Tonight's QandA proves it.
Cuck-cannons (guns) and their lovers have NO PLACE in a modern Australia.
Australia has never liked, needed or wanted guns on our streets and not in the hands of professionals. We are a safer society without them and will will take further steps to get them off the streets thereby making our fair nation greater.
And before you ask, no, I'm not a "leftie" I'm actually quite right wing.
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okay see you when jamal from sudan breaks down your door and fucks your wife
be a true blue aussie and hide in your closet senpai, do the right thing! can't have guns around, gotta be safe.
>We are a safer society without them
You're demonstrably not though.
>And before you ask,
There's no need to ask. Every single Australian is a weapons-grade retard and a left-wing liar sucking Soros's withered cock.
>no, I'm not a "leftie"
Yeah you are.
Now fuck off, you Pacific leaf.
>Cuck-cannons
You can say it aint be like it is
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>safe storage
Yeah I can't wait to do lap around my house while being chased by 3 guys who want to kill me and rape my family. My first lap I'll pick up my gun, second lap I'll grab my ammo, third lap I'll go back and close the safe which contains the remaining ammo because I don't want to get fined. Then I'll finally shoot them and protect my family.
What fuckin purpose does a gun for protection serve if it needs to be kept in pieces locked in a safe? I'll never understand this mentality. If I have kids and I'm stupid enough leave it loaded on the bench I deserve to get shot by my 3yr old and when I finally come out of hospital I should be punished for allowing my gun to get into the hands of a child.
So bizarre
>Australia worst day
Modern gun safes are designed to be very secure, whilst still allowing very quick access.
Educate yourself
Wow, your government misspelled the word "license" on their own official literature. God damn Australia sucks.
>Loses a war to fucking emus
>Thinks they can have opinions
>Literally a nation filled with descendants of cuck prisoners, and worse than nigger abbos
No wonder your suicide rates are so high.
I actually pity you.
>i have never even browsed a catalogue of gun safes
ok
>very quick
Walk up to safe, put PIN in (and hope you got it right), open up safe, grab gun, grab ammo, load gun (if shotgun this takes a fucking long time), go to threat
then shoot the threat and get put in prison afterwards because you clearly had enough time to call the police so the criminal dindu nuffin
meanwhile in a world that makes sense, i just pick up my gun, put a mag in, cycle the action and i'm ready to go.
i'd rather take the latter when Tyrone and Muhammad are breaking down my front door and coming in with axes. Have you ever witnessed a home invasion?
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Hahaha yeah OP you're right, fuck guns!
(America, send help, please).
no, you don't need a gun safe (at least in qld anyway) if you have a vault instead.
If the walls are secure, it has no windows, and the door meets certain requirements, then it is classified as a vault.
A cinder-block / besser brick structure with rebar and concrete poured down the slots, with no windows, and with a door that meets the hinge and lock requirements (it has to be locked at multiple points) meets the requirements as a vault, then you can just put the guns on a bench inside the vault.
So you just make your vault also a panic room. And then when under attack you enter your panic room, gear up in your CIRAS + groin + shoulder, put on some tan boots and gloves, helmet with a go pro on it, and emerge from your vault as some kind of call of duty operation desert storm son of a bitch and wreck the intruders with your semi auto handgun and bolt action rifle or whatever you got.
>Loses a war to fucking emus
It's our Veitnam, we only lost due to a shift in public opinion. If you are the American who will go to any lengths to claim that USA never lost the Vietnam war, you have no right to bring up the Emu War.
Besides, "losing" a "war" to a bunch of birds is hardly the most embarrassing military defeat.
All true, but they are the nation closest to us. We are basically brothers. colonies of England. Planted on vast lands full of darkies.
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Saged
Well most Australians are descendants of the criminals that the British put there in prisons, so I wouldn't want you guys having them either.
come on guys my idea here is literally perfect
though i suppose when faced with perfection it is normal to not have anything to respond with
Take the cup and drink from it. If you do not drink, we will make you. Drinking from the cup will make you safer, and in turn make our society safer. Drink it. Now.
>Id rather fight off 1 abbo with me bare hands while the other 3 fuck my wife, my wifes son, and my dog
Aussies everyone
I'm from Melbourne's west (don't hold it against me, I was born here and have no money to move) and wish I had a gun.
I've heard from a few people in my area of blacks breaking into homes and/or stealing cars.
Wish I could legally own a gun and shoot these niggers if they ever stepped on my property.
>muh pin
>muh combination
It's a fucking key lock you moron. You literally unlock it and unlock the ammo box and load your rifle. Takes about 5 seconds.
