Grand Budapest Hotel was such a great movie. Loved the style, characters and poignant ending.
It was an enchanting old ruin
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Great movie. Tenenbaums is my favorite though
Gay as fuck
same
but i hold them to equal never ending replay value
and if it wasnt for schwartzmam being the lead/main of a few others
they too would be best films
Im not really familiar with Wes Anderson's work and basically went into the Grand Budepest blind. I was immediately captivated by the dialogue and artstyle. I take it I'm in for a treat judging by his filmography.
It's a unique movie
Has its own style
What movies does a real man watch? Fast and furious
Cast of the movie is insane. F. Murray Abraham has a fantastic voice and Fiennes was amazing. Weird that he wasnt even nominated for an oscar.
One of the few movies Id unironically call kino. The american accents were weird though, but no dealbreaker.
GBH > Life aquatic > Darjeeling > RT >>> Moonrise
Owen Wilson was the worst offender. Couldnt quite suspend the surfer dudebro persona disbelief with him. But yeah, it's not a dealbreaker like you said.
its tintin kino
Let me guess, you prefer capeshit
Haven't seen Life aquatic, Darjeeling and Moonrise yet, which one should I watch tonight?
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yeah, it's a pink hotel, grow a dick and hold onto it
what's the deal with Wes Anderson and mixing of races?
life
hands down
youll probably even watch it twice in a row and get no sleep and be fully entertained even moreso the second time around
Alright, thanks mate
Wes Anderson's style is truly something I want to fucking hate but I really liked The Grand Budapest Hotel and I can't figure out why.
Does it matter? It fit into the story.
Never understood why people love this fucking movie. It couldn't make a single smile on my face.
I guess it must be an essential hipster movie or whatever.
no white men will take her because of that mexico shaped birthmark
I remember enjoying it when it came out, but honestly the only one of his films that has stuck with me is The Darjeeling Limited.
I really enjoy his aesthetic, I think I've seen most of his films and appreciated them, but Darjeeling is the only one I've thought "I should rewatch that at some point" about
hes genuine with the shit he does
a certain authenticity
hard to deny
The fucking chase scene that went off forever took the film from a 9/10 to a 7/10 for me.
For me it was the combination of the visual style and novel like narrative. But I had no expectations going in to this. Even checked why the aspect ratio was weird all of a sudden. But in the end I was blown away by it. It really felt like reading a good book.
why do you want to hate it?
Lots of people like it
would you Sup Forums?
The best thing about it was how well it showed something most Americans cant even fathom.
How Europe, especially Germany and Austria/Eastern Europe (which was essentially Austrian in culture) changed after WW1.
Stephan Zweig's Novel (he is referenced and cited as an influence of the film) "the world of yesterday" explains with alot of nostalgia how Europe went from an aristocratic hierarchy with "class" and "respect" to a world dominated by politics and ideology.
The film beautifully captures that, but also shows how the years following the end of WW2 changed Europe in architecture (as seen by the grey and ugly exterior of the hotel, when Jude Law meets the owner).
10/10 kino and arguably Anderson's masterpiece.
I personally prefer Rushmore and Steve Zizzou, but thats only because I grew up with those films.
I had a feeling it was a silly sense of contrarianism
He really does like him
>tfw no plain, petite gf.
I'm more of a darjeeling kind of guy
>To be frank, I think his world had vanished long before he ever entered it. But I will say, he certainly maintained the illusion with a marvellous grace.
Beautiful film
>calling her plain
Gtfo you pleb
>seahorse
>plain
Why I oughtta!
Gustav was such a good character
I really liked Grand Budapest but it's one of those films that I think should have been an hour longer than it was. The story felt more than a little rushed to me and I would have loved to be able to spend more time in this world and getting to know the characters a little better.
Also, this is a matter of personal taste but the whole "oh my wife and child died later from disease" felt like poiniency for the sake of it.
>poiniency
I think the length was just right. The story that needed to be told was told. It was refreshing to see a movie stepping away from the 120 minute requirement that seems so pervasive these days.
With regard to the second point. The story was about the Grand Budapest Hotel and how Zero got to acquire it. Agatha's death really is tangential to that story. There's also the issue of it being a deeply emotionally upsetting subject for Zero. Hence why he mentions it to the author (Jude Law) earlier in the movie. That loss was a defining characteristic of Zero's character, signified by the 'truly alone' line.
Why?
