Forgotten Languages Thread >Summing up: accepting simple explanations is rewarding, and creates pleasant feelings of understanding in an otherwise stressed society. XViS is a powerful tool for non-invasive psychological belief forming, encoding, and false memory formation. Society has never been so ready to accept specific distorted views of reality."
>"Memes allow to modify brain connectivity in specific ways, and to elicit neurodynamics processes that finally encode beliefs. We can so far force a target brain to filter incoming information the way we wish, and we can get that target brain to distort and transmits further the information we want to."
>"Conspiracy theory may be treated as a memeplex that is easily activated by various pieces of information, giving it meaning consistent with the memeplex responses. From neurobiological perspective learning requires adaptation, changing functional connectivity, adjusting physical structure of the brain. Learning is thus energy-consuming, requires effort that should be carried out only when there are potential benefits."
>"Social networking allows us to add new information to the existing pool of interacting memes, or attractor states - the so-called memeplex - which is then replicated further. As we control the information being fed, we obviously control what beliefs will finally be encoded in millions of brains"
>"Once a set of distorted memory states is entrenched it becomes a powerful force, attracting and distorting all information that has some associations with these states, creating even broader basins of attractors. Encoding of information in this way enhances the memeplex and is one of the reasons why conspiracy theories are so persistent."
>"Brain activity evoked by hearing or reading words evokes internal imagery at a high level of invariant, multimodal object recognition. Once all targeted brains share the same memes, truth management becomes an easy task"
>"We failed to encode alien abduction paradigm in other Western societies mainly due to the fact that we failed in deploying PSVs in those areas; the Rendlesham Forest experiment dramatically proved that only previously treated targeted brains were prone to interpret the experience the way we expected, while those untreated brains were immune. Same for black flying triangles, a meme we could not plant into European minds because cultural conditioning was - and is - working against us; actually, the conclusion drawn by neighboring countries was that the Belgian police and army are just naïve, if not straight stupid. Cultural rivalry was at work here."
>"Simple explanation of complex phenomena have thus a great advantage even when they are quite naïve, as long as they do not lead to behaviors that are obviously harmful, or significantly decrease chances for reproduction."
I'm going to take a wild guess (because google translate can be wildly wrong), but, it's a cypher based on rotation of words from various languages. Cut a single word, paste it into a translator, you get a specific language that the word is associated with. Cut the next word after it, it's a different language. Keep going and each word as it turns out registers as a different language.
Most likely there is a sequence that explains the language selection, and therefore, the word. I'm guessing that there is a table of languages and the key to this is knowing how to follow the correct sequence so that each language is chosen in correct order. This means you could in theory feed it English (or some other language) and through this translation process out pops the same text, with complete word substitutions. However, instead of a direct translation, things are made much, much harder by cycling through dozens and dozens of languages. Even a polyglot linguist would struggle to decode this...unless they had the program and the correct sequence (aka cryptokey) to decode the words by translation.
I suspect this would require a major effort without computerization, as you would have to round up native speakers from dozens of different countries.
its like cuneiform, in that it requires a special tool for making marks.
should look something like this
Gavin Lopez
It's even worse. Not sure if shim l user who answered my sociology question about the 100th monkey theory is here but thanks. I will read up on it
Connor Ross
Don't fall for this shit again. We just went through it 7 hours ago.
Angel Morgan
here.
anyone watch that yet? i'm sort of scared to.
John Hall
Based on multiple people digging over the past few hours:
The rough conclusion drawn is that the people who created this site are heavily involved with encoding and linguistics. The "gibberish" languages seen in some of the articles are in fact multiple languages, and often encrypted.
Some languages are extinct or otherwise esoteric in nature.
Many articles discuss the transfer of information to subjects using energy, light, frequency etc.
They have hundred of videos that have been created and are likely encoded with messages and secret messages.
Irish user during the BSE threads dropped the link to the site and since then it has gain considerable interest. This is however, not related to BSE. This site has been compiling content, commentary and research for 7 years or so.
Original thread investigating the site has tons of information and articles from the site.
Caleb Green
Ignore the weird 'shim I' typo, I'm on my phone. Swype can be a bitch
Levi Martinez
It is pretty unsettling actually. 15 seconds. go for it, don't know if it's encoded with anything so its at your own risk.
