Its literally the fucking battle of hoth

Its literally the fucking battle of hoth.

I enjoyed TFA on the basis that they were rebooting a franchise that was 40 years old and ignoring the prequels. I was completely fine with using a new hope as a blueprint.
But from the trailer it is painfully obvious they are just rehashing empire.
You can't rehash empire. It's impossible because Empire had a magic air about it, we were introduced to so many things and you cannot reintroduce magic ideas like yoda, the confrontation with vader and the assault on hot.

IF you do it and it looks like they are, this is officially fanfiction porn tier. but it's important to remember that this fanfiction rip off bullshit will still be better than the fucking prequels you fucking plebbitor /r/prequelmeme apologist cunts

are you kidding me? it's hella different, just look at all that red

>I enjoyed TRA

Opinion discarded, it was trash

Discussions like these should be for actual Star Wars fans

Fuck you cunt, I saw Empire and Jedi in the theatre on their first run.
It was 40 years ago and those films don't exist outside of VHS tapes and bootlegs and shitty rehashed fan edits. Remaking Star Wars made perfect sense, remaking Empire does not.
If you were under 18 when the phantom menace came out you're not allowed an opinion

Ugh no sweety, this is actually Coldth a warm desert planet where the Resistance™ is hiding from the New Order™

This OP, it aesthetic as FUCK. You're not a prequel loving fun hater are you user?

or first order, whatever

so this turret can only fire in one directionm and it cannot move those guns even one degree in any direction?

>Rebooting Star Wars made perfect sense

No, it didn't. The prequels were trash but at least had a spirited vision.

TFA was a soulless cash grab

>I enjoyed TFA on the basis that they were rebooting a franchise that was 40 years old and ignoring the prequels.
Except thats not true at all. They ignored all the character and story development from the original movies. You are fucking retarded user.

>TFA was a soulless cash grab
this
there was no imagination whatsoever it was basically a shot-for-shot remake of ANH.
I walked out of the theatre at the "it's like the death start only way bigger XD" scene

the part that really gets me is the at ats because you can just tell its gonna be another hoth

Even the war room on not-Yavin IV had the same exact cast with the same exact looking tech

There's a wheel in the back so they can probably swivel

>Rebellioun hiding from New Order

Fund it.

> t. it's like poetry it rhymes
But seriously, if the Ep. 7 rehash wasn't enough to make you jump ship then doing the SAME SHIT over again better be. Fucking good luck Disney, hope you rake in the cash, and goodbye Star Wars

>TFA was a soulless cash grab
Everything after Empire was a soulless cash grab you moron. Jedi sucked balls (except for lukes confrontation with the Emperor) and the production of jabbas palace.
There was no passion from anyone in the making of the prequels, they were just a toy advert. You colossal dipshit

Do you really believe Lucas originally intended to start and end a trilogy with episodes named 4-6?

my contrarian self would find something to disagree with you on but you're right.

Nice backpeddaling

The prequels had their moments, yet not a single scene in TFA was enjoyable, save the quips

you are a living meme

George claimed he had a story worked out for 4-6 in every interview after Star Wars, it was only until the mid 90's, specifically 1995 after production had already started that he started pretending it was all about vader.
It's horse shit and the only reason Empire was as good as it is was because lucas had fuck all to do with it outside of the basic story. he didn't direct or screenwrite it.
If you actually want to pretend to be a fan you should at least go and watch the interviews from the 80's and 90's

>The prequels had their moments
>yet not a single scene in TFA was enjoyable,
>save the quips

> tfw dumbass
Ep. 4 was released as "Star Wars" only. He realized he struck gold and then it was changed to "Star Wars Episode 4: A New Hope"

Hey old timer.

What do you think about all the man baby fans star wars has now days?

Did people in the seventies nerd out and clap and go nuts over Star Wars the same way back then?

>another remake

JESUS GODDAMN

Well, they're consistent with the first remake

no u
Ironic posting is hard to detect on Sup Forums I guess when everything is a shitpost

>Prequels had their moments
Not to anyone who wasn't younger than 18 they didn't.
I'm sorry your childhood was trash tier and modern day Hollywood had taken over. You missed out on the glory days of movies. That's not my problem.
The prequels are trash, 100% trash to the point when the director, writer and executive producer all knew it was trash. They were so fucking bad that George ragequit the entire thing and sold to Disney to escape his shame.

How does this prove its hoth 2?

Not him but why do things always degenerate into
Do you prefer the prequels or the reboot?

Why cant people hate both? or respect both for different aspects?

>Reddit spacing
>Shitposting on Sup Forums
>Star wars fan
>Calls others man baby

Stop roleplaying as an oldfag. You're pathetic user.

great job defending TFA by deflecting onto the prequels. Yeah they're shit too, so what?

