Should women be allowed to vote though?

Should women be allowed to vote though?

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The world was best when only Tax-paying, land owners could vote

Of course not, user.

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Should? If you phrase it like that?

Of course not. It's detrimental to society. It's one of the reasons that leftism even exists in our society or at least is allowed to hold positions of power.

Nope
Look at what they do when they get in politics and positions of power.

Liberalism through the butthole, their SJW-nature infects everything.

That's why St Paul said he doesn't want women in positions of power in church

females aren't the problem, though they are a part of it

You're entirely right, Jews should never be allowed to vote.

Reintroduce monarchy and aristocracy. By that I don't mean the old aristocracy and monarchy, they have been corrupted centuries ago.
A new imperial line, and a new aristocracy are needed.

>A fascist take over of the US
>successful seccession of the US
>Long term social change

Those are the only ways to revert back to the good ol days when only men could vote.

No, who would even ask such a question.

>democracy

this is why we have a republic, or had. it was lost long ago.

not for the reason that they are women

>didn't even use hordes of niggers for the pic on the right

You're retarded.

>Democracy

Probably not, but I mostly blame the democratic party for virtue signaling as well as liberal public education.

Maybe they do disproportionately vote democrat, but all minorities disproportionately vote democrat.

>Reintroduce monarchy and aristocracy.
I mean it's better than what we have now and could strengthen borders. The technological factor is much higher than when those were used though. Unless it was like The Venus Project under a resource based economy. Certainly what we have now does not work.

You had a chance in 1936 with William Dudley Pelley and you chose FDR instead, shame on you America.

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Yes.

Nothing to do until a civil war or a societal collapse happens. For now all we can do is to speed up the collapse.

No, only people should be able to vote. Non-person humanoids should not have the rights of persons.

Only people who can make decisions for the greater good (as in not just selfish decisions with their own interest being top priority) should be able to vote and that excludes women.

Haha nah

only if they own property (i.e. land)

Why is the Jew voting?

Women are inherently communist

They want open borders and open legs because they feel sorry for their rapist because he's just from a different culture

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only some of the elites must decide the future of the country, democrasy is a big fucking joke
best way is a parliament which members comes from elite blood with pure patriotic point of view
not just women, lots of people votes are just a big joke

Honestly, this. Women are a particularly unreasonable and emotional group of people, but the idea of universal suffrage is terrible anyway.

I agree 100%. (french) Absolute monarchy was the best system ever. Filthy capitalists need to be punished by the law of god.
#borntoreign
>Jews should never be allowed to live
Fixed

>Pure patriotic blood

Say hello to the sorts of inbreeding that puts the Habsburgs to shame.
Also do you really want to turn to the Dark Ages again Turk ~Senpai?

>inb4 Habsburgs

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I want to interject. The period refered as "Dark" age is because ((someone)) did burn the majority of the document relating this time so we do'nt know much about it. It wasn't bad at all by any meaning. It was probably better than now.

The idea of people ruling cause of blood is good because they can't be corrupted easily. When you're born to rule you have the mission of giving to your son, the next leader, a good country. This is why monarchy is good, this is why ((they)) do'nt like it.
>habsburg
nani? I don't speak burger.

Women gaining the vote isn't what led us on this dark path, men will always fold to women's demands because we're biologically trained to do so, regardless of the actual political power they wield. Women are our soft spot. What's happened is we gave them an inch, so they ask for a mile.

Watch this video, it's pretty enlightening:
youtube.com/watch?v=-UJRzZABCoY

If I didn't hate Islam so much we would make great friends and would agree about many things, however I will never submit to your God or your Sharia.

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they are easily manipulated by what they perceive to be popular opinion.

Seriously. People may have been poorer in general, but they certainly had more free time for themselves and family. It wasn't a constant grind for most. We are the hardest working people the world has ever seen.

>because ((someone)) did burn the majority of the documents
Muslims.

The little ice age didn't help either.

>men will always fold to women's demands

Then how did men sufficiently dominate women for most of human history? Those men would fucking wipe the floor with modern "men". Even the most dominant men these days are effeminate servile faggots when it comes to women.

>monarchy is good
Explain Kim Jong Un then

im agnostic
pure blood, fully patriotic people* (correction)
i hate emotional creatures

I'm pretty sure we are biologically made to overpower women and rape them. We stopped doing it of course because we are not niggers.... still we gave woman too much say, they are too stupid to have ultimate freedom and equality to men, they will only ruin things (as we keep seeing.)

>Then how did men sufficiently dominate women for most of human history?
Worked to attract them and protected them while they got to have children. Now women have considered themselves an oppressed class and men want to liberate them by lowering themselves to their level.

>im agnostic
What is Taqiya for 100, Alex.

