R-rule Britannia

Here's a list of countries that have more aircraft carriers than the UK.

France, China, Poo, Italy, Hue, Spain, Russia, Thailand any one of those can crush the UK meme navy

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ukdefencejournal.org.uk/study-finds-uk-is-second-most-powerful-country-in-the-world/
europeangeostrategy.org/2014/01/european-geostrategy-audit-major-powers-worlds-fifteen-most-powerful-countries-2014/
bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-37362973
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>Ramps

You forgot to add America to that list, friend.


Btw did you know that the american aircraft carriers could destroy all the rest of the aircraft carriers in the world combined?

Why? Because its 2016

>ramp

It was garbage to begin with

The QEs have been launched and commissioned already.

Calm down.

>As of 13 September 2016, there are thirty-seven active aircraft carriers in the world within twelve navies. The United States Navy has 10 large nuclear-powered carriers (known as supercarriers, carrying up to 90 aircraft each), the largest carriers in the world; the total deckspace is over twice that of all other nations' combined.[6] As well as the supercarrier fleet, the US Navy has nine amphibious assault ships used primarily for helicopters (sometimes called helicopter carriers); these can also carry up to 25 fighter jets, and in some cases, are as large as some other nations' fixed-wing carriers.

>the largest carriers in the world; the total deckspace is over twice that of all other nations' combined.


Are other countries even trying?

Kek no they haven't.

I feel so sorry for the Brits, this is horrendous.

I always dreamed of a joint United States/Brittania/Japan navy which would rule the oceans and the world, none could oppose.

launched but not comissioned thanks for correcting the record

But one British Tanaris Drone would sink them useless targets.

Drone subs 'planes'tanks future

I can be your hero, baby

u wot m8, they dont even have aircraft.

Meanwhile the huehues are buying one from China.

Battleships with railguns are going to be the next big thing

>Ramps

Still more than us you gaylord

What was the ramp even for?

The HMS Illustrious is being replaced by the HMS Queen Elizabeth in 2017

We will have two new ones in 3 years. We also have islands all over the globe with airfields.

Honestly though we have enough nuclear power in the 225 trident MIRVs, sure you could put our nuclear arms figures against the US ones and we'd pail in comparison but you really need to question the purpose in owning so many, are the US planning for some galactic warfare? After you reach the point where you could scorch the earth for a thousand years you really don't need to go further which is where the trident program has settled.

Fairly sure none of those nations listed have free health care, bennies for the NEET lifestyle with exception to maybe* France which basically sucks their business owners dry and crushes opportunity so that poets and novel writers can thrive, so whose really winning?

Why does Britain need a carrier? Most of ISIS is in London anyway.

And none of those countries mentioned in the OP including mine which you so insultingly referred to as poo cannot keep those carriers afloat.

2 of the Royal Navy Astute Submarines would sink all those carriers if they were sailing together

England used to have the best navy, what happened?

They are no longer relevant in an actual war. Brits just scraping useless, costly to maintain chunk of metal. Good for them.

politics got in the way

>Italy will rule over the Mediterranean again
Say it with me Sup Forums: MARE NOSTRUM

>being insulted on Sup Forums
Don't be a pussy.

>being shitalian
>invade greece
>lost
>get invaded by greece

Oh no I wasn't insulted,I have a pretty thick skin on Sup Forums,it just seemed unnecessary banter in a serious thread.

>Chile
spic pls. Go eat your tacos

If you go for complete doom's day, you might as well go for the capability to do this many times over. That way it wouldn't matter if your enemy maneges to intercept 90% of incoming nukes.

The new technologies like "hyper-sonic" missiles could tear carriers a new one in actual war. No way to stop it.

This fact even got Americans trying to ban hyper-sonic missiles. They wasted to much money on a bunch of floating bathtubs with outdated technology that the Brits designed and used years ago.

