parents grew up in the USSR
>told me it was comfy as fuck if you were willing to stand in lines
>the media tells me it was shit

which one is it?

>right-wing legislative coup forces out elected social-democratic leader to protect state corruption
>"""Socialism"""

Any country occupied by soviets did much worse compared to the non occupied ones. Best example is eastern Germany

Achmed, you are wrong.

I am a former professor of late Soviet studies, I have no illusions that the period was sunshine and roses, I'm just saying that a picture from 1990 is a little misleading

>wheel falls of new traktor
>collective blames you and you are taken to gulag

>find book from before the glorious revolution
>neighbour outs you as a subversive and you are taken to gulag

>complain you live in siberia and you have waited a decade for a vehicle
>labelled a troublemaker and taken to gulag

Ya fucking retard, go speak with your grandparents. Sending the wealthy middle class farmers (hard workers and intelligent) to siberia for a saw dust diet -> then importing the bottom of the pit slavs (actual, literal pig fuckers) in to replace the dead. Lets say that this shit needs more than a century to heal the nation. And take into account that before the war Finland had smaller economic power than Estonia, by 2005 it was times bigger than rest of the baltics combined :(

No thx, and China is doing good now, so it does not apply to the current state

my mom emigrated from FSU Armenia and that's why she is such a right-winger. She hates communism and privilege solely for the upper class (which she was, and she hated the ability for people to move up with their lot in life). She came to the US in the last months of Reagan's presidency and watched the country deteriorate into an even more warped version of the FSU

you're going to pass our gdp per capita soon
our state socialism is collapsing hard right now and the uneducated mass thinks voting for far left parties, having more free stuff and raising the minimum wages is going to be the answer

Soviets ran a genocide campaign of forced relocations, importing ethnic russians and executing patriots

yeah and when global depression happened and your economy got dumpstered lol its not soviets fault
btf not everyone suffered from depression at the same rate

Finland for example did not suffer economically to the extent of the rest of Europe. Vast forests gave rise to a major timber industry, something high in demand during the interwar period.

weren't gulags over after Stalin's death?

what the fuck are you talking about you potato nigger, i've already provided you with statistics.

2nd. USSR was comfy for poors cuz everything were almost free.

Thank you, liberators!
We never liked anything beautiful anyway. Install more defective, dull and gray shit built by drunk mongols plox

>Soviets try and correct the "mistake of nature" in Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan that is the Aral Sea to irrigate desert
>2 decades later

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aral_Sea

>former
Rape a student?

Nah guys i don't understand why you blame USSR for your low GDP when it has planned economic? All you got from ussr: factories, own production were destroyed.

THANK YOU GLORIOUS COMMUNISM FOR SHOWING US HOW SUBVERSIVE THE FISHING INDUSTRY IS! AT LAST WE TRULY SEE!

Holodomor, but wow nice buildings.

...

I really don't understand why bolsheviks won, that was really fucking lucky.

can you red pill me?

>Nah guys i don't understand
jup mate, thats the problem, anybody that did try to understand was declared a kulak/counterrevolutionary and sent to siberia

It brought civilization to Estonia Latvia, Lithuania and Poland.
Saved them from extinction.
And yet they are still salty. Thats the kind of people they are.

nature btfo

The landscape is now much better without this dirty water in the way. Especially in desert conditions, water is the last thing you need!

No.
And specservices always had their ways.

I fucking hate commies, why are white russians such a pussies REEEEEE

my grandmother says that life was excellent during that time and my parent are brainwashed phaggots

>Sending the wealthy middle class farmers
>middle class farmers
>middle class
kek. Do you even believe your own lies?

>I really don't understand
jeah, it comes from your genetics (also a counterevolutionary science that was banned in soviet union)

Here is TLDR on history of these 3 "countries" with joint population of 1/3 of Moscow's

>be finno-mongoloid fishers and peasants
>Russian empire comes, builds some infrastructure, brings some education
>Germans come, bring culture and education
>start of the xx century - best period of their history, cultural and industrial growth
>1917 - Latvians are crucial in the Bolshevick revolution, actually helping communists destroy Russian elite
>karma is a bitch, when commies are done with Russian nationalists, they come for baltic states
>when USSR shithole finally falls apart the 3 "nations" turn into butthurt belt whining about muh occupation and forgetting their part in 1917
>also introduce aparteid-style spolicies against remaining Russians
>3 great nations with a population of 5 million people combined realize they have a big debt to their neighbor and are constantly afraid of tanks rolling into their fisher villages (which would be happily supported by local Russians)
>after Crimea they tremble when seeing any Russian plane or ship near their borders knowing LIBERATION IS IMMINENT

such is life in Baltic

The Soviet Union was not Russian

>Lithuania

If the Baltic States were children, you'd be the one they kept in the coalshed.

>comfy as fuck if you were willing to stand in lines
>and to enter empty stores every day

>She hates communism and privilege solely for the upper class
Kek. Sounds like an idiot.

Factories producing shit nobody needed. I vaguely remember all the tomato juice you could buy in stores while people had to line up for fucking bread. The whole soviet economy was a mess, they built factories in the middle of nowhere because of utopian idiocy that there would be no difference between the countryside and cities in communism. Also, whatever was produced was meant for Soviet consumption. After 1991, Estonia took on radical reforms to distance ourselves from the Russian market as quickly as possible, our main trade partners are now Sweden, Finland and Germany.

