Non-American Sup Forumsmrades: how is your country represented in American comics and cartoons? Is it accurate...

Non-American Sup Forumsmrades: how is your country represented in American comics and cartoons? Is it accurate? Does your country produce any of its own Sup Forums media and is it good?

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A FUCKING LEAF

People tend to feature my country only to use its folklore, usually lazily (I don't think that's an exception - most folklore used in comics is used pretty lazily) or to make backwards hick jokes.

>The Netherlands

DUDE WEED LMAO

Meanwhile the Dutch comic industry is top tier.

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Are we still secretly the most evil country in Marvel or have the faggots fucked that up two, yt?

Let's waste five min in a write up.

Uh. Depends. Can't think of my country (Italy) ever being relevant in capeshit or in other American comics, but I don't expect cultural sensivity out of Americans (after all, we're Euros so stereotypically all the same, not black people or women that can enjoy variety).

How's the comic situation in my country? Mostly horrendous. Comics were historically huge since the '30ies (the myth goes that Mussolini was a Disney fan) and unauthorized translation and knock-offs were made by the dozen. After WW2 the market got a boom thanks to the allure of American culture, and we got an endless parade of American derivaties (the oldest Italian comic still on-going, Tex Willer, is from 1948. It never got a reboot.). Since the sixties, French comic book culture started to influence the industry and thus you got this incredible array of "counter-culture" comics and underground art, popular American-influenced comics (ever heard of Diabolik?), translations of American comics strips (Peanuts, Wizard of Id). Starting from the seventies we got the boom of porn comics and the coming of several very good Italian authors, from Magnus to Jacovitti. The eighties were probably a golden era of expansion, with several high-value magazines translating British, American and French comics, publishing Italian ones co-existing with a kinda big "popular" industry that copied chunks of American pop culture wholesale, Disney Italy that was (and still is) a juggernaut and underground production (Zanardi, Ranxerox).

Great crash was in the first middle of '90ies. Manga and anime started eating hard on the profits, and a sudden increase of the price of paper sent a ton of publishers reeling. Few managed to reinvent themselves and the majority closed.

Dial H was DC m8.

Today we have Disney Italy (it throws out like 40% of the Euro output of Disney comics, and it's a household name for kiddie stuff here. Did some good experiments in the 90ies, like Duck Avenger) Bonelli, our local equivalent of DC\Marvel, producing tos of crap and the occasional good comic (Dampyr is a nice one with a Balkanite protagonist, and i guess Lilith from Enoch was translated in English sometimes) and a ton of smaller publishers who live and die and live again. It's a dying industry, though, no new blood or new ideas for at least twenty years and the profits have been steadily going down.

Even porn comics are in a terrible crisis! I guess, we get some good new authors, but they need to go to FRANCE to get stuff published. Dammit.

It does seem like Italy used to be the porn comic hub of Europe.

I'm talking about Weapon X. I know the movies that mention it have tried disconnecting it from the Canadian government because American normies are uncomfortable with the concept of countries other then America doing cool things but I remember the 90s and 00s Deadpool made no bones that Canada pretty much got all the good Nazi scientists and then let them go full mad science because why the hell not?

Very good writeup.

What are your top 5 Italian comics, all time, all genres?

Eh. Us and Spain. The Internet killed that, sadly. Pity, ya know, it was some kind of academia for younger artists: they managed to get a portfolio, some crap published under a pen-name and some experience.

Today, it's all internet commissions or nothing.

Germany here. Well, I guess, in American comics, if at all, we're still depicted by the more interesting parts of our history :)

Comics created in Germany are mostly aimed at 6 to 10 year olds (such as Fix und Foxi), and America usually doesn't play a role there. There's a few indy labels doing mostly horror (and some tongue in cheek porn and superheroes), but nothing to write home about. At least we get a lot of translated comics from italy, france, spain, belgium and so on.

Trick question, sadly, as I have shit taste and probably you won't get them in English. A good basics for "best" ita comics are:

1) Corto Maltese by Hugo Pratt. It's not typically Italian, but it's good. Dunnow what's in English, I swear your version of Ballad of the Salt Sea has been mangled by the publishers.

2) Italian Disney. For classical, find something done by Romano Scarpa, it has been translated into English. For newer stuff, PKNA or Duck Avenger or whatever you call them. Funny thing, Disney Italy is now under Panini Comics that was once Marvel Italy. What the fuck.