>battle of the st. louis bridge

atleast our flag is not the same as mexico

also we can win our wars, you guys were one of the reason why germany was fucked in ww2 u make more poblems than problems you can solve

Our and the Russian stockpiles are left overs from MAD during the cold war; Mutually Assured Destruction by its very nature requires massively overwhelming firepower. You want to make the concept of open warfare so terrifying that neither side will engage in total war because of what that would really, truly mean.

i hope they at least use the fucking ramp on a skeboard park

>mfw India has the hyper-sonic missile

Who is that trannie standing next to Nigel? Are they involved in a sexual liaison? Why are British conservatives always so kinky and getting found in basements with women's stockings around their heads?

Until it runs out of fuel?

MUH DECK!

And it is terrifying; no other nation has the ability to spread poo over streets at mach 18 from a re-entry vehicle remotely. We would get almost no warning before everything in the fleet smelled of second hand curry.

We have large quantities of old over-seas territories left over from the Empire which we can use worldwide.

Nuclear interception is bullshit. What goes up must come down and nuclear weapons aren't particularly complicated, the physics behind them is, the mechanics are a fairly simple.

You can either try to shoot them down, causing them to explode above you raining carcinogens that will salt the earth or let them kill you in an instant.

That is of course assuming we don't just go Dr. Evil and use them indirectly to melt ice caps poison oceans etc.

Honestly though the CIWS we use to intercept mortars and missiles and the like (basically a mini gun with aim bot) are fairly unreliable and stop less than half the projectiles. Basically I wouldn't hold too much faith in those systems.

tfw aircraft carriers are the battleships of WW2 in WW3

>Britain is stupid because they dont waste money on their navy

They have bigger things to worry about.

>Italy will rule over the Mediterranean again

and the only thing you'll do with it is shuttle refugees from libya's shores, mario

>tfw aircraft carriers are the battleships of WW2 in WW3

Yeah they are pretty much useless unless you are planning to bomb 3rd world shitholes constantly.

The brits are smart. They know future warfare will be fought in the air. The waters are obsolete

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I am actually mildly surprised we haven't seen a rise in small, fast carriers whose exclusive purpose is to carry drones for just that reason. If you could get say, 3 or 4 ultra-light support carriers for the cost of a super carrier, with those carriers only carrying VTOLs and drones, you could have a force that is just as effective at blasting holes in sand-people huts without putting as much in the way of assets at risk from surprise attack or someone getting lucky.

People need to stop picking on the Royal Navy. They're slowly getting their shit back together.

You guys have to realize that in WWII, the Royal Navy was basically a massive capital fleet of battlecruisers and battleships. After WWII, those became obsolete, and Britain didn't have the infrastructure or manpower to build a massive fleet of aircraft carriers like the US did. As such, they switched to an anti-submarine warfare role, since they were ideally placed to intercept Soviet submarines trying to break out into the Atlantic.

This is why the Royal Navy has an absurd number of frigates and destroyers, but very few amphibious landing craft, aircraft carriers, or missile frigates/cruisers.

It takes some time to adjust to a changing naval warfare climate. Give them some time and they'll be back to having a primarily bluewater power-projection navy.

Even without aircraft carriers, the Brits could royally wreck 90% of the navies on this planet. The US, UK, France, and Russia are basically the only naval powers in the world.

We have.

Subs that launch drones are also becoming a thing.

>muh aircraftcarriers
>can be knocked out by a missile 1/10'000 the cost

Not a very Illustrious end I'd say.

10/10

Your trips are deceiving. You're an idiot.

You realize an aircraft carrier is surrounded at all times by a dozen or more frigates and destroyers, all of which are equipped with CIWS designed to intercept massive, slow anti-ship missiles.

First gen CIWS was pretty unreliable but these days it is incredibly useful.

An aircraft carrier battle group is perhaps the most fortified place on Earth.

In the Merchant Marine, my first captain told me as a third mate upon seeing an aircraft carrier on the distance, "Son, when you see a US aircraft carrier, imagine the theme to Jaws in your head and act accordingly."

We don't
BrahMos naval version isn't hypersonic

ICBMs are nuclear war triggering so those aren't viable either,

Carriers are still relevant

The minute those are fired at a carrier the USA launches nukes. SOooooo

Plus US carrier groups are basically giant anti-ballistic missile defense domes. Tose destroyers are loaded with anti-ballistic missile missiles.

