Old Crazy Cyclops

Question: Why is adult Cyclops considered crazy?

All he did was make a inhuman peanut cloud not kill mutants (heck it wasn't even him, it was Emma).

And this is somehow a bad thing because?

I mean, does Marvelreally expect us to support Inhuman and their peanut holocaust cloud of death and support them driving Mutants to extinction? Because it seems like Marvel is trying to paint the X-Men as "Evil Invaders" against the Poor Inhumans because they don't want to be gassed to death (and we are suppose to support gassing of minorities?).

Bobby is just thinking with his dick.

Bobby is one of those stupid "LGBT for Islam" faggots, evidently.

Because "Cyclops is Hitler" was a narrative decided before they actually had an idea for why he was Hitler.
Marvel for whatever reason got cold feet either be it because writers pushed against it or because they couldn't have a "ambiguously sided" hero v hero event in which one half is fighting in defense of Hitler's legacy. And now it's all just a garbled mess of conflicting messages.
doesn't help that they wanted to make Cyclops the villain before and a lot of fans found little fault in Cyclops each time they tried to push harder.

it's the result of editors not knowing what they are doing, and the writers not caring

he really is, he literally let his family got raped by mistmen, while he himself escaped with his muslim boyfriend

Marvel is butthurt that people chose the X-Men over Inhumans. IvX is their way of having their cake and eating it
>Fine! We'll stop the inhuman gas cloud and shilling the Inhumans in X books
>But we're gonna try and make the X-Men look like dicks for not wanting to die to shame you all!

There are no winners in a race war. You know, Beast's idea of evacuating this shithole of a planet is sounding better by the moment.

bad writing

That's wrong, the winners just don't write about it so their neighbors don't judge them.

Beast is a race traitor. The Mutants shouldn't have to leave because the Inhumans infected Earth with their fart cloud.

>2017
>People still don't understand how Heel Turns work

>doesn't help that they wanted to make Cyclops the villain before and a lot of fans found little fault in Cyclops each time they tried to push harder.
Rightclops truely is unstoppable, every time they tried to make him into Wrongclops with Schism and AvX and shit, he just became more right.

>Cyclops is wrong
>It's explicitly someone elses fault that happened

Except all the comics are saying the X-Men are wrong/evil for wanting to get rid of the killer fartcloud of death and wanting to protect their lives. It's why Iceman leaves the X-Men. Because the X-Men have gone too far wanting to stop a extinction gas holocaust cloud.
It's also why Marvel is having the cite innocent pure Moon Girl and Kamala fight Magneto and the X-Men, because they are good guys. Not the evil muties.

>implying the victorious civilization "winning" negates their war crimes and acts of genocide.
>unaware that all winning empires fall. There is no exception to this rule.
>subjugated losers then shit all over the winning side, after it's crumbled.
>ignorant of the fact that this is how Christianity started.
>user has just been giving a history lesson.

No, they should want to leave for all the other reasons. Marvel Earth sucks anyway, every other week someone's trying to destroy it.

>try to make Cyclops into a villain
>accidentally give him Sniktbub's spot as the edgy guy who sticks it to the man and is popular

This implies that the X-men have never been wrongly accused before, of course, everytime they are accused of being terrorists and evil, Magneto is involved. And it seems like that is holding true, maybe muties shouldn't let known global terrorists join and lead their ranks

Iceman hasn't been the same since Bendus ruined him.

Very true. Mutants seem more like biological weapons of mass destruction than actual people.

lol

there are thousands of dead communities and peoples who weren't lucky enough to get back on top and bitch about it

Iceman is thinking with his hole

And they can never just let mutants live their lives, they ALWAYS have to show up some place public and announce that said person is a mutant and now they are in danger. And if they tell them to fuck off the muties give them a guilt trip about letting their people down and all this other shit, as if mutants have an actual culture to refer to themselves as a collective People.

It'd be cool if mutants stopped forcing on race wars and just focuses on being heroes

I hope Iceman die from the terrigen mist.
It's not the X-men fault if the inhuman destroyed all of their terrigen crystals and they have all the right to save their species.

That was mostly before the philosophy of hegemonic victory was adopted.

Marvel is just totally tone deaf and has been since at least Civil War 1, a shitty political allegory where they had to have the registration side do out of character douche things because it was otherwise too reasonable.

If the losers survived the race war, the winners obviously didn't actually win.