3) Sergio Toppi. You SHOULD find something of his in English, like Sharaz-De. He's a god-tier illustrator.

4) El Gaucho, by Milo Manara. It's not porn! I SWEAR! And Manara is not writing, so it's even good.

5) Vittorio Giardino. His Max Friedman series should be available in English.

If you want troll replies, Ganassa is a good NSFW Italian artist of the contemporary generation, and we even managed to throw out a somewhat acceptable superhero movie, "They called it Jeeg Robot".

Fucking Nate rescues Brian Mulrooney from Plastique. Fucking hell dude, you had one job, save your own fucking head of state, just had tp fuck shit up for us by being a boy scout.
Also i rememver it took American media an extra decade to figure out he had finally left office. He appears on Pinky and The Brain as PM when we were two PMs past Mulrooney at that point.

We are usually represented like Mexicans because burgers can't loo at a fucking map.
I mean, Spain is horrible on its own way, you don't need to take notes from Mexico; we're our own individual shithole.

Captain Berlin VS Captain Canuck when?

Nope. Weapon X and all your other skeezy military/biological experiments were given to America. Alpha Flight is now commanded by Carol Danvers too.

I'm italian. No problem. Already read Corto Maltese, grew up with italian Disney and Tex, some Dylan Dog from my cousins. The rest do sound pretty interesting tho, thank you.

The American publisher IDW has done a good job with the new English reprints compared to that failed attempt of Ballad of the Salt Sea.

>Alpha Flight is now commanded by Carol Danvers too.
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>*SOUND OF HEAD BANGING AGAINST A WALL IN WINNIPEG*
HOW can you fuck up Alpha Flight? They only have had the direction of up to go from any time in their hostory and tey somehow manage shit it up more. For fuck sakes

1)Mafia and more mafia. Also grandmas.

2)Yeah, we're probably the only country that still makes good western-themed comics(Tex or Zagor, for example). We also have Dylan Dog and DragoNero, a pretty good fantasy comic which deserves more love.
We also managed to improve Mickey and Donald as characters, mainly with PK and Mickey's Mistery Magazine(who got ended early because the sales couldn't keep up with its Donald counterpart). The italian Mickey comics(Topolino) from the 50's had some pretty fucked up moments tho.
Yes, I'm talking about you, Guido Martina.

The Carol Danvers Alpha Flight comic was alright though.

Alright by Marvel's current standards is still shit grade trash.

are you saying you as a dutchie don't smoke weed?
didn't your mother ever tell you lying is bad?

UK is usually presented as being stuck somewhere in the 19th century.

Seems to happen even when written by a Brit though, which is confusing. Noticed it when reading Sandman recently. Maybe it's because writers tends to be Southerners and I'm a geordie. Seeing a British street depicted without a Greggs every 3 or 4 shops down looks wrong.

>Weapon X and all your other skeezy military/biological experiments were given to America. Alpha Flight is now commanded by Carol Danvers too.
The fuck?
Why? Nah, you know what, I don't even want to know.

Top tier posts, user. I actually learned something new today

Frog here, mostly ignored, some sightseeing, a bit of french french bashing and mime marceau stereotypes; nothing worth reporting.

I don't understand why they need to destroy the Eiffel Tower everytime someone visits Paris, though.

As for production, can't complain. Fantasy is our cape, but we got good series in almost any category that you can imagine, with some very experimental and imaginative stuff from time to time. The fact that belgian production flows freely here helps a lot, too.
In the early 2010s, publishers decided to stop flooding the market with barely profitable albums, and a lot of series were discontinued as a result. Quality hasn't improved.

Mexico does produce some content, but I've never actually read it. There's a fuckton of great illustrators, but most of them end up working in the states.

Pic related.

Man, it says a lot about me that Trudeau being pro Carol makes me start to not like him, let alone have any opinion on him.
I read comics specifically because I hate real world news and it helps me escape and the stupid shit is ruining this. Just glad I went DC for Rebirth.

>I don't understand why they need to destroy the Eiffel Tower everytime someone visits Paris, though.
Lmao. Sorry but it's just so damn collapsable. For fuck sakes it's on legs to knock out, it's just begging to get trashed by some roudy metafags.

being Nate is suffering

I think it has something to do with spending 40 years off the grid, really.
Last time I was there, in 2008, I got a two hour lecture on how Burgers would never elect a Black guy as president.

bump

I am 29 and have never smoked, neither has my sister. I pass three coffeeshops on the way to work, a five minute cycle. It's always full of degenerates and tourists.