Of course those shitty Soviet factories couldn't compete in a western oriented market economy, the fact that they shut down is a good thing, we've invested other areas. Estonia is now a modern, service based economy with a booming IT sector and wages 3x what they are in Russia.

Soooo...
you're saying German-Baltic culture that existed here before Soviets, basically 700 years - since 13th century, wasn't civilized compared to Soviet one?

wew lad

>German
>Pro-Soviet Union

Astonishing. No wonder you guys love the EU so much.

t. descendant of slavic rape baby

There was always a deficit of ordinary consumer goods. Like quality meat, toilet paper (not really existent except perhaps in bigger cities), fruits, cars (waiting line for those was inconceivable), etc. Planned economies tend to have deficits, that's just Macro 101. That's why black market was so big in USSR, as to be called "second economy" and that's why shop-keeper was considered prestigious job.
But you are right, situation in late 80s was horrendous, even by commie standards. Usually, you at least would be able to see cans of sprats and sausages made of pig tails on the shelves.

You may not give a shit about Baltics, but it's important to understand this to fully understand consequences of planned economy. It's also important to understand how fucked you are when your oil reserves run out.

commie solution to "economic destruction"

Wages? How much average wage in tallin?

Estonia and Latvia were the wealthiest, most educated regions of the Russian empire because of local Germans, not you. Your people couldn't even fucking read until 3 generations ago.

if you let go of your dignity and accept that everything what would happen to you depends on unreliable government, then yes, comfy as fuck. but then, you are already comfy, isn't it?

plain bullshit, sire

>kek. Do you even believe your own lies?
Yeah, i grew up in one of those villages that was built by people that had too much land per family (more than 30 ha /family == kulak == dead in siberia). During middle school history classes we literally had to do research by asking old people what the WW2 and soviet occupation was like. I have no reason to belive that my grandparents lied to me about those times.

>implying Russian schools, hospitals and libraries are anywhere near the quality of Western schools, hospitals and libraries

Go somewhere else you fucking commie.

Shit post, but nice trips tho'.

My Grandmother came from Hungary during WW2 after soviets invaded. They were redpilled as fuck after a socialist came to power and decided to move three other families into their home because "thats what a good remember of the party would do". They fled because they said the neighbors would tell them out to the soviets and they would outright execute them.

Russians school's weren't that bad. Of course they don't have comfy cafeterias or something like that but soviets managed to rise literacy rate from 10% to 99% in 60 years

lenin was a german spy.

Google says 1060 euros/month

>asks google about his country

then you shouldnt comment anymore.

butthurt belt damage control, just as planned

also, i should remind Poland annexed another nation's clay just before it was devided by Hitler and Stalin

after that Poland turned into a whiny little bitch crying about muh annexation

ca 1200 @ 2015

That's little bit more than average in Russia except really poor regions like Pskov. Not x3

That's the national average, in Tallinn it's around 1208 euros as of 2015. From what I could find, it's around 600 in Moscow at current exchange rates.

I get more. So I don't know the average.
do you know current average wage for every german city?
idiot

Why are slavniggers such cucks?

>cucked by Turks
>cucked by Tatar muslims
>cucked by Byzantines
>cucked by Vikings
>cucked by kikes
>cucked by mongols

You can't make this shit up

Engineering soviet union into existance was few of the succesful operations germans pulled off during WW1.

average wage in Russia as of 2016 is around 500 euros
tradingeconomics.com/russia/wages

That's more than double.

I feel bad for Russia & Eastern Europe. Commies did a number on y'all, and even with Soviets no longer around their stench still lingers. Things would've been better under the Nazis.

You are full of shit about everything else, but the Poland story WAS funny.

Yea, you are right we shouldn't react to sub-humans with ape levels of IQ throwing shit all around.

That's funny coming from a greek

Oy Vey! Such great knowledge about foreign countries Constitutions and rites of Law you possess!

Thanks RT!

A lot of balts fled the country together with the Wehrmacht because they knew what was coming

>also introduce aparteid-style spolicies against remaining Russians
Russians live better lives here than they do in Russia. So whatever apartheid is, it must be good.

>also, i should remind Czechoslovakia annexed another nation's clay just before it was invaded by Lenin

he must vote for bernie, what a fucking retard

decent reply.

we will have to move our engineers into other sectors when the oil dries out. basically we might end up becoming like sweden or denmark in the future. and I mean future as in when I am old and dying

The whole De-Stalinization thing was just a big disinformation ploy to trick western powers into believing that Khrushchev was a good guy, when in fact he was just as wicked as the psychopathic Mario bros. that ruled before him.

I wanted to move to Estonia or other close country but i don't want to loose my job :€

Guys, I think OP just smoked 3 tons of weed, is a troll or a ruskiefag. Most of my countrymen think that people like him should be lynched from a tree.

Red riflemen from Latvia and 1905 had some influence, I guess. If putch succeeded, you would thank our Pugo. But other than that- state sanctioned terror and lack of responsibility, coming by the promises of of collectivism.

>Things would've been better under the Nazis.

What was General plan ost

oh, by the way KURWA KATYN was also one of those "karma is a bitch" moments

your polish butcher Felix Dzerzhinsky was killing Russian intelligentsiya by the thousands in 1917

But with Generalplan Afrika there would be no overpopulation/consumption issue!

>jewish lackey
>a representative of Polish nation

Mate, all commies surrender their nationality at great altar of Redardation

When the Germans occupied Czechia, they paid my grandpa for building roads.

When the Russians came, they raped girls as young as 7 and tried to rape my grandmother too (even tho she was a 20+ yr old used up whore with kids already).