White Nationalist?

How do you actually plan on forming the white ethno-state? First, you would have to convince a majority of whites about your idea. Which on its own is near impossible.

Assume you did do that? What next? The US is 40% minority. How do you plan on getting rid of them? There's no way they are leaving willingly and good luck if you think you can genocide 100 million+ people.

The only feasable plan would be to succeed a majority white area from the United States. The problem is by doing this you would cease to be a superpower. All the majority white areas are not strategic points. The mass migration and relocation would probably create 3rd world conditions. The lack of economy would cause people to suffer.


So tell me how do you plan on making it work?

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Why are you asking us?

It's too late for me, but I think young Europeans should prepare for an exodus to Eastern Europe and a retrenching to prepare for re-re-reconquista.

Left to their own devices the people we are being replaced with will collapse the economies, then they and the kikes will try to repeat the same song and dance in the east.

The new generation of whites at that point has to be ready, with enough weapons to ensure the kikes don't interfere. Or in other words, weapons capable of destroying the world.

Are you seriously suggesting that Whites should sacrifice their entire race to keep up first world economic conditions in America? Do you really have this much self hatred, or are you a nonwhite yourself?

>succeed

Well, yes, but also to secede.

Immediately being a superpower isn't really important, and many white people wouldn't relocate to the new ethnostate...they like their diversity, so they can have it.

Shit. I had forgotten that El Sapo Pepe was a thing when I was young! I don't know who these bitches are though.

No genuis. The economic argument is accessory. the main argument is that it is not logistically feasible.

>First, you would have to convince a majority of whites about your idea

Why?

>He was created in 1988
>1988
>88

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You don't need to get the majority of whites on board. If even 10% were, that's 22million people. People who care about identity and their civilization wouldn't mind not being a superpower if it ensures their grandchildren don't grow up in Brazil.

Checked. You would have to convince enough people for it to be feasible. To form the ethnostate you would need to secede which wouldn't even be possible without a good chunk of the population on your side.

I just wanted clarification. It never ceases to amaze me how resentful shitskins are of their betters.

10% isn't enough unless they rise up in armed rebellion.

OPs right though, that's literally never gonna happen, especially since you'll have to be convincing the younger generations.

I dislike minorities more than anyone but I'm not interested in white nationalism in the least. So if you can't a young person like me you'll be hard pressed getting the numbers you need.

>american
>white
pick one.

>You would have to convince enough people for it to be feasible.
Yes, but what makes you think that only the majority is "enough"?

>10% isn't enough unless
>unless

Well, there you go.

I always enjoy how white nationalist will claim anarcho-capism or communism isn't feasable, but they think creating a purely white ethno-state is realisic.

They would become a superpower in one or two generations. A mulattoized America could never compete with a white ethnostate, any more than the world could compete with Brits during their height.

Inorder to have the political power and/or will to do it you would need a mandate. Since whites are already only 60% of the population you would need atleast 30% of them before it became a serious option.

>Well, there you go.
If you think an armed rebellion by only 10% of the population is going to work good luck to you.

>If you think an armed rebellion by only 10% of the population is going to work good luck to you.

Didn't you BTFO the Brits with only 3%

>you would need atleast 30%

Why? This isn't something that's voted on, guy. It's something that's simply done.

The US will Balkanize in our lifetime. You'd be a fool to not realize our political and social climate are at a breaking point.

Actually younger generations are more extreme, the idea that a country of over 300million people from vastly different backgrounds post-65 will be content to be ruled over by the majority is hilarious.

The Republican Party itself is 90% white, over 50% of blacks and Hispanics would describe Trump as Hitler, BLM has killed police multiple times this year.

Things have become progressively more extreme as we've gotten more diverse. Do you think this will stop? I would remind you that it is the younger leftists who are preaching anti-white rhetoric, not the older ones.

it's pretty arrogant to say something will never happen when the American experiment of massive demographic shift has never succeeded.

The Brits never really put their full force behind the conflict. IF Britain had wanted to it would have crushed the union.

Which means you would need even more people than if you were just voting.

Again, why?

Are you seriously not thinking his point?
The economy is obviously an important factor in a country.

If you want any chance of it succeeding you need as many people as possible. to few people and it dies out as a movement or is seen as to fringe to be taken seriously. A white ethnostate movement would probably be the biggest political "movement"/idea in terms of complexity in the last 200 years.