Probably becasue, like most of the x men, they annoy me and usually act hypocritical
>constantly consort with terrorists helbent on either mudering humans of forcing them into being muties
>Storm can control weather and spends most of her time at the school but doesn't do anything to make a safe haven for muties on earth
>Magik acts like an adrenaline junkie constantly going off to do things even though shes the only reason anyone living in limbo doesnt get ravaged by demons
>in attacking the inhumans they claim to want to just take out key players, move a ton of inhumans into the middle of limbo to fend for themselves causing the death and mutilation of them
>Somehow cant sympathize despite being in the slightly the same position around AvX in that a leader seeing his people suffering and dwindling aims to revitalize them through drastic means
>Except that was the universe's most destructive force, this is a cloud that can be avoided by simply leaving the planet
>X dont take a page from the inhumans and succed in creating a soverign nation, with all the things they need to survive
Though i think they did try that with utopia while they were the Pheonix force?
>know the location of every mutant on earth yet somehow instead of thelping them before something happens they wait till a scene has developed and then intervene
> meanwhile inhumans follow their cloud around, get muties out of its way and help any coccons & inhumans they find to accept their inhumanity

Just a reminder that Storm is by far the worst leader the xmen ever had, last time she was in charge everyone lost their memories and we're exiled to Australia

isn't she being led by charles' psycic projection now though?

No, that is just a stressed induced hallucination.

>we're
Oh fuck a mutant.

I may be a mutie, but I sure as hell ain't no X-Man

Muties move on. This is an Inhuman board.

Fuck you, Medusa

It's stuff like this that makes me glad that Fox owns the X Film rights.

Marvel doesn't deserve to have their film rights back when they treat their X-Men so badly.

Why can't they just send O5 back home already?

Rightclopse goes in the trash bin labeled "potential" right next to Ultimate Reed.

Which isn't either character's fault, it's Marvel's.

This is my point, exactly. Earth is a piece of shit. There are so many better planets out there. There's Lila Cheney's Dyson Sphere. Anywhere is better.

Race war and genocide aren't the same thing. Not everyone subscribed to Nazism.

It's Hopeless

Just when you thought a comic event couldn't be as stupid and poorly thought out as CW2, along comes IvX and wins the title with ease.

>Because the X-Men have gone too far wanting to stop a extinction gas holocaust cloud.
Does he not realize that he's murdering himself by not opposing the Terrigen cloud?

because they wanted him vilified but didn't think it through and have him do something actually horrific

He fought anti mutant extremism with pro mutant extremism
Which never works

How was he Wright in avx

Which is fucking hilarious since tons of comments and characters mention they aren't didn't know or denounce Cyclop's cloud killing when they either saw what he did, or helped him do it.

Fucking Magik helps him, then acts like she was never involved, then goes and does something WORSE in XvsI.

Why do you think someone up top compared him to "LGBT for Islam"?

>implying it's the marvel movie divisions fault

How wasn't he?

>Rightclops truely is unstoppable

Soon he will be so right, that he'll have to make three turns when he wants to go left.

>X dont take a page from the inhumans and succed in creating a soverign nation, with all the things they need to survive
They've done that multiple times.

Every single time, some fucko human musters an army of Sentinels to blow it up.

As opposed to the Inhumans, who find world governments bending over backwards to help them.

He used an uncontrollable entity and tried to control it, even though he should know better

Poor Magneto, he just wants an island to be left alone on.

The Phoenix Force seemed pretty controllable when Jean was using it for two years before the Hellfire Club fucked her in the brain.
Why did the Phoenix Five lose control again? Oh that's right, because the Avengers kept aggravating them.
The same Avengers that caused the Phoenix split and not bond with the chosen host in the first place.
The same Avengers who started the who conflict by invading Scott's peaceful and sovereign nation IN THE FIRST PLACE.

That wasnt the last time she led
Also you're wrong, she was acting like rightclops literally decades before it became a meme

An asteroid is fine too.

Cyclops is literally worse than Hitler

X bump

The Inhumans are using some of members to basically mind rape them, like that lesbo tranny Swain.

Why the fuck does everyone forget Rachel?

Heck even fucking Quentin was stable with it in that future.

The only reason the Phoenix turns someone crazy is mind fuckery and unwanted interference.

Jean is a nymphomaniac and sociopath by nature. Xavier curbed those innate behaviors in Jean. Claremont, himself, established the Phoenix was corrupted by Jean Grey and her inner darkness. She caused a supernova and killed 5 billion people to achieve a vaginal orgasm, according to Claremont.

Yeah everyone forgets that Mastermind was mindfucking Jean and making her go crazy. someone should compile numbers, Dark Phoenix is the exception

Well Xavier was lusting after her so I wouldn't expect him to have done a great job with that.

She was always a shit hole anyway who turned into a saint via Gwen Stacy method.

>Question: Why is adult Cyclops considered crazy?

Marlel doesn't own his movie rights.

For Bobby not realize the cloud has killed so many mutants, is still killing mutants, will make the earth lethal to all mutants living on it, and kill him and his friends? Is he that dumb/horny to betray and let his race die!

Well his bf is an empath and manipulates emotions?

To be fair, everyone and everything in this story is dumb.

I thought we were would be done with dumb badly-written events after CW2.

Why would you think that?

Hope.