It's crystal clear that you don't actually own guns so why don't you fuck off? It's not as if you give a shit about this issue. If you did you'd put your money where your mouth is instead of just whining like a bitch.
It's called building code, friend.
how about just letting people be fucking adults, trusting them with their weapons just the same as you would trust any of them to drink, get a job, buy a house, etc?
what if they dont step on your property, but they jump your little brother while he just walking down the sidewalk on the way to work?
blacks do more than home invasions, that is only the tip of the iceberg
You're a retarded cunt and I hope you die, you stupid fucking cunt.
>implying I'd ever trust you with a gun
Fuck you, cunt.
Ayy awesome, let me just ask Tyrone politely to not cave my skull in while I retrieve my safe key, unlock my safe, unlock the ammo box and load my rifle.
I'm sure that's easier than just letting people keep guns like Americans.
Gas yourself you rancid gaping ass chimney.
And yet, you live in a country that is inferior to one ran by the descendants of criminals.
Nice work being a complete failure.
Are you so afraid of being shot for being a leftist shill and a softcunt that you scream and jump up and down to hav them banned? Guns are still very much legal in australia, but there are incredibly reasonable restrictions, we haven't had a mass shooting since 1996 and out of all the gun crime we have, most of the weapons are obtained illegally.
If you think you can take away the guns of a nation, you'll have first patrol the border to extreme lengths to make sure nobody can bring them in, then you'll have to convince thousands to give them up (good luck with that), then destroy or hide all the guns not in the posession of the police or military. IF you manage to do that without genocide and spending the entire country's budget, then all you've achieved is making the people who would normally be killed b guns, be killed by knives instead, and I don't think banning knives is actually possible.
>Well most Australians are descendants of the criminals
It's actually only ~25% desu.
Gas yourself you rancid gaping ass chimney. Hope your whore mother dies getting raped with a knife.
On the day of the rope, you will be strung up.
Unless you're the kind of dipshit Americuck who literally sleeps with his gun it's no more of an inconvenience than if you had it shoved down behind your bed or something.
Put safe key on necklace, sleep with necklace on if you're so fucking concerned. Like I said, you say "BUT MUH OPENING THE SAFE!!!!" like it takes 30 minutes and has a piano lock, but it's literally just a key. I can open my front door in pitch black with hands full of groceries in a few seconds. I can open a fucking safe.
Okay shitstain.
>we haven't had a mass shooting since 1996
> out of all the gun crime we have, most of the weapons are obtained illegally.
So by your own admissions the gun laws don't actually stop anything. Why not loosen the gun laws and instead attack criminals, the people who actually do rob and murder with their guns?
This is an accurate representation of the people in Australia who want more guns.
I'd insult your mother back but sadly nobody knows which skank bitch it was who shat you out of her frontbutt because you were found abandoned in a sewage drain, where you belonged.
>pic related
All the fucks I give
Mirin his trigger discipline, though.
Die eating shit you stupid leftist nigger.
>goys it takes a few seconds to unlock your safe, load your rooty tooty point n shooty then ur good to go!
it takes Jamal and Jamile 1 second to run over to you while you take 20 seconds at most to prepare for a home invasion
Infact, why dont you aussies with guns time yourselves right now, act like your house is getting broke into, see how fast you can get your gun out. go on this will be a good exercise
Have you ever considered stabbing yourself in the face?
You should do so. The world would be a great deal better.
Seriously consider it. You should stab yourself in the face, it would be quite a good thing.
Go back to bed, Leyonhjelm.
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Why are Australians so retarted? Recently they have been shitposting to a new extreme. It's getting worse than the leafs.
Australia was a prison, and it still is.
You don't own guns, you never have, you never will.
You're proud of being a retarded, degenerate faggot who wants people to be disarmed.
You don't deserve a good death. You deserve a fucking painful one.
>it takes Jamal and Jamile 1 second to run over to you while you take 20 seconds at most to prepare for a home invasion
Unless they are a team of crack assassins infiltrating through your bedroom window you're full of shit.
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Stale pasta is stale. Sage for (((you)))
Totally agree. Guns have no place on our streets. Here in Australia we take things a little less seriously. I've personally seen two blokes laugh off a car crash and other strenuous scenarios. Guns create tension and guns take life. Both these things are just totally unaustralian.
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Mate, I don't know the layout of your house, but in my house my bedroom is about 2 meters from the front door.
So, Tyrone and Jamal bash down my front door at 2 AM (i'm not going to know until they do it), they come in, they bash down my bedroom door and there I am, fiddling with my safe with nothing more than my bare ass to defend myself with.
