NEW YORK TIMES ELIMINATES GRAPHIC NOVEL BESTSELLER LIST!!!
>The New York Times will eliminate a number of their print and online bestseller lists—including ones for graphic novels and manga. The change will take place starting Feb. 5.
>We will continue to cover all of these genres of books in our news coverage (in print and online),” said a New York Times spokesperson in a statement to EW.
>Readers will be notified that individual lists will no longer be compiled and updated by The New York Times on the relevant article pages.
>As a result graphic novel and manga sales will be included in general Fiction categories.
>As a result graphic novel and manga sales will be included in general Fiction categories
But what about non-fiction graphic novels?
Josiah Martin
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Xavier Hughes
>(((New York Times)))
Gavin Lewis
Sup Sup Forums
Ryan Martinez
>Every news-site except breitbart are (((jews))) (I really used that secret nazi-folk-only meme)
Alexander Long
Oh noes, quirky comics are fucked.
Noah Myers
Good, comic suck.
Jonathan Kelly
Fuck New Yorkers. Pretentious Nepotistic Fucks.
Levi Rogers
you sound like someone who couldn't make it in the city.
Brandon Flores
>911 Alright 9/11, we get it, you hate New York.
Adrian Wood
Why do people like you do that? Validating stupidity for teh sake of being the tough guy in a thread? It's not even about you being an insecure faggot, it's about validating that whole thing to happen and continue.
Jayden Martinez
Makes sense, it's too easy to buy and read comics.
Liam Gonzalez
Caring about the Jew York Times And nothing of value was lost, too bad there isn't some World Wide Web for me to look up that information... Oh wait...
Jaxon Martin
You have a lot to learn about (((Andrew Breitbart))).
Wyatt Anderson
>The New York Times is owned by The New York Times Company. Arthur Ochs Sulzberger, Jr., the Publisher and the Chairman of the Board, is a member of the Ochs-Sulzberger family that has controlled the paper since 1896.
Son... You have no idea
Jacob Miller
Haha Yaaaaaas mine made the bestseller list this year. I may well be one of the final NYT graphic novels authors.
Connor Cooper
NYT are straight cucks dude
Leo Scott
>NY hipsters will never know what to read from now on Awwww.
Luke Morris
The graphic novel list was a joke anyway.
Justin Price
congrats, if this is truthful, if not lying is a sin and youre going to hell, BUT congrats on the hope this is true
Jaxon Ramirez
Dude, Sup Forums is right on that one. Every major news outlets is owned by Jews, now if you care or not about that fact is another discussion.
Alexander Murphy
Isn't this a good thing? Isn't this like saying, "We consider comics/manga legitimate fiction, and they deserve to be included with everything else instead of shoved into their own separate "lesser" category?"
Mason Miller
Comics/Manga will rarely sell enough to get high up on the list general list to get that exposure.
David Long
No. Now comics are competing with normal books. There are only so many spots on the list and most TPBs don't sell enough to make it. Less exposure for comics is bad for the comics industry.
Jeremiah Turner
no, it's pretty much what tradebait uses to justify their low floppy sales.
Jace Morgan
Well they are fake news, like all the other outlets. Hopefully Trump shuts them all down. He's the only source we need
Charles Morales
I'm so happy Trump and the internet are here to provide us with the Alternate Facts.
Eli Gomez
>new York Times forced to cut jobs and size down after trump speeds up the death of their medium Good
Jeremiah Hill
The fact that the NYT gave no clear reason for the change makes it more frustrating. It'd be really nice if western comics and cartoons as a medium could stop having problems everywhere, but we're a long way away from that.
Jace Sullivan
You mean the truth? Don't trust the media, they're just as bad as the protestors trying to undermine the president and prevent him from doing his job. The protestors need to fuck off, go home, and let Trump do his job. Hopefully he kills newspapers and TV News once and for all
Thomas Reed
mangas aren't much "fiction" as a genre as any other non historical story, so either they reduce the list to two, or they keep manga and novels. That shit was made to remove the visibility of foreign culture in their line up, and that's it.
Gavin White
Is that really a bad thing? We need to put our needs and our culture first
Christopher Garcia
> put our needs and our culture first
what the fuck does this even mean? hey OP, great thread, I love reading stealth Sup Forumsthreads.
