Why does this country produce nothing but garbage in regards to Television & Film?
Off the top of my head I can think of maybe 5 or so truly great works of cinema that they've made over the years, but more recently they've made absolutely nothing worthy of anyone's time.
It's still only 7am or so in Germany OP, you should have waited a bit before posting if you want some proper bites
Adrian Gomez
The greatest female director of all time is Leni Riefenstahl, a German.
Fuck of back to /his/ you Zionist kike
Aiden Campbell
All of Germany's talent came from the jews.
Sebastian Watson
Germany is europe's workbench, the ideas however come from elsewhere. Germans as peoople are the most uncreative and unartistic bunch you will ever meet, but you cannot get better and more qualified wageslaves anywhere in the world.
Jaxon Torres
Because everyone who's actually talented, people like Herzog, is going to America rather than trying to salvage a severely underfunded and generally underdeveloped german film industry.
It's not like the rest of Europe, excluding maybe France and Britain, is going much better.
Liam Wilson
Same thing can be said about the US
Ayden Gomez
Does Britain have a big domestic Film industry anymore? I figured they had become another Canada, a place you go to to film stuff.
Also, tons of British actors pretend to be Americans in American stuff.
Jaxson Ward
Germans are only satisfied with burning down Europe
Camden Watson
Australian here.
Inspector Rex is pretty cool.
SBS used to play some German film series about fat German working class slobs going on holidays too. Like a German National Lampoons.
I liked that.
You produce...unique...gore films too. Not good...awful in fact...but sincere.
Your scat/retard porn is pretty amazing. Anyone got the webm? You know the one.
You make some good, though dour, dramas.
Tyler Edwards
You realize that's an Anti-Austrian image, right?
Juan Butler
Austrians are Germans that pretend they're not out of embarrassment
Jaxon Rivera
Germany has the largest film financing sector in the world outside of the U.S.
They paid for a massive amount of European and American productions.
France has a vital film scene because it also has a huge audience (not just in France) and a great film culture.
British film is all but dead. They have ideologically sunk themselves and have created such a incestural shithole of an industry (it's either BBC "art" films or awful horror films produced by a small cadre of circle jerkers).
Europe hasn't had any decent film industries in ages. Outside of the U.S. it's been Asian countries for the past few decades that have picked up the slack.
French New Extreme was breddy gud I guess.
It's not like Germany doesn't produce excellent films every once in awhile though. The Lives Of Others and such.
Parker Morales
was she really raped after ww2
Logan Rogers
It doesn't help that Germany has generally very bad actors. Only a select few are suited to appear in big movies. Klaus Kinski was the last great actor this country has produced.
Isaiah Bailey
nazi germany and the occupation that followed is the reason. we had one of the best movie industry until hitler took over. you can see these garbage movies and compare them to earlier works to see the downfall yourself. really a shame.
Kayden Sullivan
German Wartime Cinema wasn't that bad at all, if you don't look at propaganda.
Baron Munchausen is great
Asher Ward
Because Germany does enough good films and I'm not joking. All "films" discused on /tv are trash. Better watch a random movie from Germany than the "best movies" anons recomend: the same over and over: girl with daddy issues, cgi capeshit, pretentious acting, and whores advertisement for arab millionaires disguised as science fiction. Hollywood is fucking trash.
Alexander Clark
>Outside of the U.S. it's been Asian countries for the past few decades that have picked up the slack.
Ireland alone has much better talent than Japan, the textbook definition of a struggling industry
Dominic Watson
Japan's been weak for decades now. But the 90's were dominated by Hong Kong, and the 2000's by Korea.
Jose Ross
It has its moments. Every Gaspar Noe work, for example, copies this masterpiece.
Lucas Cooper
>1920-1933 Best cinema in the world >Jews move to America Literally nothing
Makes you think.
Liam Sanchez
>implying
manufacturing is for 2nd world countries like china and india
Eli Miller
It was bad. One good film doesn't change the overall trend. Compare it to earlier German cinema: Caligari, Nosferatu, Die Nibelungen, Dr Mabuse, The Las Laugh, Faust, Berlin: The symphony of Metropolis, Pandora's Box, The Threepenny opera, Girls in Uniform, Testament of dr Mabuse, People on Sunday, M, Metropolis, Blue Angel and many others. Nazi cinema was a joke.