I used the term in more chronological meaning (refering to a time period), in this context let's just bunch the time where monarchies were most prominent.

>The idea of people ruling cause of blood is good because they can't be corrupted easily. When you're born to rule you have the mission of giving your son, the next leader, a good country. This is why monarchy is good, this is why (((they))) don't like it.

This could apply to an oligarchy of jews in the way you prescribe it but I'll let that slide. Monarchies are flawed as the ruler essentially owns you and anyone within the boundaries of his own land, thus nationalism is a non-existent concept. Monarchies often lead to succesion wars and crisises because of a the Monarch dying and not leaving a heir or retarded succesion law being in place.

The best arguments that can be made against monarchies is the studying of China, you will notice a general cycle that every time a new dynasty came to rule it was very effective and zealous but over time decayed and became similar to the previous ones.

Funnily enough, this is also spotted in many Middle Eastern scenarios too, and shows the flaws of Monarchy plain for everyone to see.

The last point I'll make is that Monarchs are always globalist because they benefit tons from it, the Habsburgs of Austria being a key example of this.

> What are Habsburgs

Habsburgs were a royal family from Austria that through diplomacy, wars, Jewing and other schemes were able to dominate most of mainland Europe.

Look them up in your language to read more on them.

Women's suffrage has a direct correlation with welfare States. All around the world nations became welfare states within a decade of giving women the right to vote

Nice try, Muhammad, but Islam has been nothing but a blight on this world and an enemy of the west since its inception.

If I'm moehamhead then explain why I drew this?

also you're illiterate and Muslims don't claim to hate Islam.

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I posted this in the misogyny thread, but it is more relevant here:

I used to be as pro-freedom as they come. But the more I look at the world, the more I become convinced that mankind is not ready for freedom. It is chaos.

Just look at all the people who can't manage their lives without government handouts (and sometimes even with them). Just look at them and know their vote counts for the same as yours. Just know that they are given preferences over you.

To the topic, yes, it was a mistake to give women the vote. The liberal policies that stir their emotions (for very few operate on reason), are directly responsible to the now all-but-assured destruction of western civilization.

I am an atheist, but I am forced to acknowledge that the only framework that presently seems to be capable of eventually constructing a tolerable government for humanity is Islam. I think many see the writing on the wall. They are going to win. The west has lost the will to fight. There is nothing to fight *for*. Women have seen to the destruction of all the institutions we might be proud to take part of. Globalists have systematically obliterated pride in one's nation.

I think mankind's only hope is unity through Islam, and that eventually we will responsibly grow out of it whilst maintaining many of it's conservative principals.

Where democracy fails is that we are most certainly not all equal, and anything based off of trying to enforce that fallacy flies in the face of biology and is doomed to fail. And so we are watching it happen now.

>kim jong
>not fuckign based
Actually, nationalism was a strong concept in middle age France, I admit not knowing much about other monarchy. In the french one, the church had more power than the king which made it the greatest country that ever existed. The power of this one is that the king actually don't do much and the church did most of the work to hold everyone together particularly with moral and justice. Great kings are rare, I can only think of Louis 13 in my history.
>the Monarch dying and not leaving a heir
No. There is aways someone in the royal family to rule even if it's not a heir. About china, yes, it was a terrible blood spilling monarchy but once again they wasn't led by catholic church.

ISIS will behead you soon enough

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assemblywomen

Even since the times of the Greeks, women never changed in their nature

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrison_Bergeron_(film)
Yep Egalitarianism is shit.
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should be literacy tests

I dare them to try.

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>I am an atheist, but I am forced to acknowledge that the only framework that presently seems to be capable of eventually constructing a tolerable government for humanity is Islam.
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It's probably because when women start to get things going their way, everything starts to go to shit, and the civilisation either falls or the men have to step in, like that old Greek play, or what happened to that one society in Turkey (I think that's where it was), that eventually got overrun by Muslims.

If you watch the video, he explains that the rights openly afforded to women after the vote, they pretty much already had before it, they just didn't have much of a say in politics. For example he sites a divorce case from the 19th century where the mother still gets custody of the child. Not all that much changed once they got the vote. The changes came during the black civil rights movement half a century later. Feminists, who had basically already gained what they had demanded, saw all the attention blacks and later gays were getting and said "we want a piece of that". The pill was also invented around the same time. Pill use, abortions and divorces increased over time, giving women more control over their bodies and lives, and meaning they had to increasingly depend on the state for welfare. It's basically been a runaway process since then.

The bigger changes are technological. We already know what damage the pill did. More recently with the internet and smart phones and social media, information and ideas can be spread dangerously easily. He doesn't go into that in the video, but I think it's no coincidence that the 90s were relatively calm and friendly... and then the internet came along and everything turned to shit.

The problem is not with women voting, the problem is with voting itself.

