Paranatural

>my name's Flipflop and i'm here to say, my name's Flipflop in a major wayT DO OVER, DO OVER

What the fuck happened to his line quality?

>Wide establishing shot
>Block half of it to avoid drawing it
>Yet another new plot line out of nowhere
What a hack.

Mayview has a subway system?

It's her spirit's realm.

Ha. Box turtle. Also what a nice collection of cute Isabels on this page.

So Cane of Pacci powers. Makes sense, good versatile power. Doesn't really fit an umbrella theme, but whatever.

>another fucking spirit world conversation
UUUUUGGGGGHHHHH

I got really confused for a second there as to where Isabel was. This spirit's world is a subway? That's pretty cool.

The pun is the only good part of the Box Turtle. It's really not as good a design as some of the other spirits.
Maybe it's related to the way umbrellas invert?

>Block half of it to avoid drawing it
Because parallel lines do not converge in a single vanishing point and the perspective is fucked up. Isabel's panel is simply there to hide the fact that the scene wouldn't make sense.

The creativity of this spirit and spirit world is so limited, it's just one panel of an empty subway and no other background panels. It's just a fucking homeless turtle. Lazy fuck.

That's too clever for Zack

I think it kinda works in that we're looking around and abruptly notice something weird and out-of-place - just like her.

I had to go back to refresh myself on what exactly Isabel and Spender were doing. Jesus, I'd forgotten how long the date between blind lady and hijab doctor was. Christ.

Zack isn't that clever.

>not that clever
Zack designed Lucifer on a ghost light and made its design element a bird in a cage casting a shadow cage on another shadow. He's very clever with design, but his plotting and pacing is getting horrible.

So Trash Turtle is going to be her new spirit?

Not a fan of his hat. It's a bit much.
Looks like a fucking nintendo one.

I just came to see how mad you'd all be about another new plot thread introduced

Out of 0-10? About a 3. At least this involves one of the main characters since the beginning, and I've already long given up hope of the comic being completed.

Not necessarily. She can use their spirit talk to search faster. That is, if the internet works in this place. Wich would be weird now that i think about it.
Geez.

It's not really a plot thread, we were due an explanation on her new spirit partner since the start of the chapter.

Well we knew she had a new spirit so at least its not out of left field, though hopefully there's a good reason for this happening now.

That said I really could do without another spirit world conversation and character introduction, especially while something supposedly tense and time sensitive is happening, to slow it all down.

I guess we'll see

>getting horrible
It's been horrible for a while now.

There's probably some kind of reason (given that she's had the umbrella for a little while now), but it's probably retarded, like "Oh, I thought I had better introduce myself sooner or later".

how much time has passed since they started looking, less than half 15 minutes?

I really like how the window got turned into subway ads, that's pretty clever,

So 8-fold was pretty spunky, and although a weaker spirit, could take care of herself nicely. I take it Mr. Guera gave this spirit to Isabel so she'd have to look after it and help it be brave as 8-fold looke after her.

Now i wonder.. can human spirits also become tools? it would be.. interesting.

pic unrelated.

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The placeholder gays aren't zarei and day, they're the prime gays.

three pages of this at minimum with next page ending in an awkward silence + funny sweating faces. then we go back to issac and i swear to god he better have hijack or i will be sad

>Does a down panel transition.
>Does not use this when the turtle is actually falling down into his box.
>Instead uses a bad ghosting effect.

Zack's compositional skills are just bad.

It actually doesn't, because she's the focus of the panel.

>four panels of isabel standing next to a turtle

bravo zack

this page isn't exactly stellar, but y'all are SERIOUSLY over exaggerating the problems with it. The only legit complaint I've seen so far that's actually problematic is point about the establishing shot

I bet it starts like "Oh, I thought I had better introduce myself sooner or later" lightheartedness but then the page will end with a closeup on flipflop's eyes where he looks serious and then the next page(s) will be where he reveals the real reason that he is doing this now

No? I've yet to see a point that isn't valid in this thread.

Criticism does not inherently imply a position on quality, it's simply acknowledgement and pinpointing perceived faults in the craft. Even great art can be criticized, and there's nothing wrong with that. Reflection on these things is how people in the arts develop their skills and styles.

People are harsh on Zack because his pages aren't in isolation. He's been making similar choices for years and they've become more pronounced over time. You're giving the same spiel about being "too harsh" that people parroted during the Forge chapter, yet his recurring problems have continued to grow in severity.

Zack before: "you guys are pairing kids? disgusting, no romance in paranatural!"

Zack now: "hey guys, those kids are totally munching carpets"

bump

>alt text isn't "I'm not your buddy, guy"

yeah bc kids have to fuck if they're gay. They can't just find another girl attractive, they have to reenact pornos

>mfw that expression
>mfw that personality
>mfw that hat
>mfw I finally noticed his pants are a trashbag
shit how adorable

>I'm 23 years old, and
I laughed

The point is, sexuality is a thing, or it isn't. It can't be "okay when it's gay" and unacceptable when people try to make straight pairings.

>kids have to fuck if they're gay
being gay literally means you're attracted to cock (if man) or puss (if woman)

Kids being couples is up to writers, wanting kids to be couples is (arguably) creepier when it's non-canon. I think he mostly takes the precaution due to all the lewd underage shipping art there is.
You're either a moron or a poor troll, but being gay means being attracted to the same sex/gender. It doesn't have to be sexual. People like people for people, not just for dick/vag.

>Yet another new plot line out of nowhere
seems a continuation of her story with her getting a new spirit, not a new plotline.

>Kids being couples is up to writers
I'm talking about the double standards of wanting/don't wanting kids to be a couple

>I think he mostly takes the precaution due to all the lewd underage shipping art there is
and somehow he is okay with Maxaac

>It doesn't have to be sexual
"liking" is basically a sexual impulse. Are you really defending that people start romantic relationships only to hold hands?

He doesn't want others shipping the kids, though if he's alright with Maxaac then I guess he's fine with it and idg the issue. Also he didn't want Paranat to be a romance thing, it's not just because it's "disgusting"
user believe it or not some people enjoy beauty and romance and don't only think with their dicks. Have you not had crushes when you were a kid? Were those crushes based around "I wanna fuck"? Kids can find each other attractive and just kiss and hold hands at the most. Attraction doesn't automatically become sexual, straight or not.

Zack is a hypocrit who thinks that fujos shipping Max and Isaac is funny so he doesn't care but when guys ship girls he sees it as sexual so he gets uncomfortable. It's a double standard.

To be fair, any yaoi ship involving Isaac fits his theme.
JoSaac ship is superior tho

I kind of assumed the bad ghosting effects were turtle's powers. He fell on his back but ghost powers turned him around, maybe some sort of directional powers

>Kids can find each other attractive and just kiss and hold hands at the most
I think you're talking about 8 years old, who just wants to 'pretend to be an adult'.

>he didn't want Paranat to be a romance thing
>proceeds to put 5 gays in it

So under your logic all underage straight boys and girls are humping like wild rabbits

no, I'm talking about kids who feel attraction because that's something humans feel besides the need to bang someone.
yes, as well as plenty of straights. Only two characters are involved in anything close to romantic plot, and one of them could be being strategic about it.

>plenty of straights
Such as?

No but they wish they were

>tumblr
not even once.

I ship Johnny and Erina