Logan Morales
i thought Deutschland 83 was decent.
Jordan Martin
>Off the top of my head I can think of maybe 5 or so truly great works of cinema that they've made over the years
>Das Boot >Triumph of the Will >99 red balloons music video >"Dubi dam dam" by Bonaroo music video >That one movie where kids take selfies with Hitler >The fake propaganda film in Inglourious Basterds
That's six. OP BTFO.
Mason Flores
>germans hating themselves
nothing to see here
Cooper Gutierrez
>implying that Alarm für Cobra 11 isn't the best TV show ever Get lost, fagget.
Charles Lee
Germans just don't have the mental orientation for the medium of cinema. They don't have the proper sense of aesthetics, they're too german for that.
Jason Cooper
>France has a vital film scene because it also has a huge audience (not just in France) and a great film culture.
mmmm that's a bit wrong user. The French Republic through the Culture ministry partly finances nearly 100% of french movies via the CNC (Centre National de la Cinématographie) funds. You will have a very hard time finding any french movie of the last 4 or 5 decades without seeing a CNC financing in the credits.
The French state helps finance all french productions. It's pretty unique and sets France apart from the rest of the world. It's tax payers money that goes directly into financing the french movie industry. And by the way, the french audience isn't as big as you claim, UK and Germany have bigger audiences at the box office regularly.
Levi Evans
Traumschiff Surprise Im Labyrinth des Scheigens
Both great movies.
But yeah, for such a rich country, not much going on in terms of entertainment. Fits the german philosophy I guess.
Jason Wright
Hardy Kruger
Evan Bell
A nation of small-souled bugmen.
Tyler Campbell
The Tin Drum was pretty good, as was Unsere Mutter, Unsere Vater (sp?) and Stalingrad.
Ryder Stewart
I'll take this as an opportunity to remind everyone off the fact that even Uwe Boll made one good Movie. The Final Storm
Brody Campbell
>Off the top of my head I can think of maybe 5 or so truly great works of cinema that they've made over the years, but more recently they've made absolutely nothing worthy of anyone's time.
Toni Erdmann was the best movie on Cannes last year.
Aiden Hall
>Inspector Rex is pretty cool. that's an Austrian production
>it's an a young german girl gets married to a turk and all kinds of intercultural shenanigans and hilarious misunderstandings ensue but in the end everything works out because diversity is our strength Sat 1 Film Film episode
Blake Sanchez
hast du was gegen vielfalt?
Evan Thompson
They're to busy slurping immigrant semen rations
Lucas Walker
Yes, German people have achieved nothing in the fields of music or literature.
weiß du wo wir sind?
Jaxson Hall
They're too busy making scat porn
Andrew Howard
Ich habe was gegen undifferenzierten Diskurs.
Brandon Lee
>It's not like the rest of Europe, excluding maybe France
france tv shows is a mess exept a few exeption produced by Canal, brits are way above us for concerning TV and i'm not a big fan of our current films
Samuel Anderson
What is essential germancore then?
>Das Leben der Anderen >Stalingrad >Das Boot
Christian Howard
I agree that the films made before the nazis took over were better. But some films made by the nazis were crafted pretty well. The problem is that everything was made for the sole purpose of propaganda so you cant not look at propaganda. There is no room for creativity in a totalitarian regime. The Nazis destroyed culture and art to such a degree that germany was left with nothing of the sort, hence the adaption of the american style when they were occupating germany.
tl;dr German Cinema was amazing until the mid 30s, then the Nazis killed it and the Americans raped the corpse
Dominic Nguyen
>occupating
Alexander Scott
Does he count?
Lucas Wright
It's not wrong. France and Spain have audiences outside of France and Spain - quite large ones.
>The French state helps finance all french productions.
This is common in nearly every country that isn't the U.S.
>UK and Germany have bigger audiences at the box office regularly
France has other territories. The U.K. is interesting in that it can access the U.S. market quite easily, because of the language, but is often trounced by U.S. product (at home).
Germany has Austria and Switzerland, I suppose.
German tax payers also pay for non German films, which is kind funny.
Luke Baker
There's a difference?