I would prefer being able to, say, put an AR with a mag in but no round chambered under my bed at night. It's not going to discharge unless I'm a fuckwit, I pick it up, chamber a round, and point my rifle at the door.
I'm concerned about this shit because my house actually has been invaded before. I got one of the cunts over the head with a golf club, and the only reason I'm alive today is because they got scared and ran out. Not because I wanted them to, but because they were personally scared.
Now, if those bastards were on drugs and hell bent on killing me, I'd be dead. I want to be able to defend myself. No, a safe will not help me in my personal situation, nor will a vault.
Yeah you've never actually had anyone break into your house. They put a crowbar in, wrench it a tiny bit, then kick your door in. At that point you're most likely asleep and there's probably 3 or more of them. Unless you turn into a navy seal when you're asleep you're going to have at most a second of warning, and the difference between 50 and 5 seconds in getting your gun doesn't matter. You need to do it instantly.
>build society on the backs of men wielding guns
>now remove all guns
What could possibly go wrong.
>You don't own guns, you never have, you never will.
I have two Enfields and a Ross in the safe in my bedroom and I'm looking to acquire a four bore stopping gun at some point in the future. Believe it or don't.
>You're proud of being a retarded, degenerate faggot who wants people to be disarmed.
The vast majority of Australians are retarded degenerates who don't deserve to be and certainly aren't capable of being armed.
You included, seeing as you believe that people who disagree with you politically deserve death. Is that you, Mohammed? Why don't you fuck off back to Raqqa with your intifadatarded friends. You are the last man in the country who should be allowed guns because if you get one it's only a matter of time before you shoot up a school in the name of meme magic and your alt-right deity.
Guns are not toys, and so we don't give them to kids or retards.
Guns for whites only, simple and solves all gun related problems
>So by your own admissions the gun laws don't actually stop anything. Why not loosen the gun laws and instead attack criminals, the people who actually do rob and murder with their guns?
If we loosen the laws then not only organised criminals but street criminals and the mentally ill will have them too.
You deserve an ugly, traitors death, and that's exactly what you'll get.
>I would prefer being able to, say, put an AR with a mag in but no round chambered under my bed at night
Yeah, and then Jimmy your three year old kid can blow his brains out like a fucktard while you drink stubbies on the porch with your trailer trash friends daydreaming about the day you'll get to go ham on those filthy niggers who emasculated you that one time.
One of these scenarios is vastly more likely than the other, and you only need to look at US statistics to see that the most likely victim of a gun in the home is the owner or his family.
>but i'm not retarded
Sure you aren't. But even if you aren't, most people are. Society isn't about who can succeed the best as an individual and fuck the rest. That's the opposite of society. Society is about the best and brightest having an anchor tied to their feet and drowning under the mediocrity of the masses as laws are written for Joe Blogs who isn't actually mentally disabled but he's definitely not a genius.
Maybe one day you will be raped and murdered by home invaders and maybe the fraction of a moment less time it would have taken for you to fall out of bed and find your AR under the bedframe might have saved your life. But probably not. And even if you do get killed, more people are saved under these laws anyway by preventing accidental gun deaths and gun theft.
You want to be able to defend yourself? Tough luck. The law doesn't allow that, because the law is written for retards, not for you.
>you have to be able to get your gun instantly in a home invasion!!!
Buy a more defensible house, then. Or sleep in a vault. If you're so fucking terrified you'll make the sacrifice. But you don't want to make the sacrifice. You want the rest of Australia to sacrifice their relatively gun-free society so that you can feel safer. Why do the feelings of a minority outweigh the feelings of the majority? You're both pursuing the same thing - the feeling of safety?
2/10 shit arguments, head them before.
The day of the rope is never coming and you know it. You're like the Socialist Alternative desperados masturbating to the "impending" commie uprising.
QQ more you impotent hunk of spunk.
it would take me less than seven seconds to load my shotgun ,pump and switch the safety off you obviously do not own a gun or you have an old timey blunderbuss
Pump action shotguns are restricted in Australia. Cat C, which most people can't get.
Street criminals can already get guns easily, do you think weed dealers and other drug dealers have no connections? Pretty much every drug that isn't shitty meth or shit weed is imported from overseas by organized crime.
And lunatics will figure out how to kill people regardless. The boston bombers took over 100 people out with pressure cookers, the 9/11 hijackers took out 3,000 with boxcutters. A gun isn't exactly hard to find or manufacture either, despite popular belief.
>Yeah, and then Jimmy your three year old kid can blow his brains out like a fucktard
Nice meme. Just because I want a gun to protect myself doesn't mean I'm a fuckwit with no responsibility.
>US statistics
Drop over to /k/ and ask the friendly people over there about that.