Nationalism evolved naturally in France because of French thinkers, it was one of the main reasons why France became a military power.

Monarchs are inherently globalist.

Nope

>I am an atheist, but I am forced to acknowledge that the only framework that presently seems to be capable of eventually constructing a tolerable government for humanity is Islam.
Christianity worked for this just as well as Islam. Islamic countries are shitholes, while Christian countries advanced at a steady pace. The problem is we've reached a point where everyone in the west is so smart they naturally come to the conclusion that religion is nonsense, and start to loosen their morals. Atheism is what's killed us.

I feel like it needs way more hair on the legs

>jew
>honest hardworking rural Christian

Look at canada they literally voted trudeau because he was good looking women shouldn't be allowed to vote.

>so smart

They aren't smart at all. They're intelligent enough to read and feel pride in their little education and wealthy enough that praying to God for a better life seems pointless.

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Women in western society now get all the benefits of feminism and chivalry, combined, and many people are pissed off that men, especially younger white guys, are starting to realize how hard men have it and they are starting to opt out of doing what they are told. I don't see any other way at this point other than for young guys to make it clear that they are dissatisfied with the current status quo. That's the only way things will change while civilization can carry on.

>Atheism is what's killed us.
then
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We can tie in bits of Christianity and Buddhism in there too

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Truth. Women are dumb

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>'smart'

>the internet came along and everything turned to shit

More like, the internet came along and then Sup Forums saved the world

>Scientific person
>Hard working rural guy
>Equal to niggers

Islam is, what, 600 years late to the game by comparison? I am no religious scholar, as I view them as little more than collections of fairy tales. But if you look at Christianity, the New Testament changes gears completely from the old. The fiery god who smote cities was replaced with a loving, forgiving god, and that message eventually weakened the whole.

Islam is brilliantly militarized and virulent. It seems to have been tailor made for world conquest and that is why it is so successful. One can only assume that its creators learned a great deal from the earlier Abrahamic iterations and corrected many of the mistakes that they saw there, but keeping the 'best' parts.

Trust me, I would prefer a mankind united around logic and reason, but still with compassion and empathy. But the closest we got to trying that was socialism and we all know how *that* worked.

I may sounds like an Islamic apologist, but I'm not. They simply have a good formula in a world full of bad ones. A good formula exploits all of mankind's tendencies and weakness, taking them into account and building sensible rules around them. Everything else we've tried flies in the face of biology and human nature.

The Constitution was a successful document because it accounted for mankind's failings and greedy nature. But that was allowed to evolve and as it did so it began to undermine itself. That then was used as a framework for the eventual near complete destruction of the original meanings and intent.

While it may seem paradoxical, one of Islam's strengths is that it doesn't evolve with the times. And that is a strength because while yes, we do evolve, we don't do so on at a speed that will outstrip their message. As an organism, man from 1400 years ago is still the same as one of today. With the same base needs and self-interests.

I think if the Muslims ever solve their sectarian schism, they will truly be a force to be reckoned with.

The bible itself warns against putting women in positions of priesthood

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That's only because of how shitty the understanding is, though. A lot of atheists genuinely think that God is a person in the sky, or that you have to believe Genesis as literal (hint: there are two creation stories side-by-side in Genesis alone), or that you can't accept evolution.

Atheism is what's killing us, yes. We know that. No atheistic society survives more than a few generations. It needs big government to keep its population going as well.

Not to mention that atheism is self-defeating when you look into it after a while anyway. Most arguments from hardcore atheists are fallacious at best, or just insults. That's why new atheism is increasing: attacks and everyone pretending that they are smarter because atheism = science. We know that's not true.

Literally the only way to save our continent is to come back to faith. Europe will see religion again, it's just a question of whether it's Europeans and Christianity, keeping our culture that we have had for the longest time, or whether it's Africans and Middle-Easterners with Islam.

I don't want our descendants to be ruled under Islam and purged. I don't want them to look at the ruins of St Paul's Cathedral, or Notre Dame, Cologne, or many others as interesting trinkets of their "before years".

I need your help, though. The only way we can win this is through faith.

The people in power still cater to women though. If white men start getting aggressive and riot, well then that's "proof that we still need feminism". If we try our hardest to spread information and redpill politicians, that's still "proof we still need feminism".

Recently here in the UK a politician has been campaigning for men's rights. He's been making points about how women get a slap on the wrist for crimes that put men away for years, that divorce rates are high and men always lose out, that male suicide is ridiculously high, that boys are failing in schools. All these things get ignored. He brought this up to a committee in parliament and the one female politician on the committee scoffed at him and said something to the effect of "you see how many women are sat that this table? Women are still worse off" and I get the impression the board agreed with her.