Kevin Harris
I don't care about the content (which made BSE into the shitstack that it was), I care about the cypher - which is novel. I don't think I've seen something like this tried before.
See for my thoughts on it. This is not some weird alien translation, and it hardly appears to be truly lost languages. I think this is just someone publishing shit for (a) their own in-crowd or (b) for shits and giggles, i.e. "look at me, I'm smart enough to encode this in front of you and you can't fucking read you illiterate cretins" etc. etc.
Aiden Sanchez
>reposting what is highly likely to be a cognitive virus
shit nigger what are you doing
Owen Parker
So they've been doing this for 7 years and creating dozens and dozens of videos for a good laugh? Probably not.
please see my thoughts in , this may just be an application of a novel way of cyphering. When you say extinct or esoteric, which languages are encountered?
Zachary Powell
Bumping for the best thread I've seen on Sup Forums since fbianon
Logan Gray
I recommending not watching the videos.
Read the last part of the previous thread.
Henry King
shut up fag.
Charles Smith
Is anyone capping the articles anons have posted? And the last thread too? I have a weird feeling that since we caught onto this that this site won't last long.
Blake Butler
>So they've been doing this for 7 years and creating dozens and dozens of videos for a good laugh? The concept presented in (a) would lend credence that it is merely a reference site for their own in-crowd. Site users would obviously have the correct program to translate the jumble-text back into the language of their choice, and the website would simply serve as a reference point, the same way you would go to a library and pull a book off the shelf after going through the index looking for a topic.
David Fisher
I watched 3 of them. Am I kill?
Landon Davis
I was the user with like 45 posts in the last thread
Jeremiah Taylor
Are we really entertaining the idea that those videos could cause physical harm? Subliminal messages are real but I think it's a stretch to say they could damage you physically
Noah Hall
keep a journal.
Samuel Smith
See:
Juan Young
As mentioned in the previous thread, this topic has been discussed at length on conspiracy sites like above top secret. I'm guessing they love the attention and are probably shilling in this thread
Brandon Foster
Convincing yourself that it's ok to jump off a ledge because you've been fed subliminals suggesting that for hours on end might cause harm. The video doesn't harm, the idea it leaves in you might. That is the concern with subliminals, although most modern research claims that subliminal effects are only slightly better than placebo.
Henry Sanchez
To me it's like the novel snow crash. They are working on finding the word set to invoke a state.
Alexander Perez
I opened it, it played for a second or so, and I paused it, and skimmed through a few frames with the audio off.
Looked pretty unnerving. Roaches or something, what looked like a vertebrae, and some unidentifiable general creepy looking stuff. The 'music' at the beginning few seconds is bleeps and blorps.
Kevin Allen
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Oliver Gray
above top secret only scratched the surface of this site.
Hudson Ross
I think my contributions to anything would be kaput. I have been taking Chantix for the past few months to quit smoking and I have weird as fuck dreams every night, it's just part of the side effects. So no telling if it would be the videos or the pills. And I don't want to egg Sup Forums on with bullshit or give misinfo about the effects of the videos.
Jack Ramirez
>Snow Crash It suggests that they are looking for the metalanguage for programming minds. The thought has surfaced in my mind a few times. Perhaps my knowledge of it inoculates me from the Ur?
In any event, I'm not as convinced that the content has merit or value just yet, I'm still pondering the cypher. It may have applications elsewhere.
James Gutierrez
You conveniently excluded the theory near the end.
heres the relevant sections and
Julian Moore
Well maybe I'm wrong. I'm on my phone and am not able to efficiently view multiple tabs. I'm guessing they got this far at least considering the forgotten language site is 7 years old
Aiden Martinez
What fucking horse shit. I cannot believe that there are grown adults who live in first world countries who would believe this.
The light cannot be encoded with secret information as it's coming from the LED's on your monitor. Just because someone has written it down, it doesn't make it true.
Please stop being retarded. I'm embarrassed we probably shared an ancestor or two 400 years ago.
Luke Torres
>subliminals are slightly better than placebo so its even worse then because the material is laced with priming outright saying its a cognitive virus.