>Society is about the best and brightest having an anchor tied to their feet
>And even if you do get killed, more people are saved under these laws anyway by preventing accidental gun deaths and gun theft.
>You want to be able to defend yourself? Tough luck.
Truthfully, go fuck yourself. I will defend myself if I fucking want to, you little communist pile of shit.
>Buy a more defensible house, then
Again, go fuck yourself.
>You want the rest of Australia to sacrifice their relatively gun-free society so that you can feel safer.
Again, go over to /k/. You're incredibly misinformed.
>You're both pursuing the same thing - the feeling of safety?
No, not the feeling of safety. I'm pursuing actual safety. The only way to attain safety is to protect it, and I'm in no position to do so with a fucking spoon.
Clearly you've never actually needed to defend yourself, and most likely you've never actually considered WHY people might need lethal weapons to defend themselves, or protect others. You've lived such a cushioned life you have completely forsaken the very idea of liberty and freedom, which all civilization is built on. And for that I feel sorry for you.
keep reading.
You don't think the criminal element already has them?
Are you fucking stupid or what?
Didn't you guys lose to a fucking island?
It's not about compromising the feeling of safety of a gun free society, it's the human rights issue of whether a person has the right to self defender, your precious fee-fees come second
>Just because I want a gun to protect myself doesn't mean I'm a fuckwit with no responsibility.
I thought I made this adequately clear but I'll say it again for your fuckwit brain: laws do not only affect you. A law made for you affects everybody who isn't you as well. This is what rule of law means.
Even if you aren't a fuckwit, which I seriously doubt, the vast majority of people who will be buying guns are.
>Drop over to /k/ and ask the friendly people over there about that.
Instead I'll ask you, because you're the one I'm arguing about. Constrain your remarks to accidental gun deaths and theft only, because that's what I mentioned.
>I will defend myself if I fucking want to
Enjoy 14 years in prison for unlawful possession of a firearm, criminal scum.
>I'm pursuing actual safety
Then you should be aware it is objectively more likely that you will kill yourself or someone you love than a home intruder.
>but i'm not a retard
Mmhmm.
>You've lived such a cushioned life you have completely forsaken the very idea of liberty and freedom, which all civilization is built on.
How about you head on over to and get some fucking learning in to you. Liberty and freedom are the antithesis of government and society.
>human rights
Don't exist.
Next question.
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Nah, guns are great. My family has been shooters for generations and never harmed anyone. My friends and I all shoot skeet etc. It's a part of our lives that cant be replaced by whatever shitty hobby you people have.
Why can't you just let us have our guns and leave us in peace?
Hey fattie, not all of us.
I have firearms, and be fucked if they are taking them.
You are the exact type of social-engineering cancer that causes massive societal problems.
Reading all your posts, you essentially argue that the incapability of the average person should dictate the consistent lowering the bar of rights and priveleges of all persons.
Since 70% of people are retards, the "Government" should dictate policies over all 100% of people to ensure the safety and baby-food lifestyle of that 70%, at the expense of the 30% of competent citizens.
We should strive to lower the 70% and uplift the 30%, not encourage everyone to be a mediocre retard in a government-issued onesie sipping juicy-juice from a fucking sippy-cup because anything else might be dangerous.
You're literally the progressivist cancer that is eating away at the soul of most cultures, you socialist fuck.
I believed what you believe, once.
Then I got a job.
Far more important than rights and freedumbs and all your bullshit is that there is food on the table and water in the tap. Society is three days without power from collapsing. You can't eat your principles, and your principles in particular actively hamper production and stability for the rest of us.
You are like a tiny, tumorous mass spewing out honeyed words and visions of a utopian society where everything is perfect and nobody has to compromise, where markets are free and the people are freer and the successful deserve it and so do the poor, and other horseshit. Where the smart people and the retards can be easily determined and we can predict perfectly who won't shoot their kid or be shot by their kid and only give those guys guns. It's retarded, and if you can't see it you're retarded too.
If you ate today, and you'll eat tomorrow, you've got it better than 99% of all the people who ever lived, and most people who are alive today. Everything else is pointless minutiae that's barely even worth thinking about. Perfect society will never exist. This society exists, and it's foolish to ruin it in the pursuit of some nebulous dream when we have everything we need right here.
Yeah except I'm in my mid fourties, mid career, been working since I was 15 and had to live on my own.
You're just talking out of your ass now, due to a lack of actual coherent arguments in the face of your horseshit social engineering garbage being called out.