Adam Reed
Germany movie industry used to be the best and most creative before the WWII and the nazi regime. The 20s were full of grounbreaking movies made in Germany. Like many scientists also artists and directors went to america and pushed the industry there forward after shit hit the fan.
After WWII people jsut wanted to forget about the dark times and the guilt and so the industry produced a lot of lighht hearted comedies or romances without any depth.
There was a time during the 70s when intellectual cinema was really a thing again though.
If you search really hard there some smaller gems produced even now. Pic related is a German mystery series with heavy comic book vibes and some surreal ideas which is actually pretty good for instance.
Alexander Scott
>Weinberg jedes verdammte mal
Sebastian Morris
>Sat 1 Film Film to this day I don't know what that even means
Robert Carter
>implying Fack Ju Goethe 3 is not kińö of the highest order
Austin Bennett
We had some good comedy movies in the 90's. Superstau and Bang Boom Bang are great. However the amount of retarded TV movie trash that we produce in germany makes it hard to take german movie making serious in any way.
Luis Price
I really liked "Mörder auf Amrum" it shows a very different Germany as it plays on a rural Island in the North Sea. It brings the Northerners' dry wit together with gruesome murder à la Fargo and in the end the Protagonist Impregnates both love interests who are completely OK with it and gets a new Car
Andrew Gomez
Or take Der Tatortreiniger as an example for qualtiy TV made in Germany. It's rare but sometimes it happens.
Angel Rodriguez
It's pretty sad, the absolute state of German cinema. If it wasn't for the world wars, especially II (although I might have helped their cinema in a way) they might still be making kino today.
The French have made good stuff, the British have made good stuff, the Poles have made surprisingly good stuff for how few of them there are, same with Czechs and Hungarians, the Italians have made some good stuff, seems like everyone else but them.
Russia might be as bad as Germany when it comes to films, seems like neither of them really have a film industry worth a damn and rarely produce classics or even commercial hits.
I'd wager the Australians are doing almost as well as either of them and there's only like two people that live in that country.
Isaiah Myers
Australia makes decent films, or did up until recently, but it's mainly just an offshoot of Britain.
Caleb Barnes
I know 99% of you will not watch a single movie of this list but here are some good german movies from the 2000s: Crazy (2000), The White Sound (2001), As Far As My Feet Will Carry Me (2001), The Experiment (2001), Solino (2002), Hotte in Paradise (2003), Good bye, Lenin! (2003), Herr Lehmann (2003), Head-On (2004), Downfall (2004), Kebab Connection (2004), Antibodies (2005), The Free Will (2006), Wholetrain (2006), Tough Enough (2006), Reclaim your Brain (2007), The Baader Meinhof Complex (2008), Chiko (2008), Without You I'm Nothing (2008), The Wave (2008), Berlin Calling (2008), When we leave (2010), Picco (2010), Rammbock: Berlin Undead (2010), Homevideo (2011), Stopped on Track (2011), Life is no Piece of Cake (2012), Shifting the Blame (2012), A Coffee in Berlin (2012), Home from Home - Chronicle of a Vision (2013), Nordstrand (2013), Generation War (2013), Finsterworld (2013) Stations of the Cross (2014), Tour de Force (2014), Victoria (2015), Herbert (2015), Terror (2016), Toni Erdmann (2016), Goodbye Berlin (2016), Point Blank (2016), Hands of a Mother (2016)
Ian Wilson
>muh weimarer republik kino >muh metropolis >we wuz pioneers >evil nazis ruined everything >muh self hate
pathetic. get fucked krauts
Jaxon Sanchez
Saved, thanks.
Asher Perry
I've seen two on this list and they were actually pretty good so I'll check out a few more of these. Thanks mate.
Easton Thomas
Literally every white woman on earth has been raped at some point.
Brody Scott
hey you, stop it
Isaiah Jones
Tausend Dank. The White Ribbon put me in touch with the struggles of my Breslau farmhand peoples, much to dig through here.
Chase Smith
Because there is nothing in it for people with talent, there is no money for making good films, its the same as with france, there is only low budget or lowest common denominator garbage
Jason Gutierrez
>of my Breslau farmhand peoples are you from poland?
Kayden Morgan
german here ama
Logan White
deine meinung ist nichts wert tbqh
Jordan Bailey
No. Purged Silesians through Berlin and on to Canada. Wroclaw was a forbidden word in our household. Tales of Hoffman was a bedtime story.