I would believe that it was sure. like a marketing thing.

Hey everyone Star Wars Episode...

Four!?

Fucking this

Grew up with originals actually

I liked the opening to ep.3

The prequels were like TMNT 2, bad but laughable in that sense, whereas TFA is like TMNT 3, so bad it's just bad, but without any originality and less soul

Probably not the best analogy but I'm tired as fuck rn shitposting with sequel apologists

I was a kid for Star Wars and a teenager for Empire. There was nothing like it and the world went a bit crazy when they were released. But I'm from the uk so we didn't have clapping or anything.
Jedi was fine, but I think everyone knew there was something off about it after it came out.
I still think the ewoks are better than both Gungans and porgs, but then I'm biased (they are all fucking stupid though). I do know that according to Lucas he wanted the ewok battle to take place on the wookie planet, which woud have been far better than teddy bears ripping heads off stormtroopers

If you hate both then you like less than a third of the Star Wars franchise. You're not really a fan at that point

>reddit spacing

you don't have to like the shitty installments of a franchise to be ""true fan"" of something. And objectively speaking the majority of Star Wars as a franchise is shit.

Han and Chewie didn't help Rey escape the planet, they found them later. Other problems also.

I didn't mean this y'all. I meant like people in the videos their always making fun of in RedLetterMedia.

Like the ones screaming and going nuts when they see Han Solo and shit.

I am 100% sure they are actually purposely making these new movies poorly just to butt blast middle aged nerds

For me it's less about the films now and more about the environment surrounding them. While the prequels are certainly cash grabs, they seem less egregious than the data-driven, universally pandering reboot films. These films must make big bucks, so they're destined to be average. And so you either abandon Star Wars as a lost cause, or lower your expectations to fit the lowest common denominator

>super weapon the size of a moon that can destroy entire planets
>>super weapon the size of a PLANET that can destroy entire SOLAR SYSTEMS

Favorite part, such shamelessly artificiality.

If you think more than 2/3 of a franchise is composed of "shitty installments" then you're not a fan. I'm not criticizing you but you just aren't a fan of Star Wars at that point

newfags pls go

I guess they were pretty different from other things that were out at the time, so i can see what you mean.

Lol there are so many just objective and factual fucking flaws in this I could sit here all night and rip it apart.

Star Wars crybabies are the most hilarious crybabies there are.

So how hard is it to make a somewhat creative Star Wars film?
I mean you have space magic, aliens, space nazis and space wizards at your disposal. Why would you poorly imitate the first movies?
What makes matters worse is that even Star Wars videogames had a better and more interesting story than TFA or rogue one. And the video games didn't even have to rely on DUDE LOOK AT THIS THING YOU KNOW FROM PAST MOVIES, ISN'T IT GREAT?.

What is with this false dichotomy?
>If you hate the reboot you sure are a prequel lover...
Mimimimimimimi.....

The prequels where shit, the reboots are even shittier, just for different reasons.
Deal with it.

Truth/10

I have to agree. These movies do feel very cold and calculated.

Test

if we make it bigger its also better guys :DD

twice as bigger than the last war stars!!!

From a plot perspective it makes no sense from any angle. Plot isn't really something you need to play it safe with, and the story from the OT in the 70's isn't the most surefire thing to work today. But in terms of marketing it makes sense for them to rely on familiar imagery like the Hoth battle. The unfortunate thing is that the whole movie will likely echo ep. 5, instead of it just being a hook in the trailer.

>we just lost like 5 x wings
>that's a 1/4 of our fleet!!

they're getting in or this is clever commentary on how pleb this whole conversation is

Thank you.

The difference between the prequels and the reboots is this:
Lucas TRIED to make good movies and he failed.
Disney wanted to make SUCCESSFUL movies, and by doing so they made shitty dumb feminist movies.

All they need to do to make money is poorly imitate the first movies and plebs will see it because it's star wars. That's all they're looking for from this. They don't care about making a creative interesting film.

>I liked the opening to ep.3
your taste is garbage, there was no tension and we had no idea who was attacking who and why. Nobody knew what the fuck grevious was or why the totally not emperor was even there.
It was like watching the second part of a two parter without watching the first one.
You're opinions are wrong.
Empire>StarWars>>>>>>>>>>>>>>TFA=Jedi and completely forget about the prequel trash.

And the glorious epic battle turned way to quickly into a mini robot wrestling scene on top of a single fighter.

>TFA=Jedi

Utterly and objectively wrong.

>"First Order AT-ATs straight ahead"
>"How do we take them out sir?"
>"Remember what the rebels did in the ancient battle of Hoth? We gonna do just that"
>"He's on to something"

No, goyim, it's the battle of Soth™.

Also, instead of snow, it's sand; but not just any sand, sand that turns red when it gets stirred-up!