Wait what? We can't even patrol our maritime economic zone lol

There were uruguayan ships fishing in our waters, the argentinians warned us, we kindly asked the uruguayans to leave, they said "sure" and never did, argentina told us they didn't leave, we pretended it never happened in the first place

They are still there fishing lol

You have a carrier, but it's unable to leave port and you don't have any planes that can take off and land on it.

But you have a carrier!

>lays rusting in Portsmouth harbour

that's a bad idea, those fucking pompey pikeys will have stripped it for scrap to feed their crack habits.

Cmon now. It'd be risky to bet on your navy against tibet's coastal guard.

and the ol' orange in the mouth. this was my local MP:

"STEPHEN MILLIGAN, was a Tory MP and Parliamentary Private Secretary to the notorious arms dealer Jonathan Aitken, then a minister in the Tory government. On 7th February 1994, he was reported to have been found tied to a chair with a plastic bag over his head and a satsuma stuffed into his mouth."

he was having a strangle-wank on poppers

American aircraft carrier is the most powerful race in the world

It's 2016, what do we need armed forces for?
The NHS has a shortage of nurses, junior doctors are getting a pay cut, benefits are being scrapped and pushing the most vulnerable in our society towards poverty and homelessness and all you care about are some toys that will never be used outside navy recruitment promotional videos?

I'm sorry but we have better things to worry about like the institutionalized racism in our police force. Can you believe only 10% of the West Midlands Police is currently made of ethnic, religious and sexual minority background constables? Come talk to me about the Navy when that number is AT LEAST 30% like Theresa May promised.

Did aircraft carriers stop Stephen Lawrence from being savagely murdered by neo nazis? Did they stop Jo Cox from being butchered in broad daylight? No! So leave these oversized expensive floating steel dildos to backwards countries like the US and Russia.

>all you ramp faggots
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_deck#Ski-jump_ramp

p. cool ramp you got there russia

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_aircraft_carrier_Admiral_Kuznetsov#/media/File:Admiral_Kuznetsov_aircraft_carrier.jpg

Oh god, why.

Why did we give power to women? Why?

In brasil it is the same thing.

...

here's your (You)

Fun facts:
>there has never been a genocide carried out by a female leader
>there has never been a war between two countries with female heads of state
>no woman has ever been charged by the ICC
>women commit faaaaar less crimes than men
>men are far more likely to abandon their children
>If Hitler, Churchill and Stalin were women, WW2 wouldn't have happened

>>If Hitler, Churchill and Stalin were women, WW2 wouldn't have happened
no because they would have been too busy making catty phone calls to eachother behind their backs

>Cancuckistan
>Will he relying on our Navy to defend you because your own Navy is literally nonexistent

M8, 2 Queen Elizabeth 's are soon to be launched.

We're literally one of the only Blue Water Navies around. We have Brown water Navy and Green water Navy. We still have have one of the strongest Navies.

Our Armed forces is literally ranked 5th strongest in the world.

Canada is totally irrelevant and a State of the Commonwealth, get uppity again and we'll tell the Yanks they can have you. The fact they need us to be their war lapdog is the only reason Canada hasn't been invaded yet.

Literally Just a 3rd country making fun of the British Empire, KyS, M80.

who cares about carriers anyway, it's all about ballistic missile nuclear submarines anyway

Who needs aircraft carriers when you have bases on the enemies doorstep

Who needs a Navy when a B-52 can reach anywhere in the world and back?