Jacob Lopez
are you german?
Carter Mitchell
i hate germans and germany
Colton Miller
Alter sei nicht so yes
Jacob Kelly
Because of inherited guilt Germans arent allowed to engage in anything potentially thoughtprovoking or challenging the status quo. And Til Schweiger needs to die.
Joseph Thomas
It's because Germans only know how to make propaganda. Weimar movies were made by jews not gemans. Jews know how to make their propaganda at least somewhat subtle, Germans don't.
Germans gassed all the kikes and made pure Nazi propaganda. Jews are all gone now and now Germans make pure leftist neoliberalism propaganda.
Xavier Campbell
me too t. german
Ayden Hill
alles ich
Christian Perry
This thread seems like it's one guy with an axe to grind. Take your samefagging elsewhere, OP.
F.W. Murnau, Fritz Lang, the whole of German Expressionism, GW Pabst, Leni Riefenstahl, Wim Wenders, etc., etc. Werner Herzog alone is worth all the movies the US puts out, much less whatever toilet country OP is from.
Easton Cox
whatever muhammad
Jordan Diaz
>leftist and neoliberal ??
Easton Scott
Seriously? This was the best comedy from the last 10 years.
Brody Bennett
Oh please don't pretend the social elements of neoliberalism aren't pure marxist horseshit.
Camden Butler
Apparently there is a German reality dating tv show that is supposed to be Kino.
Colton Ward
germans are subhuman
Hunter Davis
>Why does this country produce nothing but garbage in regards to Television & Film?
We don't do capeshit, got, walking dead, sjw garbage like Get Out or glib facsimiles such as Blade Runner 2049, so fuck off.
Nathaniel Lee
Within a german contest neoliberalism means to give the market as much control as possible
So its impossible to be both neoliberal and leftist
Joseph Perry
this
Jason Rodriguez
So that's the etymology of "kino"
Camden Perry
>not watching kino in the Kino
plebs
pls don't bully
Dominic Morales
>"LOL Hitlor is a joke guys sooo fanni xDDD" The absolute state of post WWII occupied vassal state emasculated pussyfaggot Germanistan male cucks
Christopher Morales
>germans
Aaron Davis
Respectfully, you take out the financing help in France, you end up with a similar dying movie industry like the UK is right now (a country that has no state financing help whatsoever for it's local industry). Not every country finances it's movie industry at the scale of the French. We're talking about several hundreds of productions per year here. And by the way, the CNC also finance tv "films" and tv series.
They don't finance a few selected french movies, they finance all of them, including foreign productions as well under certain circumstances like Twin Peaks S3 recently was or Gaumont's Narcos for Netflix. It's not the french audience that finances productions, it's in that that you were wrong. The french movie industry wouldn't be able to compete without this financing.
And I'm a bit wondering what other territories you speak of, because if you are talking about french colonies, man it's a small audience at the box office. And I hope you don't mean north africa countries. Several orders of magnitude inferior to the commonwealth audience for example. And I would argue the language barrier is much more significant here than territories. French is almost a dying language outside of France. Consider that Portuguese for example is spoken almost 3 times more than French is.
If you were saying that french movies have a strong following, I wouldn't debate it because it is true. And yes there is to this day a very strong cinema culture in France. But you were saying that the french audience was huge and that's not really the case if we compare with other countries at the box office. I mean there's only like 5 or so french movies that ever did more than 10 millions spectators in France. That's ridiculously low compared to the big movie markets out there. It's far from being huge at the box office. It's decent relative to the french population but it's nothing outstanding.
John Carter
>implying Absolute Giganten isn't kino of the heighest order
Owen Morris
Stop samefagging, asshole. You keep repeating the same points. You're not even good at this.
With the exception of Fritz Lang (who was a Catholic and only half Jewish by ethnicity), none of the great Weimar era directors were Jewish. Was Murnau Jewish? You're talking out of your ass, you subhuman piece of shit.
Jason Clark
>So its impossible to be both neoliberal and leftist
Not at all. Neolibs often push leftist social policies (muh diversity) but still want market capitalism.
Brody Anderson
underrated post
Mason Jenkins
im sry
Robert Rivera
Was this actually any good? I only heard of people watching it in near empty theatres.