I have no problem with weed but when it is available 24/7 it becomes a non-issue. No need to fetishise it.

>I don't understand why they need to destroy the Eiffel Tower everytime someone visits Paris, though.
Probably because it is a world landmark that can be destroyed without presumably hundreds or thousands of people dying like would likely be the case if a skyscraper or long span bridge was destroyed.

>Venezuela

The last judge dredd movie based their main location off our infamous tower of david, colloquially known as the rape tower.

Never seen us mentioned in anything, tho.

Which is strange because venezuela is basically the closest thing to an actual mega city 1, complete with homeless mutants in sewers, fascist police riding exclusively on motorbikes, actual honest to god supervillain popping up all over, and even fucking occult voodoo shit going down with the human trafficking rings. Plus caracas is a crazy city with mile long trees sprouting out from the middle of roads and stretches of garbage right next to old mountainous grottos full of ancient secrets, and architecture that ranges from colonial era stuff to neo brutality architecture.

We also have ghettos that are essentially giant stone mazes on mountainsides, and down south we have illegal diamond mining operations as well as mining for shit like mercury that poisons the workers.

Also we have jungle cannibals all over the place but they're actually very chill.

I dunno, I'm not proud of the state of my country but I admit that it's pretty much the perfect location for a comic book if anyone actually took the time to look into us more.

Don't forget that time Ultimate Captain America used your children as meat shields/hostages to escape War Machine!

>rape tower
Tower of David sounds more ominous really

>funland
apparently doctor doom or someone like that had a lair here in lapland at some point. other than that zilch representation.
it still makes me laugh.

>without presumably hundreds or thousands of people dying
There's been a shitton of people on and around it everytime I was there. Like just about any other tourist attraction really.

Millar has something against the French, doesn't he?

Also forgot to mention we have roaming mad max type criminals on motorbikes who regularly mug people coming out of supermarkets to steal their food. This one time when chavez died the chavists actually hijacked all the buses and decked them out like ork wartrukks and went crazy.

Also we have a lot of people who just casually are missing limbs, like you csnt go out without noticing how many people are just missing a leg or an arm or votj, I once saw a mechanic missing an arm and and leg and he was working with his mouth to make up for it.

Also videogames are unironically banned because chavez got mad at a counter strike mod so the underground piracy scene is alive and well, people still playing original counter strike and dbz mods, and we get technology generations late, the ps3 only just arrived as something new and we've just been making due with ps2s and old computers and lots or pirated stuff.. it'd like a time capsule to mid 2000s gaming.

On another note we had videogame devs here, the guys who made vallhalla, that cyberpunk bartending game. They're trapped in the country because the government wants to force them to reinvigorate venezuelan culture.

Also we have anime based off our first president.

It's weird.

Eh, pretty accurate, I guess.

Nah, he probably fell hard for the "if you're not with me you're against me" Freedom Fries meme and that's it.

For capeshit, huntress and the punisher are italian american, and they shoot the fuck out of mobsters all the fucking time. That's about as good as it gets for italy I think.

Crazy stuff. Hopefully things will start getting better there like they did here in poland.

my country is rarely mentioned, i am glad

in the 80s there were a couple of superheros forced into those global groups.
One got aids from a aids goblin (no joke).

Sometimes characters visit ruins and archeological sites because ancient aliums and shit like that.

>ban videogames
>force videogame developers to stay in the country to make videogames

>the guys who made vallhalla, that cyberpunk bartending game
I heard that game was fucking great.

>They called it Jeeg Robot

this movie was nice, watched it dubbed in portuguese (I dont even know why it was dubbed)

>Valhalla devs
>Trapped
They are from Venezuela? Also what said.

dude, why can't you fucking just bomb Maduro and take over?

It's more of a vn than an actual video game. But it's probably the only institution worth saving the the whole country.

Weissblech Comics sind genial.

>Canada
I honestly can't tell you how accurate comic portrayals of Canada are, because the only places that get shown are in Ontario and I'm from BC. Like, everyone jokes about bagged milk but I've literally never seen it, it's strictly an Eastern Canada thing as far as I can tell.
Also, the thing that kind of annoys me is that they only ever show the nice parts of Ontario, or generic wilderness. Do you know what Northern Ontario looks like? It's 80 billion kilometers long and consists entirely of snow and rock.
That said, I've never read any Alpha Flight, they might be slightly better.