Best girl pictured on the left
Yes the story that needed to be told was told, but where's the fun in only doing what is absolutely necessary? The first scene with the author as an old man was unnecessary, but they put it in anyway. In my opinion greater development of the likes of Henckels Agatha and even the other conceirges would have made the eventual destruction of this world all the more sad.
Still thought it was great but I find that directors like Anderson are often do caught up in trying to be different and "unconventionsal" that they forget that some things are conventions for a reason, they work well.
For me the old author part was crucial. It provided the link to the story within a story. Well, there's actually four levels (girl reading book - old author - young author with zero dining - zero's story). That particular form of storytelling resonated with me and it allowed to movie to justify its liberal use of fantastical imagery. After all, the story has mulitple narrators which help deconstruct the confines of harsh realism with every level. It's really just a novel in visual form.
Such a good score
youtu.be
It's a colorful and melancholic look back at the world that was lost after two world wars. Very easy to like.
its edward gorey for girls
No, snoke is awful
This, it's almost classic disney like with how it evokes that romantized old european feel. A bygone era indeed.
I keep thinking you mean this film.
90% of this board does. Wouldnt know kino if it slapped them in the face.
/fa/ as fuck
Moonrise was fucking great you shitter
you're really quick to dismiss things you don't like and the people that like them
gimmicky composition
decent/cute story
fedora tipping dialogue
overall 5/10
>the average Sup Forums poster
>fedora tipping dialogue
It's written like a novel you prole
>the average redditor with nothing to say who probably hasn't even seen the movie
That doesn't make it ok lol, go watch the prestige again faggot
My pick for the WORST film EVER MADE!! Death by quirky, no story, every freaking character had their own schtick: birth mark, uncontrollable profanity, love of cats, etc. Cameos on screen for less than a minute. Total shit.
Basically reddit the movie, look at me I'm so quirky and unique and what's the matter don't you enjoy my quips and pop culture references *wink* *wink* . How can anyone enjoy this trash I will never understand.
Its funny how you losers shit on Guardians but this is totally fine.
what pop culture references are you referring to?
>samefagging this hard
It's okay if you didnt like it. Also there were no quips. So maybe rewatch it?
I'll rewatch it if you hold a gun to my head.
Your loss. Maybe try again when you're a bit older.
Watched it cant remember anything which is usually a sign somethings no good. If youve seen one of his films you get the general idea. What seems arty but profound initially seems wanky and overused gimmick the more you see.
she really is a chameleon
GBH > Rushmore > Tennenbaums > Moonrise Kingdom > Darjeeling > Fantastic Mr Fox > Life Aquatic
I haven't seen Bottle Rocket
I've had older.
>his excessive swearing
It killed me every time desu
>If I learn you ever once laid a finger on my mother's body, living or dead, I swear to God, I'll cut your throat! You hear me?
>I thought I was supposed to be a fucking faggot?
>You are, but you're bisexual.
THis guy gets it. It could also be seen as adding various "mythical" levels to the narrative, relying on the fuzzy nature of memory and its inevitably rose tinted few of the past. The autobiography of Stefan Zweig relates us to this theme "the world of yesterday", and how Gustave and the Budapest Hotel were basically myths even in their own time. So, telling us a story within a story within a story is another way of saying that maybe this is just a fairytale and that a person so "perfect" as Gustave couldn't exist in this slaughterhouse of humanity.
Good book, by tthe wa y.
Pleb
RLM reccomend to not see GBH but I did watch it and I thought it was fantastic. Fun, interesting, vulgar comedic and i was not bored
Idk why they gave it a no.
This. Vienna was the centre of the world until the turn of the century - the New York of it's day. Within very little time, it became a provincial capital and barely anyone of this generation knows about the profound change that occurred.
Imagine the US in 30 years having the same geopolitical clout as Britain - a kind of depressed old man looking back on his glory years that no one else remembers that much about. It'll happen eventually. It happens to everyone. Not many people were predicting the looming fate of the Austro-Hungarian Empire - at least not the sudden nature of its decline.
Enjoyed the movie and I enjoy Anderson movies a fair bit but I just get the feeling he is a secret pedo.
Because of Moonrise Kingdom?
Its worse than that really, at least the British still have some clout on the world stage and London is still a world financial and cultural hub.
People genuinely confused poor old Austria with Australia.
Press F to pay respects...
It still has some status as a cultural capital
I think this film is quickly becoming one of my all time favorite films.