Why do you assume that our enemies will put their full force behind the conflict? Just divide them like they do with us so that they're busy.

I would argue that Israel as a Jewish ethnostate in the Middle East was much more complicated. Yet it was doable with very few people.

Good luck with that.

Yeah. A state that was formed by having a far more militarily superior state come in and kick people out is totally comparable.

Plus Israel is like 30% non-jewish. Not really a succesful ethno-state.

Also to add on to this, the left is becoming just as much about identity politics. Look at them succeeding in getting black only areas in universities. Lots of them see whites as a burden and might be persuaded into going their separate ways.

>How do you plan on getting rid of them?
portals

are you denying the holocaust?

I take it that your entire purpose here is spreading defeatism?

What's the point of this thread other than getting us to give up?

I didn't say their plan was any more likely to succeed.

>How do you plan on getting rid of them?
Gee IDK.

They still plan to cleanse it at some point, but they can't do it while still milking their hollycaust status.

The holocaust, assuming we take maximum figures as true. killed only about 12 million people. Unarmed people. Before the internet or true mass media. Good luck trying anything even remotely similar today. Also most white nationalist aren't pro-genocide so good luck convincing even them.

It's only defeatist if it was actually feasible to begin with.

Thanks for admitting that that's your modus operanti.

Now fuck off.

Good luck with that. The moment they cleanse palestine is the moment jews cease to exist. All the surrounding Arab states would destroy them.

The only way is for a pandemic or complete worldwide economic collapse. I pray for these everyday tbqh. If you're competing for resources who are you going to kill? Your white neighbor James or the brown invader Sadiq?

Listen. If a kid with no hand or legs came up to me and said he wants to be an astronaut. Would you consider it defeatist of me to tell him that's not going to happen?

I don't want a purely white ethnic-America, I just wanna remove the inbred shitskins who are trying to make us a third world country like you.

>$5.00 added to your account

What if your neighbor is the brown guy sadiq and the invader is the white guy Anatoli.

Looking at how kids are

You do realize Muslims in America are one of the richest, most successful, and most educated minority groups. Pretty much every religious and ethnic minority, except for blacks and hispanics, in America is more successful than whites.

>Italians
>White

But still, the Bronx Sicillians are more trustworthy than the pedo Arabs in Queens.

We just need to completely cut off their gibs. Then they will go to canada

Exactly. It's far more feasible to just heavily censor urban culture and enact what one call "a second enlightenment" in order to reform society to an extremely disciplined one and structured one free of degeneracy (which is possible DESU, it just requires a purge of Hollywood, SJW and BLM).

Essentially, it's cheaper and more profitable to push the IQ of minorities in America up to 90 or 95 in their own specialized and super disciplined education system than it is to genocide them all.

There's a lot to gain. Pursuing a solution that isn't feasible means you aren't committing time to one that is. In the end you are worse off.

so it's just a matter of scale?

If Sadiq is a mudslime he's an invader too.

If Anatoli came to clean my land of mudslimes he's a temporary ally.

Hahaha, yeah sure kid. Next you're gonna tell me Pajeet and Abdul down the block from me our blowing up their cars as part of an engineering project

>First, you would have to convince a majority of whites about your idea.

no
Only needs a small amount of people committed to violence

>There's no way they are leaving willingly
They would if they were facing imprisonment, fines, confiscation, or death

Like what?

"As many people as possible" in no way suggests some arbitrary number like "you have to have 30%, you just have to!"

It's honestly like you're seeing this in some kind of static vacuum.

If we were talking about making legal motions to secede through Congress or something, sure, it would just be a fringe, not to be taken seriously. That's not what we're talking about. We're talking about the declaration of a white ethnostate in North America and the de facto existence of such an entity cannot be ignored as "fringe" once it occurs. It will be unable to be ignored.

Such a thing will only occur when a conducive set of circumstances comes to pass. We're not talking about "ok, everybody get your guns and march on the capitals of these particular states" in, again, some kind of static vacuum, but when (for example) America's debt/economy are out of hand, Aztlan is seething and social conditions make it worth the risk to more than just the most hardcore.

We don't need every white person on the continent to rise up in arms. We just need enough people willing to accept that this is a better option than nothing. And those people don't even need to be white.

Scale is the largest secondary problem. The primary problem is support and the will to actually do it.

because only the best get to come?

and because Whites are at the back of the queue in education, employment, promotion, scholarships etc? IN THEIR OWN FUCKING COUNTRY!

why do you support White geNOcide, anti-White?