Trudeau wasn't pro Carol, he was Anti-Civil War II

Yeah, I heard basically that if you like VN's then it's fucking golden. I've never really played any, but I'm tempted to pick it up.

That's what happens when your government takes your guns and then your economy is so shit you cant even get materials to make anything remotely weaponized.

I know you americans get your shit twisted in a Knott over mass shootings but honestlt, it's better than the alternative of being so utterly powerless against the government that the police regularly collude with criminals to actually help mug people.

>Nekromantik
Thanks germany.

There is a demo around that pretty much shows you what it's about. The gameplay is really just mixing drinks and the rest is VN stuff.

That does sound kinda cool, I could use a comfy cyberpunk game.

I think this isn't a comic book setting because it's just too crazy for people to think it's plausible.

This just keeps getting better and better. How did you get internet access?

I feel sorry for you mang.

I've not played too much, but it looks like it's very comfy.

Brazil here.

Usually it is Jungle and Rio, but there was some good comics that captivate some piece of Brazil like Wolverine: Black Rio (it was Carnival, but not mainstream Carnival, but the street Carnival), and Wolverine: Saudade (this one was done by french).

in the animated area, there is Irmão do Jorel (Jorel's Brother), there is a vibe like Flapjack and it is based on the childhood of the creator (lots of 80's and 90's brazilian shit), it is my favorite cartoon.

here a song about love

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You ever read Daytripper? It's about the life of a young man in Brazil, going from birth to death though the gimmick is he "dies" in every issue, then it jumps to another point in his life It's a really great comic, and I think it's written and drawn by two guys from Brazil.

Oh I should also mention that if you're a university student you're in legitimate risk of being killed all the time, the government pretty much wants all the young people to be in the national guard because shit is getting out of control, so they regularly harass anyone still going to school with terrorist tactics. I'm dead serious, they even arrested an elderly college teacher once for supposedly being a suspected capitalist terrorist.

And about the national guard, here's the great tragedy of it all: it's pretty much just cubans. Cubans hijacked our military intelligence and slowly co opted our military to the point where there's a majority of people on power that are either native cubans or have cuban ties, the reason the guard shoots up so many of its own people is because a lot of them aren't even venezuelan.

It's fucking rich how cubans csn pretty much coast by on refugee status in the states and venezuelans just have to work like everyone else. I've heard of cuban expats still spouting commie shit while getting government checks whIle venezuelans who actually suffered a huge fucking brunt of socialism (which wasn't even socialism, it was straight up communism complete with people getting their businesses and homes expropriation for little to no reason, my grandpa had to quit his engineering job because the government took over the company he was working at and fucking harassed him out of his jon so they could put in incompetent party members into the workforce) pretty much get the short end of the stick.

It's some fucking bullshit.

>story takes place in canada
>toronto

Yeah, I did read, it was okay, but I forgot.

And only ever the really pretty parts of Toronto. The city is fucking MASSIVE because it just keeps eating other cities up. My buddy's from Toronto, and the place he grew up was pretty much the sticks.

The UK is normally depicted as a tourist's view of London, unless it's Scotland which always has a castle and some mountains in the background.

British comics started the same way as in most countries, as satirical cartoons and then strips in newspapers. Starting in the 30s comic books for children became very popular, The Beano is one that's still running. In the 50s adventure comics with higher quality art and paper took off, stuff like Valiant and Eagle. Commando was one exclusively devoted to war stories that's still going.

There was a similar underground comics movement to that in America, Oz is probably the best known of those. The creators got taken to court for obscenity and were actually convicted but luckily it got overturned. Local comics got pretty shat on 70s by Marvel who outsold all the adventure stuff.

A bit later in the 70s you get sci-fi and fantasy comics like 2000AD and Warrior, famously the origin of Judge Dredd and V for Vendetta respectively

The only home-grown success for adult comics after the underground stuff died was Viz, which is focused on satire and vulgar humour. Their best current strip is probably Drunken Bakers, a depressing slice of life about two alcoholics.

man, I am glad I was born in Brazil, you guys are fucked up so much.

Canada generally isn't portrayed much in American comics. When it is, it tends either to be the Canadian wilderness (which admittedly we have a lot of) or it's little token mentions like hockey double double Trudeau poutine eh eh eh.