That being said m8, Vienna is probably the most beautiful and underrated city in the world. Not to mention that people like Lenin, Stephen Zweig, Freud, Beethoven, Marx, Hitler... all lived in Vienna during the golden epoque. Vienna was the cultural and intellectual hub.
And dont forget that London is far from a charming city. Vienna on the other hand is #1 in global quality of life and one of the safest places on earth.
This, she's still a beauty
>That being said m8, Vienna is probably the most beautiful and underrated city in the world
That's not how you spell Prague.
>hes never been to Vienna
You do realize that Prague is essentially a German/Austrian city right?
Well, if he is, it didnt translate into GBH
The most prevalent criticism of Wes Anderson's oeuvre is that he puts more effort into the his intricate dioramas than writing, plot, characters, etc. I don't find that to be an accurate criticism of his other movies, but it definitely fits here. All the sets are very ordered and detailed, to an absurd and frankly off-putting level. There's next to no character development in the movie; characters are whisked in and out before we get to know anything about them really. Kovacs has a cat and he's a lawyer. Agatha is a pastry-chef and has a Mexico-shaped birthmark. So what? Why should we care? The characters we do get any sort of real characterization of are either one-note baddies or one-note dandies (i.e. M. Gustave). Everyone is a complete caricature. It's almost funny that Anderson's two previous movies had much more rounded characters, and they starred animated foxes and children, respectively. The script is absolutely atrocious, flitting between sickening sentimentality and sudden-vulgarity-is-funny-right-guys?. It's also, tellingly, the first script written entirely by Anderson.
Perhaps most infuriating was Wes Anderson's use of emotional manipulation in the movie . He uses such things as the hotel being oppressed by the SS - sorry the "ZZ" - and Agatha being killed by the "Prussian grippe" as cheap methods of sympathy while also using them as stupid jokes. "ZZ" stands for "zig-zag," a joke that seems very characteristic of his sense of humour, but one that is totally inappropriate, especially given that the hotel isn't persecuted for any reason other than Nazis are mean and do bad things and are short-hand for bad guy. The tone-deaf preciousness is echoed in the "Prussian grippe" name; it's funny because the Spanish flu killed 50 million people? This sort of thing is practically unprecedented in Wes Anderson's movies, but then again there hasn't been one so hollow thus far so either.
The infuriatingness of his quasi-ideology doesn't end there either. I found M. Gustave to be a pretty terrible character, and yet the movie doesn't really try to satirize him so much as it lionizes him as a noble spirit from a bygone age or some such bs. He talks about treasuring things like "civilization" and the way things are supposed to be and Romantic poetry and "purity" in women which just makes me want to throw up. It just kind of encapsulates all the shitty things about the way Wes Anderson thinks into one truly unlikeable character.
Honestly, this movie was so bad I'm having paranoid thoughts that I don't actually like the rest of his movies. Is The Royal Tenenbaums actually any good? If I rewatch Rushmore will it seem just as bad?
tldr: A 1/5 movie
While the ZZ was an obvious allegory to the nazi's, it can probably be seen as a standin for the rise of ideological fanaticism in general. Nazi's makes the most sense given the story's setting in not-Austria. Regardless which particular ideological stream it was however, it meant the end of the great European empires. In that sense the movie portrayed the death of that world very well. Given the knowledge we as the public have (or are supposed to have) about European history, I think beneath that slightly comedic veneer is a very dark and depressing tale of the death of romanticism. Or rather our perception of that death, as Zero so aptly states in the movie 'To be frank, I think his world had vanished long before he ever entered it'.
>quips
>pop culture references
did we watch the same movie?
There weren't any, he's full of it.
I dont think extensive character development was really necessary for this movie desu. Zero and Gustave has plenty of characterization, even if it was only mentioned briefly. The author merely serves as a vehicle to tell the story and the rest of the characters arn't that important to the plot.
Dynamite in the sack, or so Ive heard
I thought it was really good but i didn't like how it got more cartoony as it went on its okay in something like fantastic mr fox but I was hoping it'd be more like Tenenbaums
I think explained the cartoonyness well.
I bet you enjoy the films of Wes Anderson: the thread
Pink is actually a really tough color to pull off as a building so there's a lot of skill involved kthxbye
Maybe he prefers this drab visage
*London* still has clout, not Britain
London gutted the rest of the country to sustain itself
A movie about a girl reading a book about an old man telling a story of when he was a young man listening to an old man tell him the story of when he was a young man.
Kino
I find this user rather drab.