Juan Wilson
Fuck off to a different thread if this one is not to your liking
Mason Cruz
So what are u saying this is mk ultra shit?
Jace Morgan
>Just because someone has written it down, it doesn't make it true. You were obviously in a hurry. That is why I dismissed subliminals in my last sentence as "only slightly better than placebo". I'm trying to tell you that the fear is unfounded.
Asher Price
That would be the gist of it
Ryder Price
Your contribution has been helpful now get the fuck out. You obviously haven't read any of the last thread, so go find a BBC thread that would fit you better.
Jack Perry
Beaides. Forgotten languages already ousted itself as a failed RL creepy pasta website ages ago.
Hey I hate to admit it but he does have a point. Maybe you have to watch the videos on a specific platform to actually get an effect. Ergo a projector is technologically different than a monitor.
Dylan Murphy
No, it's definitely not MKUltra. More like "pullyourleghard"Ultra.
The plaintexts provided in prior threads either shows writing creatively or just stringing together several bullshit ideas. While there is logical discussion, it is not backed by reference, thought experiment, comparison, etc. so there is no frame of reference. Reading through it, taken at face value, it appears 100% serious and legitimate. When you step back one step, you start to see how it can be self-referential.
Adrian Bennett
This. This needs to happen. They could notice an uptick in site traffic and take it down what with all the new visitors. If anyone's up to it, they oughta rip the bids from YouTube and save em as well.
I would, but I'm limited to being a shitty phone poster
Jaxson Reed
Sorry for not buying into your childlike fantasies. Believing in this crap so readily is mental illness. Honestly, go seek professional help.
>he standard unlearning algorithm applied to abductees is as follows: we simply excite their brains using XViS, we then perform an unlearning step when the brain achieves a fixed point, and we repeat the process till any memory of the events to which they have been exposed are effectively removed. The only thing we cannot remove is the vivid memory that something weird has happened to them.
Joshua Wilson
>comedy central is a credible resource for facts. The same neo liberal organization that brought you fuck white people: with Larry wilmore
Ryder Fisher
Lol, and we're all here nerding out like maniacs. Fml
Aaron Brown
>Maybe you have to watch the videos on a specific platform to actually get an effect. No. There is no "infection", there is only a vague attempt at memetic transmission, and a poorly constructed one at that.
Nicholas Edwards
It said it on its own website. It must be true!!!!11
Luis Murphy
Report and hide this /x/ roleplaying shit or we will never get rid of these schizophrenics. They are sliding.
Tyler Jenkins
Well do it anyway. Great for mental health.
The though has occurred to me before as well.If the code is really well written can't take that risk. Need the general population to go forward. I'll observe.
Seriously, fuck off. Go start a Drumpf totally BTFO thread
Wyatt Morris
wget -r
If you're that serious. But I stand by my current statement: I think the only real worth is the novel application of language selection as a cypher. The rest appears to be self referential brain goop.
Grayson Perez
copernicus was thought to be crazy when he came out with his new ideas.
i'm looking into the pleiades and harmonica macrocosmica right now. stuck out like a sore thumb
Kevin Reyes
>The baseless unsubstantiated claims on websites I find on the Internet is all the evidence I need to believe.
No wonder there are so many Christians in the USA.
Evan Harris
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Adrian Watson
Has anyone EVER seen a good post accompanying this image? Think about it.
Carson Green
It appears to be an echo chamber of autistic tin foil hat lunacy. They apparently already had a countdown with no happening at all, not even a shitty abortion video. Gay
Benjamin Allen
Nah, they're not there yet. Hypnosis, suggestion, light tricks, patterning.
They have years of experience in learning how to influence and go unnoticed. Just those two focuses. Oh and literature, reading. Structuralism, reductionism, deconstruction, whatever processes of analysis you can use to get to the guts of language.
The videos I saw had liminal tricks, layers were put to use pretty well to draw the eye where they wanted and it is pretty hard to resist or stay unfocused. The tones are interesting as well because you know you're getting sucked in when you stop hearing them.
Overall I've seen around 8 of them, tried to get oldest middle and newer. They're well put together for sure. But I don't think they are malicious. Trance states are probably something they explore and use. If anything, maybe watching a handful of them repeatedly just causes you to wake up knowing Russian. But the videos do make clear attempts at hypnosis and to manipulate your focus to a really high degree.