We do have some good comics coming out right now. Chapterhouse is putting out several titles including two Captain Canuck titles (one being a continuation of the 70s-80s series and the other a rebooted modern version), The Pitiful Human Lizard (think a less powerful Spider-man, with Toronto instead of New York), and others. They're also putting out fantasy titles like Spirit Leaves and Life, Death & Sorcery; stylized sci-fi like The Fourth Planet, and a sort of self-parodying series called Die Kitty Die where a comic publisher is trying to kill off their biggest star.

There are other small publishers in Canada, but they're all generally very small. Think NEC.

>Uruguay
>we don't exist in comics
>some of the titles that just got here are 4 years old
>no nerd/colector/comic culture so if youre into this, you're alone forever
>"comic conventions" are basically a get together for a couple of strangers in a home
I don't even feel the pain anymore

I was watching Jorel's Brother and I noticed how different the Christmas episode was in one country and in another, in Brazil there is the crafty uncle that is always in trouble, like every family and he gets away with it. Also, no snow, no good vibe and all that shit that is common in the US cartoons.

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How much worse can it get? I heard people have to wait in lines for days to get gas, medicine and food

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>Also we have anime based off our first president.

>It's weird

Weird doesn't even describe it.

Have you ever seen those pictures of the old Soviet Union where they start eating their own dead? I heard they started eating the stray dogs, who are thousands by the way.

Once they run out of dogs, it will be North Korea 2.0

US comics is by their nature US-centric.
And the US has no clue as to how the rest of the world looks. Their media has told them that the entire world is shit, except their own country - so that no matter how bad things get, they can always say that it's not as bad as outside the borders.

US citizens who actually travel are often flabbergasted to find that other countries may be quite a lot more civilized than their own.

>Third World Countries
>More Civilized than the US
okay, let's not go overboard.

>Slovakia

nobody even knows we exist

however, geographically, DC's fictional nation of Vlatava is located where Slovakia should me
Making Count Vertigo technically Slovak

looking at the Jeff Lemire version of the character, I would say pretty accurate

as far as Slovakia's comic production goes, I guess the Oskar Ed saga is worth a look
alto I do not think it ever got released in any other languages outside of Slovak and Czech

Most of the Baltic and Eastern European countries in cape comics are represented with fictional countries it seems

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What the fuck I hate America now

>Portugal
We are pretty much non-existent in the american comics.

The concept of producing comics is still a pretty new around here.

We have young writers like Filipe Melo, who did The Adventures of Dog Mendonça & Pizzaboy - an Evil Dead-esque horror comedy - and most recently The Vampires - a graphic novel about the portuguese colonial war.

We also have André Lima Araújo, who recently did some art for Marvel and he's now doing Man:Plus, a graphic novel inspired by cyberpunk anime, like Ghost in the Shell and Akira. He's far from bad, but I honestly think his art is just bland - everything he does feels way too generic to me, and it feels that he's trying way too hard to be a discount Katsuhiro Otomo.

man, yesterday on Sup Forums they posted the cinemas after the screening and oh god, it was like they shitted out of their asses during the movie.

and you also eat pizza with your hands, what the fuck

You do know that the US is not the only "First World" country in the world, right? Also the three world model is obsolete. Most use the terms Developed, Developing, and Least Developed now.

>US isn't the only First World country
It effectively is, compared to the other "first world nations"
>Besides it doesn't count anymore
And he's already backing down from the claim. What a surprise
>Eats Pizza with utensils
What disgusting savage nation are you from?

>It effectively is, compared to the other "first world nations"
#10 according to NUMBEO, but Canada is only #15 so at least you made the top 10.

As someone from Northern Ontario, most of it is "generic wilderness".

>Do you know what Northern Ontario looks like? It's 80 billion kilometers long and consists entirely of snow and rock.

Not strictly true. In the summer, it's full of rock and biting insects.

Black fly clouds are genuinely terrifying. It's mostly trees. Just fucking trees everywhere.

Canada is never accurate unless it's from a Canadian cartoon that doesn't revolve around gross out humour.

>Nekromantic
Is that by any chance based on that necrophiliac erotic film?

Bolivar el heroe is a colombian movie

>Buttgereit continued the story of Nekromantik 2 with artist Martin Trafford in a comic book series. The comics are released on German comic label Weissblech Comics.
Huh.

>insulting daddy Extrano

It's so you can have a country that's lead by an evil commie or an evil monarch without offending anybody.