Evan Hall
You went a little overboard there, bruh. You ruined the joke.
Jordan Ross
It means emphasize the media America produced and focus on advertising and discussing that instead of dumb foreign shit nobody understands
Kayden Hill
What joke? I'm being serious. Newspapers and all other news outlets are propaganda trying to undermine the government. It all needs to go
And the protestors hate America. They're traitors trying to stop Trump from doing his job. They either need to be arrested or stopped from protesting at all
Evan Brown
Last I checked the majority of discussion on Sup Forums was about American-produced comics and cartoons, so you're in the clear.
Gavin Nguyen
>We need to put our needs first
Yes, that's how literally every decent country operates.
>and our culture first
No, that's retarded.
Julian Rivera
Unless they're protesting abortion. In which case they are TRUE AMERICANS who respect the law right after we change it.
Evan James
You are such a kid, Iris, holy shit.
Alexander Brooks
good they compare Scott Snyder to Frank Miller their opinion should go in the
Brody Evans
This. I don't know what the problem is, t's like making a distinction between live action and animated films.
Bentley Watson
>American-produced comics and cartoons So, dumb American shit nobody understands?
Michael Peterson
Welcome to Trump's 'murica
David Campbell
Are you actually trying to defend the New wave of leftist puritans telling us our music is too violent, our games are too violent and everything needs to fill a quota or it's wrong?
Kayden Anderson
No, stuff produced BY us, FOR us. No, that's wrong. Protesting at all is wrong. You need to let the government do what it has to do. Whatever happens, happens >No, that's retarded. Do you want to lose our culture to foreigners?
I get why they had the list and it made sense to have it at the time. But what they seem to be pushing towards is more logical. Can't really learn about the trends shaping comics when the same 4 or 5 books tops the lists for years at a time. A more nuanced and in-depth look is welcome.
Joshua Hughes
Are you from ten years ago?
I think that user is right, you're kind of going too far with the joke.
Alexander Russell
>New York Times do normal people even read that thing? I thought this was an 1% kind of stuff and really ddin't know they had that list until now.
Matthew Scott
No, it's funny how things have come full circle eh?
Now instead of Angry republican baptists saying sex is wrong and video games are evil, it's feminists!
Julian Phillips
>I think that user is right, you're kind of going too far with the joke. >If I don't understand it it must be a joke Ok It's pretentious propaganda garbage, like all newspapers ae
David Adams
>stuff produced BY us, FOR us. So, dumb American shit nobody understands?
Cooper Reed
>our culture Only Native Americans have one.
Anthony Green
>Now instead of Angry republican baptists saying sex is wrong and video games are evil, it's feminists! They don't say that either for the most part though. I think you're hung up on some minor bullshit about Japanese imports getting censored which is pretty far from a mainstream issue.
Sure it's AN issue but it's not indicative of some widespread cultural phenomenon, it's pretty limited to "Ugh they changed the weird romance plotline with the love potion in Fire Emblem".
Ian Jenkins
No, I understand it, it's just gotten too retarded to be funny. Dial it back a bit.
Brandon Walker
No, I'm hung up on feminists backing huge anti-Violence people like Anita in the same way we heard tons of shit about Jack thompson.
My big issue is instead of insulting the puritan Anita and laughing at her stupidity as she tries to tell us the same thing we heard before, people have cowed down to her and her way of thinking.
Tyler Nelson
Comics are not a genre. I don't trust her to tell me about comics.
So really this screws over Congressman John Lewis, author of the nonfiction comic book March (formerly an NYT bestseller).
And John Lewis is on Donald Trump's personal enemies list.
Coincidence?
Cameron Cooper
>No, I'm hung up on feminists backing huge anti-Violence people like Anita in the same way we heard tons of shit about Jack thompson. rofl who gives a shit about Anita? Ever since she's said her bit at the UN without actually doing anything substantial there she's become a non-entity, I don't even see people shit on her anymore because of how irrelevant she is.
Maybe you should stop seeking out reasons to be pissed off about stupid internet people.
Michael Morales
>Comics are not a genre. I don't trust her to tell me about comics. What does that have to do with anything?
Angel Cox
Maybe these feminists should stop seeking reasons to be pissed off about shit people like?
Also, SJW ruined Eclipse Phase.
