I was actually suprised by this because Sup Forums have been praising it which is rare.
Xavier Jones
I would bump Green Lanterns up higher than Half Jordan and the Green Lantern Corps
Thomas Reyes
>Critics confirmed for shit taste
What else is new?
Cyborg gets 6.9, Hellblazer 7.0 but WW, shich is like watching paint dry gets 8.6? C'mon! This is bull.
Hunter Turner
>Superman rated higher than Batman
This pleases me.
Aiden Taylor
>8.3 All-Star Batman What are these people smoking?
It's okay. Hasn't really just told a compelling story.
Christian Edwards
Batman has been painfully mediocre which saddens me.
Kevin Nelson
Fuck Rucka and fuck critic people
Brayden Campbell
Why Rebirth is bleeding faster than N52? It's seems very well received and many fans like it. So, what went wrong? (I'm talking about Rebirth in general)
Cameron Davis
In my opinion, it's because they had a higher debut because of the hype but the stories are not actually that better, and in a lot of cases worst
They win by double shipping the titles that sell more while not publishing minor titles that would sell 15k in the New 52
But the New 52 made the industry grow 15% from 2011 to 2012, while the industry only grew 0.3% from 2015 to 2016, the worst growth ever since (admittedly, this is also Marvel's fault)
The media and a portion of the fans will keep crucifying the New 52, though.
Grayson Harris
*and in a lot of cases are worse
Jonathan Lopez
>Tom King Batman higher than a 7 Opinion discarded
Samuel Stewart
>They win by double shipping the titles that sell more while not publishing minor titles that would sell 15k in the New 52
But they do.
Dominic Harris
>New Super-Man gets rated poorly >Nightwing below ASB >Deathstroke below anything at all
Mason Diaz
As you can see, in the same timespan Wonder Woman is still selling (on average) about 4k more than in the New 52. But the debut was much higher.
So it's obviously a case of overhype (also helped by the movies) and then not actually being any better and only around the same amount of people keep buying it as they always did.
The drop between the 2 issues from the same month is a lot smaller than the drop between months. And WW in particular is basically 2 titles, so it's easier to look at it by the average of the month. because it's basically people dropping 2 different books at the same rate.
Benjamin Powell
>New Super-Man It's one of the best reviewed books. How the heck it's rated "poorly"?
And while I really like Deathstroke, there's no denying that it's really overrated here.
>And while I really like Deathstroke, there's no denying that it's really overrated here I have to agree with this.
Brody Ortiz
In ratings order because OP is a fag
8.6 Wonder Woman (2016) 8.4 Superman (2016) 8.3 All-Star Batman 8.2 Detective Comics (2016) 8.1 Red Hood and the Outlaws (2016) 8.1 New Superman 8.0 Hal Jordan And The Green Lantern Corps 8.0 Green Arrow (2016) 8.0 Flash (2016) 7.9 Trinity (2016) 7.9 Suicide Squad (2016) 7.9 Harley Quinn (2016) 7.9 Deathstroke (2016) 7.8 Nightwing (2016) 7.8 Batman (2016) 7.8 Aquaman (2016) 7.7 Titans (2016) 7.6 Batgirl (2016) 7.6 Action Comics (2016) 7.5 Teen Titans (2016) 7.5 Blue Beetle (2016) 7.4 Supergirl (2016) 7.4 Green Lanterns 7.1 Batman Beyond (2016) 7.0 Superwoman 7.0 Hellblazer (2016) 6.9 Cyborg (2016) 6.7 Justice League (2016) 6.7 Batgirl and the Birds of Prey
Jose Barnes
You know what all of these scores say? The critics are pussies who just like this stuff because it has their favorite characters. Pretty much everything from Rebirth has been a tiresome snoozefest that I feel like I already read a hundred times. Not awful, but nothing special. Take about 3 points off of each score for a more accurate rating.
>Wonder Woman >8.6 I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
Caleb Robinson
The only books I've felt were worth a shit from Rebirth have been Deathstroke and New Super-Man. On everything else I completely agree with you.
Xavier Peterson
I find it more probable that most people are just too thick to understand it. Reading comprehension really has gone down the shitter recently. People actually need to be spoonfed what's happening in Deathstroke , it's sad.