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For you. For most white people who aren't racist they won't care. They'll pick whoever their current neighbor is.

Definitely in the colonial times you had massive populations of non-whites who accepted & embraced white rule
Of course thats why all those areas inevitably fell when liberalism kicked in, but in the short term you could have millions of black & hispanic allies to white nationalism.

Biological weapons are among the least persistent means of genocide. They are extremely hard to control and will often end up ravaging your own society in the end.

Also, a global pandemic won't help the "white race" on bit. European, non Hispanic, non american whites are already outnumbered by Africans worldwide by almost 2:1, and are expected to be outnumbered by 4:1 by 2050 and 7:1 by 2100. A pandemic would likely keep these rations but reduce the absolute numbers of each population even with theoretically higher death rates from said pandemic in Africa.

>succeed

Honestly I thought the plan was that once Trump comes into power, we'll have a much easier time arguing for White Nationalism.

At the very least, if any serious Sup Forumsback years down the road post Trump would have a much easier time going about it.

white nationalism is american made up bullshit.

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Keep in mind the muslim line doesn't distinguish between black and non-black muslims. Regardless, muslims are still more educated than pretty much every christian group except for orthodox.

>back of the queuee
Not really. You're just a retard.

Dude you live in poland. I could only dream of our white nationalist movements being as strong as yours

Polands movement isn't white nationalism. It's polish nationilism. If you're a white russian or Brit they don't like you.

It's almost like you actually need an H1B to cross the atlantic instead of just walking through turkey

>Keep in mind the muslim line doesn't distinguish between black and non-black muslims.

But we will make them, because it's pretty easy to divide people.

>In Hadith no.63,vol 1, it says: "When a man arrived at the mosque, he asked, "who amongst you is Muhammad?" The companions of the prophet replied "THIS WHITE MAN RECLINING ON HIS ARM".
Why do you worship the whyte debil, Tyrone?
>In Hadith no.436, vol 6, It says: when Umar came to visit Muhammad, he saw a "BLACK SLAVE OF ALLAH'S APOSTLE sitting on the first step" Ibn Qayyim alJawiyya, a great Muslim historian, wrote in his famous book Zad al-Ma'ad (part 1 pg 160): "Muhammad had many male and female slaves. He used to buy and sell them, but he purchased more than he sold, especially after God empowered him by his message, as well as after his immigration from Mecca. He once sold one black slave for two. His name was Jacob al-Mudbir".
He enslaved blacks like you, stay woke.

All the surrounding Arab states have tried to destroy them several times and it's never worked.

And you're forgetting that even if a miracle occured and they were winning a conventional war, Israel would know it was a war of extermination and they would initiate full nuclear commitment.

Regardless even if a minority of the group is successful in the states, that doesn't mean I'm going to let in the majority to blow up my town. And you're an idiot if you don't think all these terrorist attacks don't leave an impact on white people, or every non-Arab for that matter.

my ideology is basically stuff varg vikernessays , except im a christian so i dont really give a shit

Its 2016, genociding 100 mil is nothing.

I will commission Taytay to sing the national anthem, and be my first lady and eventually take the reins as god empress.
Kek willing everything else works out.

Economies don't succeed in majority non-white/non-east asian demographic countries. It really is that simple.

Collapse of the US economy is inevitable as long as minority numbers keep increasing and the white population keeps falling. If your ultimate concern is about the economy, you cannot deny the fact that the white population must remain a majority in order for it to be sustainable.

nice dodge

>why do you support White geNOcide, anti-White?

Either you choose a genocide of 100 mil or 6,5 bil

Checked. 6,5b sounds fine to me.

Secede not succeed, get it right.

All the pieces are there, you just need to play them right.


-The black on white crime rate is sky high, but doesn't get reported on for shit. (Start broadcasting nationally that a black woman used a blow torch to kill a little kid bc he was white)
-Constantly link hispanic populations with the cartel violence
-Get rid of white guilt. Start a campaign of pride or something
-Constantly attack your opponents, point out their motives (Aztlan, black secession, etc.)
-Do the jew tactic and scare your own kind into a corner to make them scared and angry

You really just need a propaganda campaign. If you ever got this started the non-whites would obviously chimp out and then give you plenty of material on "how violent they are and how much they hate America" which would only provide more support for your cause

Reservations. Men go in there ones, women go in there ones. Shit skins die out peacefully, problem solved.