HMS Queen Elizabeth
70,000 tonnes of pure fucking win for the British.
Lets go back to the 1960's it's the year the labour government smashed the Royal Navy with the white paper, scrapping our next gen super carriers and instead we built the smaller invincible class.
Because of the defence cuts British Innovation had to get their engineering caps on once more and we invented the Harrier jump jet as well as the Ski ramp. This means we can add up carrier innovations as such
>The carrier - British Invention
>The angled flight deck - British Invention
>The steam catapult - British Invention
>The Standard Take off and vertical landing STOVL - British Invention
>The Ski ramp - British Invention
OK great, we're fucking awesome, but we're broke as fuck and the public doesn't support military spending.
Skip forward to present day and the new Queen Elizabeth carriers.
We have a huge naval personnel problem, not enough seamen, this means that if we want to run nuclear powered carriers we can only realistically operate one, which means like the french the thing will be over worked and have a huge downtime of 1-3 years mid life were we wont have a carrier.
Fuck that.
Ok so no nuclear option, well that saves money too so that's good.
Catapults? We could use steam ones for sure on conventional engines.
Let's talk next gen fighters, a carrier is only a good as her planes and our fleet of harriers were out of date as it was when retired so we need new ones.
F-35 5th generation stealth multirole Aircraft to centre stage.
You get three options A, B, C.
The RAF likes the A version, cheapest, largest fuel capacity, largest loadout capacity.
The Navy wants C, equipped for the stresses of carrier catapults and has a good fuel capacity and loadout.
F-35B, it has the smallest loadout, the smallest fuel capacity and is the more expensive of the three but the thing can fucking take off and land vertically. Marines cream over this shit.
>(Cont)

So, F-35b is what we went for. Why?
We use what is known as a tailored airgroup on the new carriers this means that a minimum of 12 planes will be embarked when she is fully commissioned the rest will be spread out between the RAF, the Army and for use in training. We're buying around 140 of them.
By using the same aircraft, which only the B can actually do, we save billions in planes, we solve the personnel problem, we save money on the carriers by not bothering with catapults and we still end up with a jet that is miles ahead of anything else in the mutirole in the air today by any nation (other than those that use F-22 raptors for Air Superiority and the F-35A or C).
Its worthwhile pointing out that the British will have a special place in the procurement of the F-35. We are the ONLY nation that will have full access, being able to reprogram and develop the fighters as we see fit, every other nation will have to resort to the US for software changes.

Lets talk automation? A US nimitz class Carrier has a crew compliment in the region of 2-3 thousand going up to 5000 with airwing embarked.
The Royal Navy can't afford these numbers, we just don't have the people. So we automate the shit out of the problem, we achieve something the Americans haven't managed to get working and who are incredibly interested in how QE gets the job done so they can steal the tech, make it better and use it in their new Ford Class.
What this means is that our carriers will have a crew complement of around 680 raising up to 1300 when the full airwing is embarked.

So we have two super carriers, only matched by the Americans Carriers and then only if we use American operational requirements.

When this thing launches the Royal Navy once again takes her rightful place at sea and for the first time we will be able to deploy a full Super Carrier Battle Group anywhere in the world and at short notice.

Semper Eadem ("Always the Same")

Every carrier in the world that doesn't belong to the US or France is trash tier.
The french carrier is overworked, breaks down and out of date, not to mention tiny. They should have built two.

>The United States took the top slot as the world’s super power, while Britain took the only Global Power slot, bringing her in second behind America.

ukdefencejournal.org.uk/study-finds-uk-is-second-most-powerful-country-in-the-world/
europeangeostrategy.org/2014/01/european-geostrategy-audit-major-powers-worlds-fifteen-most-powerful-countries-2014/

Triggered by shitposts. Sad!

Matched? The QE class does not match the Nimtiz class let alone the Ford class.

Fuck you Canada, you were always the shitter of the litter. Should have let America drown you.

>are the US planning for some galactic warfare

Yes.

>I'm a huge cumguzzling fucking moron who doesn't know why the US Navy stopped building Nimitz carriers and designed the Ford Class
>I'm sorry I brough up the fact I don't know what sortie ratio is
Just stop.

Chur(((shill)))

>se dice malvinas

We should do a Sup Forums community fund. Can't sell for that much if they're selling it for scrap.

Refurbish it a bit afterwards, and we're the first internet board with force projection capability.
Then we just need some strategic bombers and we can finally start the race war in style.

>se dice malvinas
No.

bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-37362973

>>If Hitler, Churchill and Stalin were women, WW2 wouldn't have happened
So you're saying the communist jews in Germany would've continued the racial cleansing of Germans and won the civil war.

Sounds about right