In one speech he said "feminist zealots want to have their cake and eat it too", this sparked outrage on twitter and fat feminists started posting selfies of themselves eating cake, apparently completely misunderstanding the idiom.

I don't think we can win at this.

You're right, user.
Paul saw what happened firsthand at some churches in the region, I believe.

Look at what's happening with Anglican and so on churches with women in charge. Then look at Eastern Orthodoxy.

Here's the reason why

You should never grant the vote to people that are not eligible for the draft, period.

Because women will never bear the brunt of the consequences, their view of reality is forever warped by their biological and cultural egotism.

Yes it was a massive msitake, made possible by the whims of christian/humanist principles of absolute equality/universal salvation.

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Dude who the fuck cares about some fatties eating cake. Fuck them in their fat mouths.

Go buy a wife from a Mormon family you'll be fine, unless you're a poor fag, then you can just die.... soon... please, because you're bringing everyone down.

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>Should women be allowed to vote though?
No, absolutely not. It's a worse idea than allowing children, who are at least a minority and likely to listen to their fathers, to vote.
1) Physically, the relative development of men's and women's brains, and consequent performance, is comparable to that of the rest of their bodies: an inferior capacity for reason.
2) Psychologically, women have a number of inborn safeguards to prevent them from judging too harshly or entering into open conflict: an inclination to deviate from rational judgement.
3) Socially, women are inclined to signal their femininity and status by showing off how distinctively unmanlike their thoughts and feelings are, and how sheltered from reality they can get away with being: a tendency to make extravagant displays of unreasonableness.

Giving people the vote is not something like "allowing them to participate in the debate and struggle to determine the direction of society", it's handing them the reigns of power absolutely irrespective of their strength or confidence, asking them to direct society in secret and with total impunity, regardless of whether they would shy away from any conflict or emotionally troubling information. It doesn't invite them to enter the arena of ideas, it invites them to lounge in the bleachers and order executions.

They are way too cute to be given power, even suffrage

You mean Phillip Davies? Yeah, that guy is awesome. He has the balls to say what almost nobody alive in western society dares to say. On the internet or in real life, it's taboo in both spheres to mention men's issues or criticize women at all.

Women shouldn't be allowed to vote, because women typically don't know and / or don't care about politics, history, science, logic, philosophy, etc. as men do. These sort of decisions should be left to men.

Imagine if I went into the ER when the doctors were performing an open-heart surgery on someone. I have no medical training, I don't know how to perform a surgery, I don't know anything about it. But imagine if I started trying to tell them what to do. Should they take what I'm saying seriously, or is it more appropriate to tell me to get the fuck out?

I think many of us here feel that an at least partial reset is coming down the pike. And soon. There will be a lot of misery and death because of it, but it will be an opportunity to correct centuries if not millennia of cumulative mistakes. Though those corrections will be paid for in blood. It will be both interesting and terrifying to see what exactly will fill the vacuums left behind by the fall.

One reason I see Islam doing so well is that most of their people are already used to living without modern amenities. You could crash the global economy and drop EMPs all over the planet and they'd hardly notice. Meanwhile everywhere else would see slaughter in the streets and mass starvation. All they would have to do would be to march in and pick up the pieces. Any unified body will be able to impose its will in such chaos. In fact it would probably be welcomed.

We are on the cusp of a new dark age, I fear. One where mankind will take a huge leap backwards. We have come far, but we have gotten here too fast. I think this quote (which I heard in Civ V) from MLK is poignant:
"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."

Everything is out of balance and we can feel it in our bones. That is why so many are so comfortable, but are so absolutely unhappy in life. Well, that comfort is going to go away soon. Maybe tomorrow, maybe a few years from now. In the slaughter that will follow a collapse, we will either learn what it is to be men again or we will die.

No one should be allowed to vote. The world should be under the totalitarian rule of an artificial intelligence, bereft of emotion or bias, dedicated to the advancement and proliferation of the human species.

Id be happy with not being allowed to vote but in return I would expect to be given an annuity by the government until I was married. Men would also have to have a legal responsibility to look after and support their wives.

Also not all men would be allowed to vote. Only those who had contributed to society past a certain threshold.

So Britain prior to 1920 then

This will happen except the part about the AI giving a shit about us. Why would an immortal machine god care about vermin beyond recognizing us as a dangerous liability?

Only persons that served a tour of duty, own propriety and have kids may vote.

I know many redpilled women, more than redpilled men (which is a real shame), so I would say yes.

>I am such a weak faggot I need to make a god machine to rule over me

Gas thy self.

Because you program it to. Don't think too simply about AI, there are different levels of intelligence it could be at. It needn't necessarily be sentient and it needn't necessarily turn evil.

exactly, jews shouldnt be able to vote.

>females aren't the problem
I have meme images too.