People like you will only open your eyes when cultural enrichment happens to your loved ones. When your children are butchered in front of you by monsters that you could've had a hand in stopping, but chose not to. And if you don't believe those monsters exist, you're naieve and have lived in a comfortable first world echo chamber your entire life.
There's no correlation between firearms and murder rate, let alone a causation
Doesn't matter what you "think"
By all means feel like you're safer because of the laws. You aren't by science, though.
Choose your future
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It is against the Natural Law to deny a man the means to protect his family and his home from criminals. The noumenal concept of Justice that lives inside the mind of every intelligent creature demands that the Australian government disestablish these immoral gun control laws.
The problem is that British-based institutions have a totalitarian streak in them that goes back to the reign of King Henry VIII and Queen Elizabeth I.
Why do the shit bait threads always get so many replies?
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>Yeah except I'm in my mid fourties, mid career, been working since I was 15 and had to live on my own.
Yeah, and I'm Malcom Turntbull.
Sadly if you're telling the truth it means you never outgrew your edgy adolescence, probably because you're a fuckwit. Enjoy your increasing social isolation as your peers reject your social dogma and you are reduced to seeking meaningful social interaction on Sup Forums where you can associate with people on your intellectual level without having to face the fact that the majority of users here are underage and that, consequently, you belong in the kiddy-pool of social interaction.
Fortunately for you none of the above is true because you're not in your mid "fourties" (that's not how you spell forty you fucking mong) and you haven't even begun a career, but it is a depressing glimpse into your future if you don't grow the fuck up, son.
Anyway, I'm trying to engage in social engineering? I'm the conservative, here. You're the only one who wants to change the law. You're the only one who wants to move away from our Westminster pragmatism to a hellish American Lockean retardublic. You're the one who wants to charge full pelt at the Sisyphean task of bringing about your heaven on Earth utopia.
>When your children are butchered in front of you by monsters that you could've had a hand in stopping
Statistically it's more likely that they'll kill themselves with my gun. I guess that makes me the monster?
Well, I suppose that in this hypothetical it would actually be you.
You're a fuckwit, yes, but I don't think I'd go so far as to call you a monster. Don't be so hard on yourself.
Aren't there still a shit ton of guns in Australia and that gun laws had pretty much no effect on the overall violence there?
I remember reading that in the 10 years before the gun ban over 300,000 SKS rifles were imported and only around 10,000 were ever turned in.
>anti gun fag
>Australia
I have no problem with this
Last time I was in Gladstone I made four SMGs in my cousin's machine shop with his kids. My own design, dead simple. A child could do it. Two children did do it.
I might go back to Australia, start cranking them out, and just dump them in the streets at night to see what happens, because honestly, I hate being told what to do, and pissing in the face of a government that tries is always fun.
It really bothers me that a country like Australia with huge stretches of land and nature with deadly fucking animals would be so anti-gun.
If Australia had gun laws as good as the US then it would be the perfect country.
seriously, they have spiders that would be considered big game
>Serf projecting this hard
It's called a gun save, convict. Your government views you as an obedient peasant useful only for tax revenue, and it is correct.
The overwhelming majority of unalwfully possessed guns in Australia are stolen. About 1800-2000 per year.
If citizens were capable of safely storing their weapons without government interference we wouldn't have a problem at all, but that is objectively not the case.
Guns safes are a reasonable precaution.
I'm sure criminals also steal a lot of other things that get used in more crimes. Does that mean we should ban everything because someone might steal it?
The current laws are fine until they start importing achmed and his mates. Also, the self defense laws are bullshit, but i wouldnt mind so much if the police werent so fucking useless. Everytime the police use their guns, they shoot some innocent person. Once again, this is what happens when you have a "diverse" police force.
>a hammer is the same as a gun
>And if you don't believe those monsters exist, you're naieve and have lived in a comfortable first world echo chamber your entire life.
I don't think anyone, especially if they are posting here; thinks that these monsters don't exist. It's almost as if different countries have different problems and require different solutions.
America is too far gone for gun control to have any effect at this point, for Australia, it was the right time.
Any Australian who wants guns is either a shitskin, or a spineless faggot who needs to fuck off to America and get shot.
No, you're a full blown leftie faggot.
>Perfect country
>Already better than US
> Finland doesn't even get an opinion due to being too inferior ()
Any Australian who is against guns is an inner city faggot and should stay in Sydney/Melbourne forever and leave actual Australians the fuck alone.
The projection and indoctrination are strong in this one. Let this lost cause be culturally enriched by abos
OP here.
You guys fall for bait so easily, it's amazing what you can do with a proxy. Continue to talk, I've already slid the thread I needed to.
Thank you for helping me, and us, Correct the Record.
Have a nice day. :)