Austin James
She's calling comics a genre in her tweets.
This indicates a lack of knowledge about comics.
Noah Scott
>this screws over Congressman John Lewis, author of the nonfiction comic book March (formerly an NYT bestseller). >And John Lewis is on Donald Trump's personal enemies list. Hmmm....
Tyler Hall
Everyone has a culture, but you won't recognize it if it's default. The US's is a melting pot.
Ethan Williams
That's wrong, style of comic places it into a genre even if comics share themes with other types of media like horror or non-fiction.
Noah Hernandez
>Maybe these feminists should stop seeking reasons to be pissed off about shit people like? Well I'm not talking to a whiny feminist right now, I'm talking to a whiny user who wants to act like a feminist but from the opposite stance.
Christian King
I know it's not pertinent to the thread, but what's the deal with that small hat always hovering over his head?
Nicholas Gray
Comics are a medium, not a genre.
What are you smoking?
Logan Fisher
>The US's is a melting pot. That's my point. The USA has no culture of its own, so why talking about an US culture?
Asher Walker
this thread has gone very Sup Forums very fast
Michael Garcia
She's not calling comics a genre. She's talking about genres normally associated with comics which are usually categorized as being "lesser" than literary fiction. That's why she added format because comics and graphic novels are a fundamentally different format than what most people think of when they think of literature.
She lumped both together because of expediency.
Zachary Diaz
It does though, it has a distinct melting pot culture.
Tyler Edwards
I did back in college.
There was a full page add for Crunchyroll in it one time.
Ryder Butler
>melting pot culture Bullshit.
Nolan Perez
This
Jonathan Morris
>genres normally associated with comics Superheroes and nothing else? Everything else is normally associated with books, television, movies, etc too.
In the third tweet it's down to genre singular, and nothing about formats.
John Howard
Everyone's influenced by someone else. Italians got tomatoes from South America. Manga/anime was influenced by Walt Disney.
Hudson Myers
But there is an Italian culture and there is a Japanese culture. USA has no culture of its own.
Luke Smith
>The US's is a melting pot. the melting pot myth has been disproved in the late 90's, grampa.
Jack Clark
>an 1% kind of stuff It's pretty baffling to see people still using that cringy concept, especially on Sup Forums, where people aren't supposed to be braind dead puppets.
Parker Edwards
aw
Austin Morris
>so many US stereotypes unique to the US That's a culture.
Ian Morris
>I love reading stealth Sup Forumsthreads. There's no such thing as apolitical media, even if you see it as consumable entertainment. books, games, music, everything will have a message. If it makes you angry, it's neither our or the medium's problem, it's you being immature and dramatically uneducated.
Aaron Green
(((Jew York Times)))
Mason Gomez
go back to your corral, you might get lost
Leo Parker
So you, much like a retard, don't believe that the billionaire class is destroying this country, and you consider other people to be brain dead puppets?
Aaron Wood
ITT: Sup Forums fuckers Go back to your containment board or go kill yourselves. Both, preferably.
Benjamin Ross
>Do you want to lose our culture to foreigners? What culture?
Isaac Perez
Ironically wasn't the melting pot supposed to be a metaphor for assimilation into WASPy mainstream American culture that eventually evolved into people believing it was Pro-Multiculturalism?
Alexander Robinson
>unique to the US >tomatoes from South America
Kayden King
ha
Christopher Parker
Andrew Breitbart the sites founder founder literally was a jew the thing is he was actually not just a ethnic jew but also a religious jew as well
that is the mayor point
most religious jews are pretty based that hate Muslims and sjws
the none religious jews however are the complete opposite that push every kind of sjw crap out there
Kevin Gonzalez
all the graphic novel that I have ever bought all came out in the 80s and 90s
everything else since then has been sjw trash so I can see why they have become so insignificant that even the New York Times no longer covers them
Charles Butler
That was Italy.
Bentley Gutierrez
I'm just saying the easiest way to identify a country's culture is to think of the stereotypes unique to that country.
Ryder Hill
But one of the stereotypes is a hamburger, which is made of foreign origin materials.
Camden Allen
Fake Jews make fake news.
Henry Martin
that sums it up pretty nicely actually
Thomas Bennett
Yes, and as mentioned, tomatoes come from South America but look at all those tomato-based recipes Italians came up with.