The first one took me by surprise and by the end of it I was a little zonked out, brow kinda stiff feeling like I was really concentrating. I knew how long the video was, but was unsure how long it felt.
The next few I was more careful with, but they're just the "hey let me know if this hypnotized you" project. I can only hope one of the videos contains a workable cipher.
Michael Turner
Laughably wrong.
This shows a phone analysing patterns and recalling information about it from the Internet.
Nothing to do with it projecting information. At all.
Try again.
Kayden Wright
Not even related to that bullshit that everyone could tell was bullshit badselfeater
Adrian Brooks
You do realize that some sites just put countdowns in place before they launch their site? It's not the sites fault that people freak the fuck out and get mad when the world doesn't end when the countdown reaches zero.
Gabriel Rogers
This shit is interesting. Keep going neets
Tyler Robinson
The difference being that Copernicus wasn't spewing demonstrably wrong and baseless crap.
David Cook
Don't feed the shill. They're only purpose is to tell us when we're on to something based on the undying fervor of their shilling.
Nolan Gutierrez
only toilets take the spewing you're doing dipshit
Evan Harris
Knowing as much about hypnotism as you do, why did you risk watching the videos?
Jack Hall
Has anyone had any luck actually finding any of these books that are referenced on the website?
Ryan Hill
Hypnosis is not a 100% thing; it depends on the subject, and the "raport" with the subject. Do some digging and reading, and you'll find there is a lot of differing opinion on what causes it, how effective it is, etc.
Jonathan Lewis
>Anyone who suggests we use fact based reasoning and a source beyond the one making all the claims is a shill.
So this is how people wind up like you huh? I've always wondered.
Grayson Morgan
Thanks for making a new thread. This has been the most interesting shit in like forever. Hope you guys figure shit out.
>"Non-verbal audio patterns and brain wave rhythms have proven the only way to achieve an ASC which allows us to detach the center of consciousness from the physical body while making intercourse possible"
>"Before the discovery of XViS audio stimulation we relied on drugs and hypnosis, but the requirements of these two techniques are different for each individual, while XViS audio stimulation is universal and works for each individual"
>"An analytical study was conducted on the potential interaction between those beings and human individuals. The objective was to identify any undue sensitivities to that intercourse and recommend remedies where appropriate. The first step in this process was to build the facilities needed for the intercourse to take place. We thoroughly studied the penetration of diffused fields into the facility both analytically and experimentally, and we concluded there were no means to monitor what was happening inside the facility once the intercourse was taking place."
I think it is a very bad idea to watch their videos.
Jace Scott
It seems they are shilling this thread hard.
The only logical reason to put a countdown on your site that doesn't deliver is if you want to totally discredit your site.
If their intent was to be discredited but remain popular to further their research/agenda, then they have failed miserably over the last seven years
>In order to test experimental paradigms for direct examination of such properties of inter-species communication as the rate of information transmission, knowledge gain, and flexibility.
>no matter how advanced two species are, if their respective biologies differ they will not be able to communicate at all. And the idea that the more advanced species of the two will easily understand the "language" of the less advanced species is clearly wrong: humans do not communicate with plants, insects, or birds.
>Previous experimental paradigms were simple. We simply exposed humans to phenomena they could sense forcing them to transfer a specific amount of information to each other. We know exactly the quantity of information to be transferred. Observation of how they organize once exposed gave us enough information as to infer how their communication strategy works.
>Probes were sent and located in specific locations over humans' nests. The number of probes, the deployment configuration, whether they blink or remain stationary, triggered a transfer of information that was monitored and analyzed. This experimental approach enable the study of important characteristics of Sol-3 human communication, such as the rate of information transmission, the complexity of transferred information and the potential flexibility of their communication systems.
Gabriel Allen
I already have, my approach is 'better safe than sorry'.
