Rotten Tomatoes - or how I learned to make my mediocre 6/10 capeshit into perfect scores.
No other site has inflicted as much damage on the medium as Rotten Tomatoes has. The entire site inherently promotes the mediocre safe 6/10 films. If you have all critics giving your film a mediocre/passable score, then your RT meter will be 100% ALL CRITICS APPROVE.
This creates a system where a polarizing film, where some give it almost a perfect and some hate it, will actually have a less RT score, way less, than the mediocre 6/10 capeshit.
>b-but you can look at the actual score beneath the meter Yes you can but that's clearly not the point of the site, as it's the Yes/No meter that is displayed in big red numbers for all to obsess about. Metacritic is much fairer and honest than RT. RT is currently pushing filmmakerse into making safe, derivative garbage so long as they can barely please critics.
to be fair its a fine meter to use for people looking to go the cinema for entertainment. if you want to use it to have an actual opinion on the film, its not ideal
Evan Phillips
How is it any better than Metacritic? It's so deceptive and fake. You can find numerous geniune works of art scoring less than the mediocre 6/10 capeshit because some retard critic missed the point and gave it a negative mark.
Metacritic is objectively better in every way.
Carter Myers
desu I dont use any consensus website as blind scores for any film seem a bit strange. maybe I'll go off the critics I like and see what they say.
Lucas James
It's the perfect tool for Disney's marketing body, which is why it's being turned into a big deal now. When the mediocre trash becomes perfect, Disney wins.
Joshua Wilson
The state of critics and the audience. Nobody wants to form their own opinion, they either want to be on the popular side and echo what everyone else is saying, or be contrarian so they can look special. Critics used to analyze how a filmmaker utilized techniques to tell a story visually, and applaud artists who contributed something radical and new. Now it's like a Yelp review, was it fun? Was it too slow or too fast? Did it meet pre-conceived expectations?
It must be suffering seeing his medium crumble down right before his eyes like Scorsese has. Critics went from being respected and educated to screaming children demanding more quips or whatever their twitter feed is telling them to think.
Jacob Morales
>complaining about misleading objective metric for subjective metrics >while saying "objectively better" Oh the irony
Lucas Martin
I'm saying Metacritic is objectively better, not that Metacritic is objective. Learn the difference.
Ayden Lopez
No, you nonce. "Better" is an inherently qualitative word. Nothing in any context can ever be objectively better or worse than anything else. And yet, despite not knowing this basic fact, you're decrying RT for making an objective metric for comparing subjectivity.
Dominic Adams
Even if two metrics are subjective, one can objectively be better than the other at capturing subjectivity.
For instance, a 1-10 scale is objectively superior to a 1-2 scale for judging the subjective feelings on film.
Hudson Thomas
it seems directors are slowly coming out and saying the obsession with box office is killing the industry (artistically)
Samuel Murphy
No, you obtuse fool. Better and worse, superior and inferior, are qualitative words. There is no situation in the English language where you can use "objective" as a qualifier. You're probably not even aware that it's grammatically incorrect because it's become so commonly abused, but you're using obectively as an intensifier when you can't. Much like the bastardization of literally, ironically, and other such words, you can't just drop objectively in front of any word. Only quantitative words can be preceded by "objectively." Things can be objectively faster, objectively taller, objectively longer, objectively heavier, but things cannot be objectively better, objectively funnier, objectively tastier, etc.
For the record, I agree that metacritic is a better measure for gauging a movie's relative quality.
Kayden Cooper
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Josiah Ramirez
>There is another change that, I believe, has no upside whatsoever. It began back in the '80s when the "box office" started to mushroom into the obsession it is today. When I was young, box office reports were confined to industry journals like The Hollywood Reporter. Now, I'm afraid that they've become … everything. Box office is the undercurrent in almost all discussions of cinema, and frequently it's more than just an undercurrent. The brutal judgmentalism that has made opening-weekend grosses into a bloodthirsty spectator sport seems to have encouraged an even more brutal approach to film reviewing. I'm talking about market research firms like Cinemascore, which started in the late '70s, and online "aggregators" like Rotten Tomatoes, which have absolutely nothing to do with real film criticism. They rate a picture the way you'd rate a horse at the racetrack, a restaurant in a Zagat's guide, or a household appliance in Consumer Reports. They have everything to do with the movie business and absolutely nothing to do with either the creation or the intelligent viewing of film. The filmmaker is reduced to a content manufacturer and the viewer to an unadventurous consumer.
based Scorsese
Michael Morris
"These firms and aggregators have set a tone that is hostile to serious filmmakers — even the actual name Rotten Tomatoes is insulting. And as film criticism written by passionately engaged people with actual knowledge of film history has gradually faded from the scene, it seems like there are more and more voices out there engaged in pure judgmentalism, people who seem to take pleasure in seeing films and filmmakers rejected, dismissed and in some cases ripped to shreds. Not unlike the increasingly desperate and bloodthirsty crowd near the end of Darren Aronofsky's mother!"
Isaac Davis
>DCucks are STILL mad
Asher Green
Metacritic is the same shit problem
Jaxon Watson
>There is no situation in the English language where you can use "objective" as a qualifier OP is objectively a faggot
Dylan Bennett
Nuance is dead. Not just in film criticism but in every aspect of our culture. Everything is polarized. RT is just a reflection of that. Learn to live with it, because it's not gonna get better for at least 10 years.
Anthony Long
Your "daily" reminder.
James Turner
>disney spectator sport wanker imagine being this pathetic
Angel Collins
geez, for a site named after one of the shlockiest 80's flicks ever, they sure act high and mighty when it comes to movies way better than their namesake.
Jeremiah Martinez
Metacritic is nowhere as polarizing, where films are more accurately scored due to an average score and not a Yes/No statement. is right. There is no more nuance left. Everything is being boiled down to binaries. People don't have time and energy to actually see the shades of grey. Reality is much more comfortable when you box everything into either bad or good.
Levi Johnson
>Redditcore trash has a rotten score >True kino has a fresh score Nothing wrong with this.
Angel Morris
>true passion
James Stewart
>"safe" films aimed at a broad audience were never a thing before rottentomatoes