Also the AT-ATs and Tauntauns look slightly different.

Pre-order your tickets today!

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Did you not read the intro dialogue you old fart

>we had no idea who was attacking who and why.
I think that was just you user.

...but the Force is female, bro.

>sir they're even BIGGER than the AT-ATs on Hoth what do we DO?
>WE'LL JUST HAVE TO USE OUR EVEN BIGGER SHIPS WITH EVEN BIGGER CABLES

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I only watch the original trilogy at home, I've still got my 1995 executor VHS tapes and I haven't looked at the special editions since the early 2000's.
I enjoyed watching TFA in the theatre but I haven't seen it since it was released, same with rogue one although I liked that far less than TFA.
The Star Wars trilogy is timeless and a piece of cinematic history. The prequels and the sequels are just cash ins, but if we HAD to have the sequels (and I would have preferred he just left them the fuck alone and not bothered making more films) I'm still glad it's out of Georges hands because he doesn't know what he's doing.

>I liked the opening to ep.3

Ugh, why?

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lame

No the prequels are an affront to the original trilogy more abhorrent than the special editions. The TFA is just a cash in to make a billion dollar evil franchise but they are fine movies, especially for people who don't give a fuck about watching 40 year old movies, which is most people.

> no diversity on muh tv shows, better join isis
autism

>If you think more than 2/3 of a franchise is composed of "shitty installments" then you're not a fan. I'm not criticizing you but you just aren't a fan of Star Wars at that point

Take two fans. Fan A only likes ANH & TESB, fan B likes everything. Put them each into a separate room filled with every bit of Star Wars murchandise. Measure their Dopamine, Oxytocin, Serotonin, and Endorphin levels. WHat if fan A comes out on top?

You cannot measure enjoyment, user.

>this will end in galaxy sized AT-ATs fighting against galaxy sized ships
The only problem is if you can even fall in space since there is no up or down. But the Rebels probably just build a universe spanning floor.

Jedi was a masterpiece compared to the mary sue shit disney shat out three years ago.

THIS IS THE STUPIDEST SHIT EVER
>yo yo yo, what if at-ats had front legs like a gorilla??? and tusks like a prehistoric mammal??? creative! das rite

>this post
>that gif

Are you hitting on the force, user?

To be fair, the Crimson Corsair (Sidon Ithano) from Dinsneywars is pretty cool.

Sometimes I wish we were in John Titor's timeline. At least Hollywood is imploding from lack of sales and sexual scandals.

It felt like a War in Space

Well I'm not, maybe terrorist will blow up Disney. Fingers crossed.

why are they even committing to a ground assault? Can't they just glass the entire region from orbit with turbolasers?

that pretty much confirms Luke will get murdered by Kylo Ren. The only thing they will do different will be Kylo going back to the rebels and Rey going Dark side and that will be the final fight for the next one. Kylo getting killed saving Rey and Rey surviving and defeating the old man with slippers

oh my god they're really just remaking empire.

why do you care about star wars in the first place? it always was shit and will be shit forever

Jedi was superior only because it was made by the people who made Empire.
Judging the film as an actual film then Jedi is objectively of the same quality as Jedi. A mediocre film told with above average visuals and production values of it's time.
TFA's biggest plus is that it literally took everything the prequels did and throw it as far away as possible and tried to recreate the spirit of the original trilogy, only done by a devil corporation.

I would rather the sequels didn't exist, I'd rather the prequels didn't exist, above everything else I'd rather the special editions didn't exist so I could finally get a fucking full HD release of the OT instead of relying on VHS tapes but no matter how you want to judge them TFA and most likely the the new Jedi film is going to be a more entertaining movie than any of the prequels (and rogue one)

It was fine to assume 7 was a safe and easy reboot because the prequels were still fresh in peoples minds. Copying what worked to get the new trilogy off to a running start was a sound move. Continuing to rip off the OT isn't. Tbey really are just creatively bankrupt.

I could see it explained as the front feet are supposed to be support bracers to keep it in place for when it fires the turbolaser mounted on its back (similar to how artillery pieces have bracers). IDK what the chin things are for, though. They'll probably BS something about them in the new Incredible Cross-Sections book.

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Yeah because we had no strong female in the original trilogy...

But they're fighting right alongside each other. In ROTJ the ships were only so close because the Rebel fleet was trying its best not to get hit by the Death Star, in ROTS the ships have no reason to be that close to each other. But they are because GL did what he does best; took something from the OT and cranked it up to 11.

to be fair you have to have a very high IQ to understand shameless focus group designed shitfests designed to sell billions worth of cheap merchandise to children. to be completely fair.

good point

>I'd rather the special editions didn't exist so I could finally get a fucking full HD release of the OT instead of relying on VHS tapes

Same here.