Josiah Bennett
>"Non-verbal audio patterns and brain wave rhythms have proven the only way to achieve an ASC which allows us to detach the center of consciousness from the physical body while making intercourse possible"
the fuck is this mumbo jumbo of autistic garbage
Sebastian Taylor
>information transmission by distant homing proved humans in Sol-3 do have cognitive abilities, work in constant teams, and share the information on their findings only with members of its team. They also showed the ability to grasp regularities in the patterns to which they were exposed and to use these regularities for coding and compressiing information, and to add and subtract symbols to optimise their messages. Yet, full communication with Sol-3 humans is critically impaired due to the biological barrier. The question on how to communicate with geochemical beings is still an open question.
>Linguistic steganography is the scientific art of avoiding the conception of suspicion in covert communications by concealing data in a linguistic based textual cover. The goal is not to hinder the adversary from decoding the hidden message, but to prevent the arousal of suspicion in covert communications. Fundamentally, when using any steganographic technique if suspicion is raised, the goal of steganography is defeated regardless of whether or not a plaintext is revealed.
>The NORMALS ensures that the communicating parties establish a secure covert channel for transmitting the hidden message covertly. In other words, NORMALS naturally camouflages the delivery of a hidden message in such a way as to appear legitimate and innocent.
>The conclusion of NORMALS' experiment of word frequency is as follows. Since NLGS is based on a domain-specific subject, then when applying Zipf's law, NORMALS Cover should be similar to a Zipfian slope of its domain-specific subject (the unaltered authenticated data of the same domain that contains no hidden message), and it is not required to fully obey Zipf's law. To emphasize, if the Zipfian slope of the NORMALS' domain-specific subject (the unaltered authenticated data of the same domain that contains no hidden message) is equal to N value, then NORMALS Cover should be either equal or close to that N value.
If I understand correctly, based on the PHYSICAL frequency of communication use, the word is repeated multiple times, while others are not due to their physical frequency.
So in theory, meticulously choosing certain words can create greater emphasis based on it frequency repetition. Ultimately allowing to instill the message in a certain way.
>In the foreword to his Chronologica, Gerard Mercator stated the intention to publish an atlas which would cover everything of the then-known cosmos, geography and history of the earth.
there something about old images like this that fit. they are encoded messages that can only be unlocked if you have the correct keys.
that's what the videos must be, keys.
Jeremiah Edwards
Shit can we stop posting paragraphs and shit quoted from individual pages and fuckhuge compilation images and instead tell me what the fuck is this shit?
Ryan Morales
There's nothing on the actual site to suggest that watching the videos will cause you physical harm. They can't.
This is something created by people, in modern video editing software. Don't get freaked out. It's cool, but it has no power. This is more than likely just the work of linguists and programmers either on a casual basis or on a psyops contract with the government. It's not real and it absolutely cannot hurt you.
Use that high IQ of yours as amor against this kind of stuff. Remember that people like us are the target.
>They were forbidden to teach it to any one not a mason, even to a member of their own family. No stone-mason would work on any job except with members of the order. This language identified them.
>Some assert that the masons in England, Scotland, and parts of the Continent understood some of this secret language. It is a fact that some stone-masons in Germany thirty years ago had a secret trade-talk, and in Belgium a tinker class have a jargon which some have supposed may be Shelta.
>The men here who speak this mason's talk best are old men. A few of middle age know some of it. But all are stone-masons who learned their trade in Ireland. Irish stone-masons who learned the craft in America never speak it, and many never heard there is such a talk.
Julian Rogers
>If I understand correctly, based on the PHYSICAL frequency of communication use, the word is repeated multiple times, while others are not due to their physical frequency.
>So in theory, meticulously choosing certain words can create greater emphasis based on it frequency repetition. Ultimately allowing to instill the message in a certain way.
So basically how Trump talks. Is Trump an occultist?
Brody Martinez
This is basic advertising, why do you know jingles of companies you've never been a customer of. Pleb tier
John Ross
If it's real, these should be findable.
Bouman, M. A. (1961). In Rosenbluth, W. A. (Ed.), Sensory communication. Cambridge, MA: MIT Press.
Corballis MC (1995) Visual integration in the split brain. Neuropsychologia 33, 937-959.
John, E.R. (2002). The neurophysics of consciousness. Brain Research Reviews 39, 1-28.