Wyatt Cox
>The most interesting books in general are the non-AAA titles
It's like the New 52
Cooper Allen
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John King
most people dont want to put effort into things because they are either too lazy or apathetic and it makes them all stupid and annoying to be around, i have 1 friend who tries to read comics but just cant be bothered to give a fuck about anything so he just reads the punisher regardless of run
Tyler Wilson
>7.9 Deathstroke (2016) >8.2 Detective Comics (2016) >8.0 Flash (2016) >8.0 Green Arrow (2016) This make no sense, Priest Deathstroke is better than all of them
Ryder Miller
and Sup Forums turns on rebirth
Lincoln Fisher
thats just one wrong opinion
Jason Morales
Random, but are we getting the solicitations today or tomorrow?
Charles Ortiz
>critics hahahahahahaha
Elijah Rivera
I think today? I'm not really sure.
Chase Turner
Didn't you hear? Critics are now the only source of determining quality now.
Leo Brooks
They usually out on Monday, but CB said Tuesday and I can't tell if they made a mistake or is it indeed tomorrow.
Bentley Nelson
The shilling is strong. I'm a Wondyfag and even I thought that shit was boring and mediocre.
Chase Butler
>Harley Quinn on par or better than Deathstroke, Nightwing, Aquaman, Green Lanterns or Batman
Nobody in the media is an actual comic critic, you know
Landon Gonzalez
Interestingly enough, the fans score have Superman, Wonder Woman and RHATO as top 3 highest rebirth books and Justice League is the lowest.
Also, Deathstroke has higher score with the fans than critics while New Super-Man is lower.
Joshua Evans
Comic reviews are a joke. The fact that so many review singles rather than story arcs/trades is laughable given how almost all comics now are not written in an episodic fashion.
Hunter Stewart
There's nothing wrong with reviewing single issues, considering we floppy readers judge the books on single issue as well. But I agree that comic reviews are a joke.
Benjamin Phillips
>only vote for Green Lanterns
what's going on? The storytimes are full
Nathan Torres
I thought the same, I didn't vote for green lanterns because I didn't buy last week's issue, was it good? It's always been a series on the fence for me that I really only cut out because I spent too much money on comics.
Cameron Scott
Deathstroke is rated higher than NSM by the fans? I have to admit that I'm suprised by this.
Colton Allen
You are going to love this...but Sup Forums literally has the worst taste in the world. Literally everybody else loves most of Rebirth, WW and TEC in particular because, they are actually good.
Jose Green
>RHATO on top 3 Nice. It's really great book.
Justin Davis
Because people enjoy it, but not enough to pay for it. The poll is about your pull list
Xavier Williams
I'm pretty tired of very single issue making you listen to Simon and Jessica's whining about how unworthy they are of the rings.
Looks like you won't get your wish come Wednesday.
Logan Morales
Don't take this poll seriously, user.
Oliver Long
>All this batman, superman, wonder woman blowing up over DS/New Superman
Only Superman is even good of those 3, why is Sup Forums so shit?
Jaxon Thomas
Here are the Fan Ratings: >8.4 Wonder Woman (2016) >8.4 Superman (2016) >8.3 Red Hood and the Outlaws (2016) >8.2 Detective Comics (2016) >8.1 Titans (2016) >8.1 Trinity (2016) >8.1 New Superman >8.0 Aquaman (2016) >8.0 Hal Jordan And The Green Lantern Corps >8.0 Harley Quinn (2016) >8.0 Deathstroke (2016) >8.0 Flash (2016) >7.9 Nightwing (2016) >7.9 Action Comics (2016) >7.8 Hellblazer (2016) >7.8 Batman (2016) >7.8 Green Arrow (2016) >7.6 Green Lanterns >7.6 Suicide Squad (2016) >7.5 All-Star Batman >7.5 Batgirl (2016) >7.4 Teen Titans (2016) >7.4 Cyborg (2016) >7.2 Batgirl and the Birds of Prey >7.2 Blue Beetle (2016) >7.1 Supergirl (2016) >6.5 Batman Beyond (2016) >6.2 Superwoman >6.1 Justice League (2016)
Thomas Reyes
GET HITCH OFF JL
Liam Torres
So fans are actually enjoying King's Batman more than Snyder's?