(OP is an idiot)

As far as the rest of the X-Men cast know (with a few exceptions) Scott Summers was the guy who alienated all of his friends one after another, abandoned all of the principles he had, rejected Xavier and embraced Magneto, created the X-Men's schism, threatened the world with displays of militant mutant power, started a war with the Avengers,
AND THEN grabbed godlike power for his own purposes and remade the world as he saw fit,
AND THEN murdered his adopted father for (as of yet) no known reason,
and then after being broken out of prison repeatedly declared mutant revolution and claimed to devote the rest of his life to Xavier's ideals.
AND THEN died trying to start a race war.

This is not consistent behavior.
Some of these actions and declared goals contradict one another.
Those are the kinds of things that define insane behavior.
Is Scott a follower of Xavier or Magneto's tactics? ...depends on when you ask.
Is Scott a nonviolent pacifist (as Xavier raised him to be) or a cold-blooded killer? ...he flips back and forth on that.
Is Scott actively trying to alienate everyone he knows or trying desperately to redeem himself in their eyes? ...it was one then the other then the one then the other.

There's few possible excuses for all this that don't involve madness. Remember: Scott Summers has gone mad before.

>Is Scott a follower of Xavier or Magneto's tactics?
Scott is better than both of them.

The fact you don't see CYCLOPS WAS RIGHT is why Donald Trump was elected.
Enjoy the next 4 years of being WRONG, faggot.

>sovereign nation
The entire deal with that in Marvel is all kinds of fucked up. A spaceship can land near Manhattan, claim land around it as sovereign and nobody bats an eye.

>marvel pushes inhumans
>by will, skill or luck x-fags hold the line
>marvel locked in to multi-year plots
>asspulls and retcons
>alienated inhuman-fags
>alienated x-fags
This would be funny if I didn't feel bad for the fans.

>good writing
>comics
Pick one.

MUH CULTUREEEEE

Which is funny since they're not even on their own planet

But the mutants made their own island off the coast of California. They didn't claim it or take anything from the US.

>(as of yet) no known reason,
Scott killed Xavier in a fit of passion because he was sick of upholding the lie that the man was a saint when he was a manipulative bastard who indoctrinated impressionable teens then claimed plausible deniability when they learned from his examples

Wait, this is Iceman?

Wasnt he a mutant since forever? Is he only saying this because of that mad pussy hair control that only medusa can give?

>Is he only saying this because of that mad pussy hair control that only medusa can give?
poor user.
no, your close, but I can guarantee that pussy hair has nothing to do with iceman anymore.

It's not like Xavier didn't deserve it. He died by the sword he lived by, a super powered child soldier.

>Claremont, himself, established the Phoenix was corrupted by Jean Grey and her inner darkness
got any examples? not doubting you I'd just like them for my collection

no he's trying to get up the boyhole of an inhuman named Romeo

>AND THEN died trying to start a race war.

He didn't start it, he died before the conflict even started. Confirmed Inhuman wanker who didn't read.

Osborne thew what was one of the most powerful Avengers teams ever at the time at them, and lost.

Who else is going to tell them to clear off?

>Confirmed Inhuman wanker
No user, there are anti-mutant marvel fags but every single inhuman-fag I've talked to is assblasted by the characterization marvel had forced on their niche.
>I never asked for this.


- every Inhuman fan

I was mainly joking, I'm a huge Inhuman fan & this shit is just pissing me off with how fucking stupid it all is

Hopeless

x-men don't constantly mind rape the government while inhuman do that every single time

Don't forget, going by the advise of Wwolverine

>>in attacking the inhumans they claim to want to just take out key players, move a ton of inhumans into the middle of limbo to fend for themselves causing the death and mutilation of them
I know you're baiting hard but I really wish this would happen.

technically they are. But the real take away is that the terrigen cloud is a bastardization of their culture.

Scott was trained by MLK to be the next Malcolm X. He was meant to lead the army that protected mutants from harm, while Jean did the talk shows and acted as the peaceful, nonviolent face of mutants who continued the professor's work. Then Jean died, and Scott was left taking both roles, resulting in a mix of the two that doesn't fully work, but it's the best he can do given the circumstances.

Dang. That's like double Death Flag. I'm amazed he stayed alive this long.

I still dont understand how attacking these terrigen clouds is in any way an attack against inhumans.

1) there is a sufficient population of inhumans to sustain the population, they do not need the clouds.

2) the clouds are lethal to mutants, they have no choice but to fight for their lives.

Look, I don't mind forced conflict but there needs to be some semblance of rationality behind the conflict. the inhumans have no *need* for the cloud, only a *desire* to increase their already-sufficient population. they're nazis who have decided they need the resources in poland more than the polish jews needed them, the nazis didnt need poland.

worse, they're forced conversionists. how many humans would raise their hands and volunteer to be turned into fish-men or giant dogs? inhumans = muslim expansion. and the absolute weird thing from marvel is that they're presenting their islamic waves as more in the right than their analogy for gays.

Storm is the Polar Boy of the marvel leadership.

I laughed when the young Inhumans from IvX #2 had to use Eldrac, whose horrible fate is to be a huge immobile piece of transportation equipment and has been left buried in the sand outside the city.

Polar Boy is from the LoSH, right? What did he do?