Why was this character even in the movie? He has maybe five minutes of screentime. Did he get all his scenes cut like Suicide Squad all over again?
Why was this character even in the movie? He has maybe five minutes of screentime...
his first scene is god-tier
can't believe I'm saying this about Jared Leto but after that scene his presence commands the film for the next hour
For the next hour? The fuck he was completely forgettable after the 2 minutes he was on screen.
he was an interesting character who added to Luv's character. he was also the central driving force behind the story. well done
dude, he killed three actors when they shot the scene where he stabs a replicant
his method acting makes it impossible to work with him
he was actually fine in this, i think everyone is just sick of him as an actor.
Top kek
he was the "evil white guy" quota
He's honestly the only part of the film that reminds me of the original
why was this character in the movie? here's a better question. why was this movie even fucking made? i saw this big golden turd and don't see why everyone is having a nerdgasm about it. now the board is flooded with bladerunner and ryan (what the fuck is wrong with my eyes) gosling threads.
They needed a Tyrell replacement and that's about it really
literally the most overacted meme character since deadpool
>feeds the world
>makes reliable replicants that obey
>talks in a sing song manner
>responsible for Luv
>villain...
WTF?
>0000
Yeah its kind of disgusting how absolutely unoriginal Sup Forums's thoughts are. You can tell that fag ripped that line from a review or some shit he saw once and is now repeating it to try to assert himself or something. Wallace's whole point in the movie was 'Yeah fuck replicants'
t. hasnt watched it
Luv wouldnt pursue the child without his orders
Hes the same guy who had his eyes gouged out by the replicant in the original right?
Set-up for a sequel or expanded universe
Jared Leto is a fucking awful, has no screen presence whatsoever
I heard he really blinded himself for the role.
Why does he hang out on a small platform in the bottom of a dark water tank?
I didn't know characters needed a minimum of minutes onscreen to be considered characters.
Why not?
>don't see why everyone is having a nerdgasm about it
Well, first off it's clearly being shilled hard and they're not even good at it. But other than that, it was a sequel to a beloved film that wasn't terrible. Ryan Gosling has an established fan base here due to appearing in many Sup Forums friendly films over the past decade or so. The Joi subplot appeals to waifufags and neckbeards and the story as a whole appears to the Inception crowd, which basically covers all of Sup Forums.
Also Sup Forums just has generally shit taste so nothing too surprising really.
I'm just miffed at some of his dialogue being too heavy handed, I hateread: love to play backseat script writer but for example instead of curiously going on about Angels bringing gifts into heaven, and I'll have to brush up on my theology but I'm fairly sure that isn't a requirement, and asking where his gift was, he could have pointed out the word Angel means messenger and one without a message to deliver is false and fallen.
Same general religious, demeaning lauding over Luv and his replicants to do his bidding to be worthy, but sensible.
Another odd thing is how he's made to seem like the tempter with Deckard, but instead of spinning some clever horseshit about secretly being on the side of Replicants and wanting to protect the child by taking her off world, he makes it abundantly clear he just wants to dissect it just like Deckard fears and then shows further lack of trust by presenting Rachel's skull and a copy of her.
Let's be clear. Making a villain a villain is fine and well, but for fuck's sake make them logical instead of mustache twirling every minute or they just come off as self-defeating.
I feel like a character like this needed more mystery and building
The moment I thought "Who is Marcellus Wallace" it's like "Oh I'm marcellus wallace I want to breed replicates"
Lol, why is this always the default response to any criticism of this flick?
>instead of spinning some clever horseshit about secretly being on the side of Replicants
I guess if Deckard was a literal retard that would work on him
why not let him be the height of mystery and never show him on screen at all
Why? Hes basically the savior of humanity and hes looking to catapult (the rest of) humanity to the stars since earth is dying. To do that he needs a shitload of slaves
Hes like Elon Musk mixed with Steve Jobs times a billion
To be fair to Jared he's been somewhat miscast recently. If DDL was playing secondary roles in big budget superhero and sci-fi films he'd be seen as over the top and corny too. But the onus is also on him to not except every high paying role thrown at him and seek out films where he can play a more central role, even if it's smaller films.
any good quality torrents of this masterpiece?