John Watson
>6.5 Batman Beyond (2016) >6.2 Superwoman >6.1 Justice League (2016) Ouch
Jaxson Murphy
only snyder stories i liked was the court of owls stuff, death of the family and endgame. So far i liked kings run besides the first one featuring gotham girl and gotham.
Jeremiah Price
Is green lanterns really that bad? I really enjoyed those first few issues, I just haven't read comics in a while
Jaxon Young
>60 titles sold 100 000 copies wow that's nearly as much as the worst One piece volume!
Colton Stewart
the issues around Halloween to now are pretty alright, the phantom ring arc is a pretty cool idea
Cameron Lopez
It's pretty meh with occasional good spots
Really repetitive though
Ayden Miller
im sure cosmo magazine also sells more but its still vapid horseshit
Jose Thompson
I think it's not a "good" book, in an objective sense, but I think it's a very strong, silver age esque, just for fun read, which is what Cyborg has needed. Fun
Inb4 DCEU comment about fun
Matthew Miller
I enjoy it a lot. Made a fantastic villain with the Phantom Ring.
Cameron Rogers
This sounds far more accurate
Ryder Gomez
First arc was weak, but the character stuff is fantastic
Nicholas Rivera
I had heard good things about the first couple issues of Superwoman.
But the bottom of the list is the bottom.
I'm reading WW but it's is FAR from the best Rebirth book.
Is Hal Jordan and the GL Corps really that good? seemed pretty shitty to me
Kevin White
Hal and the Corps is basically just a return to form and I imagine most readers are happy just from that alone. First 2 arcs have been serviceable and I'll continue reading it.
Liam Taylor
>butthurt Azzfags His run isnt that much different from other runs or stories that used the gods and its most likely they had to count his run with Finch's run so that pprobably dragged it down a bit in others mind. Just cuz Sup Forums likes to forget Azz didnt finish on WW doesnt mean other didnt.
Landon Cox
Meh.. Wait and see how fast these numbers will drop and how "critics" rating won't matter. If you can't get people to care and buy I don't care how "good" something is. Unless DC does not want to make money. And Rebirth WW is not good. It's a long dragged out snoozefest.
Lincoln Thomas
are you new to comics?
Dominic Carter
>its still vapid horseshit And capeshit isn't?
Matthew Hill
why do you even come here?
Jaxson Hughes
>Sup Forums is only for capeshit you literally never spent more than a day there yourself, horseshit eater.
Ryan Smith
well im glad you're getting all your gay ass cartoon news from a DC rebirth thread you butthurt retard, jesus do you have anything better to do than be angry on the internet you apathetic manchild?
Dylan Cook
Is Abnett staying on Aqua Man or is he leaving after Deluge?
Leo Morales
Superwoman gets trashed but Cucka's still in the lead Guess there are a lot of angry Loisfags.
Samuel Allen
He's solicited as the writer through March.
Owen Hernandez
i hope they do more with aquman and meras relationship and potentionally have an aquakid on the way
Hudson Allen
>Arthur being allowed happiness Not how it works. I wonder what the hell will happen to Black Manta next issue? Seems like Arthur might finally put an end to him but I loved how earlier in the issues Mera had absolutely no problem at all putting down a dangerous threat like Black Manta who could pose problems later. That makes her absolute waifu material.
I'd really love to see Abnett move onto Hal Jordan and the Green Lantern Corps after his stint on Aqua Man is over and done with, possibly my two favourite Rebirth ongoings at the moment.
Julian Barnes
for comics that are actually good, not for capeshit
Christian Edwards
but you're on a capeshit thread, ok cool, makes sense, man you're smart
Ryan Hall
what are you even talking about?
Anthony Phillips
I think Abnett could do a good GLC run
Elijah Evans
I can be curious about the medium.
Justin Howard
then be curious and ask questions or read something, dont just show up to shitpost
Evan Rogers
He's good at political intrigue and I'd like to see how he'd do a run with the Green Lantern and Sinestro Corps running things together now.