Lappin, Shalom (2001). An Introduction to Formal Semantics. In Mark Aronoff and Janie Rees-Miller (eds.) The Handbook of Linguistics (pp. 369-393). Blackwell Publishers.
Libet, B. (1994). A testable field theory of mind-brain interaction. Journal of Consciousness Studies 1(1) 119-126.
Radin, D. I. (2004). Electrodermal presentiments of future emotions. Journal of Scientific Exploration, 18, 253–274.
Reznikova, ZH.I. & Ryabko, B.YA. 2000: Using Information Theory approach to study the communication system and numerical competence in ants. In: Meyer, J.A., Berthoz, A., Floreano, D., Roitblat, H. & Wilson, S.W. (Eds.): From Animals to animats. Proceedings of the Sixth International Conference on Simulation of Adaptive Behaviour. The MIT Press, Cambridge, MA, pp. 501-506.
Ryabko, B.YA. 1993: Methods of analysis of animal communication systems based on the information theory. In: Wiese, K., Gibrakin, F.G., Popov, A.V. & Renninger, G. (Eds.): Sensory systems of arthropods. Birkhäuser Verlag, Basel: 627-634.
Savitt, S. (2009), ‘The Transient Nows’, in Quantum Reality, Relativistic Causality, and Closing the Epistemic Circle: Essays in Honour of Abner Shimony, W. C. Myrvold and J. Christian (eds) (New York: Springer), 349-362.
Sheldrake, R. (2003). The Sense of Being Stared At, And Other Aspects of the Extended Mind. London: Hutchinson.
Sperry, R.W. et al. (1955) Visual pattern perception following subpial slicing and tantalum wire implantations in the visual cortex. Journal of Comparative and Physiological Psychology 48, 50-58
Brayden Lee
Not the same a repetition of the word. It is repeated at different frequencies when stated only one time.
Alexander Wood
>tfw Sup Forumsack spotted shill ?
Landon Anderson
What is this? It's defense / milintelligence psyops. This is real... I can verify this if you search for site 17 on the website. They're talking about a specific area in BC (Lost Creek) that's inaccessible and not findable on the internet. This isn't amateur work, it's military - there are flaws in some of the things they're posting (in unit conversions) so it's obvious that it's very well done but the imperfections reveal that it's nothing to actually get freaked out over.
Just like BSE, this is the work of weird people, but they're still just people.
>The first stage was serving the users which the data and information we wish them to access; next stage is forcing them to search what we wish them to search. A predictable society is a society under full control, and search engines play a key role in turning people predictable.
>we know data gleaned from search engines cast light on a variety of phenomena from politics, sociology, economics, linguistics, and psychology. What we now need is people searching in a directed way in order to consolidate our viewpoints and having them to cause those phenomena, or to prevent the occurence of other phenomena which may pose a danger to our viewpoints.
>From things we perceive we get information about other things, often things we haven’t perceived. The presence of smoke gives us information about the existence of fire in the vicinity, the state of a window gives us information about earlier physical contact with some hard and solid middle-sized object. As a first approximation, I’ll say that one event or contingent state of affairs A gives information about the obtaining of a distinct contingent state of affairs B just in case the existence or obtaining of A tracks the obtaining of B, or again that A is produced by a process that reliably results in an entity of the relevant type of A just in case a state of affairs of the relevant type of B obtains.
>We already know what people is searching when they surf the web; and we already know why they search a specific data or information at a given time. What we now need is to remove the need to spy on them by simply having them to spy for us through their search terms. That is exactly what Force4 is all about.
>it never was so easy as it is today to condition people's mindsets, globally.
This is kind of fucking with me.
Aiden Myers
It has to do with the words and sounds used, not the number of times the word is said. So in theory, you are hearing one word more than one time and don't even know it.
Ayden Ward
>Sheldrake, R. (2003). The Sense of Being Stared At, And Other Aspects of the Extended Mind. London: Hutchinson.
>Radin, D. I. (2004). Electrodermal presentiments of future emotions. Journal of Scientific Exploration, 18, 253–274.
>Libet, B. (1994). A testable field theory of mind-brain interaction. Journal of Consciousness Studies 1(1) 119-126.
Sheldrake, Radin and Libet are all non-local consciousness theorists. These are real papers.