It's less that it needs to even work and more that he needed to make any effort at all to avoid legitimizing Deckard's apprehension to even hear him out.
If I need to state the obvious, of course the sell Wallace would pitch in this scenario would involve him preventing Luv from bombing Deckard's hide out to begin with or at least avoid her being present at the time so she could later show up during a fake rescue from the clutches of the mystery attackers.
Anything really that doesn't give Deckard reason to fear them more than doubt them. I dunno, if you were content or entertained with his ineffectual, overzealous method that's fine, but I have my reservations.
Go see it in IMAX you dummy
According to Dennis, he wanted David Bowie for Wallace, but a little inconvenience got in the way
Even God is on Nolan's side
>(the rest of)
that's literally the problem with the entire narrative.
as stated in the first movie, off-world colonies already exist and the Earth is populated with the dregs that couldn't pay for the ticket off.
So this guy's entire shtick makes little to no sense.
The only reason he even exists in the movie is there can be a vaguely bad evil corp tyrell-like head who will ham it up for a couple of scenes
not that guy, but the "rest of" in the movie refers to the rest of the stars, not the rest of the people, as that user is implying. wallace is just egotistical, he says something like "there are 9 offworld colonies. 9! a child can count to 9 on two fingers! humanity deserves the rest of the stars!"
dont see what the problem is here
Because the movie genuinely not dog shit which is an anomaly these days.
>be method acting and apply yourself to do your acting job absolutely best
>all your scenes are cut
Although I can not stand Jared Leto, the problem with this wasn't his acting. The character he was playing was a cartoon villain. He was just 'Mr Evil'. It was how the character was written. Honestly a lot of the plot is pretty shitty in this film. It's a great film nonetheless. Excellent visuals and Gosling was amazing in it. The score was also better than expected.
I liked him in the role the only thing I didn't like about his character is that it's just such a cliched sci fi movie villain. Tyrell was much more interesting and complicated and doesn't really come off as overtly malicious like Wallace does. Tyrell almost seemed so blinded by his own arrogance that he truly believed he wasn't doing anything wrong least that's what I took away from him. And the idea of the head of a giant corporation being a weirdo super genius instead of almost a Harvey Weinstein type character was really unique to me
>Why was this character even in the movie? He has maybe five minutes of screentime
>presenting Rachel's skull and a copy of her.
Wallace has near total power throughout the entire movie
we know that he has no personal ethnics, so how is he showing a deckard the skull of the woman he loved out of place?
look back at blade runner and the scene between Roy and Tyrell, the dialogue is just as 'heavy handed'
How did he find out about the baby?
>look back at blade runner and the scene between Roy and Tyrell, the dialogue is just as 'heavy handed'
I have, and now I hope you will too.
First and foremost Roy is the one who addresses Tyrell with both sincere and mock reverence, it is not Tyrell who puts on airs of a god complex. He remains very practical about his position and person even while living extravagantly. In fact it's made all the more evident since despite his class and lifestyle he openly associates and respects the intelligence and company of introverted, unkempt Sebastian.
Tyrell is certainly not without an ego, he appears amused by the mind games he plays with whoever he's engaging, he is proud almost to the point of arrogance over how he's engineered Rachel and Roy to the point they're lost in the nature of their own lives, but even then never does he actively act or seek to illustrate himself as an amoral or malicious tyrant.
Secondly, and in fact, as a show of his good nature instead of making demands he's the first to open the grounds for even handed, rational discussion with Roy on the possibility of Replicant enhancement, then explains politely why indefinite life extension is dangerous and likely an impossibility, above all he doesn't resort to callous bribing or threatening the entire time.
He comes off as calculating and confident, an antagonist pushing and pulling the strings of others for his whim, sure, but not a delusional villain. He never harms anyone.
Agreed, well said.Tyrell just seems so much more realistic and natural than Wallace does His character is so believable
they are both metaphors for god.
They don't have to be believable
"The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long, and you have burned so very very brightly, Roy. Look at you. You're the prodigal son. You're quite a prize!"
The same way K did. He stole her bones and analized them.
>Let god complex actor play a man with a god complex.
Brilliant desu.