Why didn't they have any air support?

why didn't they have any air support?

Because a country far far away is actually hell

it was the Tet offensive. Not every squad got air cover to help take a little building with a couple of VC in it.

>sniped by 14 yo girl
>US Mehreen

They had lots of problems getting enough ordnance during the vietnam war, there wasnt always a phantom on standby.

because the One Ring would've corrupted the eagles if they tried to take it into Mordor

that's one of the points of the film

>strongest military force the world has ever seen
>easily killed by a slant eyed loli

what did Kubrick mean by this?

This

Air-support is zero-sum and made available by moving up the line of priority, through available resources.

Fail to see your point.

Absolute power is neutered by the hesitancy to use power absolutely.

thanks, guys

I answered this question when you posted this thread yesterday
There were three reasons
-Hue was a historical and cultural city and Saigon forbade the use of artillery and air support
-A late monsoon season meant low cloud and rain grounded aircraft
-When Saigon finally relented, and the weather lifted, the NVA/PAVN forces were far too close-in to USMC/ARVN forces for air support or artillery to fire safely

no one had a large enough killstreak faggot

Because they were afraid that they might destroy the monolith, as you know, 2001 & Full Metal Jacket takes place in the same universe: Kubrickverse.

Bird is the word

M-I-C-K-E-Y M-O-U-S-E

No boom boom from air brother
Air brother too beaucoup, too beaucoup

dogshit fake ass movie filmed in england kubrick is a hack

out of all the movies I've watched that's still my favourite quote

>not "All fucking niggers must fucking hang"

The US crushed the communists in every battle they engaged in. The Tet Offensive was one last hurrah by the Vietcong and they were effectively destroyed after it, it was all NVA conflict after that. The US continued to win after Tet, and then left in 1973 at which point the South Vietnamese Army had formed into a somewhat effective force which was actually starting to make offenses INTO North Vietnam. At this point democratic politicians reneged on the US agreement to supply North Vietnam with a 1:1 rearmament policy to supply a replacement for every bit of materiel lost. The South Vietnamese army quickly ran out of bombs, ammo, guns, armor, planes, etc and then lost.

The democratic politicians literally threw everything down the fucking toilet. They should have been shot.

can someone explain those lines about john wayne joker says
I don't get it

reference to chon wang, protagonist of shanghai noon and shanghai knights

thats why he's called joker
cuz he makes jokes that dont make any sense

The war shouldn't have been, and it was started by a Democrat to fatten his wife's stock portfolio

Ah yes the American Dolchstoßlegend
>we would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for those pesky Demmycrats!
The war was lost in 1964, everything after that was for the sake of pride

Kek @ pic
Zoz at post

DEVILISH

All they had to do was play it ain't me and a chopper would show up.
But seriously, why didn't they use smoke grenades to go pull the first guy out that got shot by the sniper?

Fog of War bro.

they were too far away

American soldiers were a joke in Vietnam

I remember reading Viet Cong commanders said it was lucky that the numbers of American and Australian soliders weren't reversed since they would have lost.

no one gets the jokes in this movie

remember that bit when him and animal mother were trying to insult each other? just fucking surreal, no clue what Kubrick was trying to achieve with it

The world loves to make light of America and it's military blunders to the point where it's overblown and memed.

Nah this was actually true. The Australian army were fresh out of New Guinea and Indonesia and were arguably the best SEA jungle fighters in the world at that point.
The Americans, particularly the conscripts, just didn't understand the dynamic of fighting in places like Vietnam

why is the 2nd part so cryptic?

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>no one gets the jokes in this movie
>remember that bit when him and animal mother were trying to insult each other? just fucking surreal, no clue what Kubrick was trying to achieve with it

It's not a mystery. Possibly Animal Mother was testing the new guys with bravado , jealous of Joker's friendship with Cowboy and even just the Alpha male of the group prodding to see where the Rafterman and Joker stood in the pecking order.

no I get that, it's the actual content of what they were saying that's weird

>Enter war on a lie
>Lose to a bunch of rice farmers
Amerilards literally are THIS pathetic.

>Animal Mother: You a photographer?

>Private Joker: I'm a combat correspondent.

>Animal Mother: Well, you seen much combat?

>Private Joker: [sarcastic] I've seen a little on TV.

>Animal Mother: You're a real comedian.

>Private Joker: Well, they call me the Joker.

>Animal Mother: Well I got a joke for you. I'm gonna tear you a new asshole.

>Private Joker: [doing John Wayne impression] Well, pilgrim, only after you eat the peanuts out of my shit!

>Animal Mother: You talk the talk. Do you walk the walk?

What's to get? Joker verbally 'out wits' Mother and in defeat Mother suggests a physical altercation.

>>Private Joker: Well, they call me the Joker.
>>Animal Mother: Well I got a joke for you. I'm gonna tear you a new asshole.
>>Private Joker: [doing John Wayne impression] Well, pilgrim, only after you eat the peanuts out of my shit!
>>Animal Mother: You talk the talk. Do you walk the walk?

you would never hear anyone talk like this in real life. the statements barely even link in with each other

I don't know what to tell you. Joker is educated and his insults are more out of left field and a comeback is more difficult.

Mother defaults to physical prowess and wants to know if Joker can back up his mouth.

What are some examples of a modern major power actually winning one of these wars in a meaningful way? The Soviets had their own Vietnam in Afghanistan.

what kind of wars are we talking about here, because there's plenty of colonial ones we could point the finger at
the Boer Wars, the Algerian War (France actually won but gave Algeria away for other reasons), England's take over of India etc etc

Afghanistan is just where empires go to die, no one can hold that place

ahhhahhhahahah are you coming from the eagles thread

I mean something like 1950 onwards, so the Algerian Wars would work

All these meme wars are the same:
1. major power troops stumble around huge difficult terrain getting their legs blown off by IED's and fucked in ambushes.
2. Wins every major confrontation but bleeds out slowly and goes home due to 1.

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Yet Dem's now look back at that and point to Nixon which is unreal. Kennedy get's credit for "saving" us in the cuban missile crisis when in reality he started the fucking thing by putting nukes in turkey and being too dumb to think that the soviets would just be cool with that.

if it's an actual war and not an extended period of occupation/nation-building, the results tend to be basically what you'd expect
e.g. the US stomping Iraq in the first gulf war or Russia invading Georgia

These were really proxy battles on the Cold War. Technology will only get you so far. Eventually putting 'boots on the ground' is required and that's straight up conventional warfare. Conventional can only get you so far, because you can't cut off the head.

Which in these wars were Communist and Capitalist superpowers and in the Middle East it's Muslim fanaticism and ideals.

I guess you can't really discount that the defending army's were fighting on their home turf and for their homelands.

2001: Full Metal Jacket

or

2001: A Full Metal Odyssey

Is there any significance with the film ending with that song, and the drill sergeant saying "Micky Mouse" just before he went into the bathroom?

are you retarded
also conscripts were like 10%

JFK was retarded in those aspects and a retard for going into Vietnam but he wanted us out before he died, it was LBJ that expanded it

LBJ is the worst president in the history of the US

The US had the ability to win Vietnam in about 2 weeks, and they more or less did that under operation Linebacker II

The USAF was not allowed to conduct strategic bombing during Vietnam and it was all tactical bombing, Linebacker II was the first attempt at actual strategic bombing and it only took 2 weeks of actual strategic bombing for North Vietnam to request a peace conference.