> I have a competition in me. I want no one else to succeed. I hate most people.
>...There are times when I... I look at people and I see nothing worth liking. I want to earn enough money I can get away from everyone.
Literally did absolutely NOTHING wrong. Daniel just wanted to get the fuck way from the normies and live a life of peaceful solitude.
Other urls found in this thread:
youtu.be
en.wikipedia.org
anyforums.com
twitter.com
Legitimately the best character in film of the 21st century.
...
FUCK YOU
If you don't relate to Daniel Plainview you are a weak normie.
He was already making 5000 dollars a week in 1902, he had plenty of time to do what he claimed he wanted to do.
It's not enough. He wanted to make sure everyone else failed.
>Eli in 1902
>Eli in 1927
What did they mean by that?
Public houses
>I hate most people
Literally /ourguy/
That describes me 100% !!
Some people are genuinely like that, babyfaced forever and never taken seriously.
>28 years old
>look 15
>nobody takes me seriously
It hurts bro
Honestly, it's a bit like Nightcrawler - maybe it's not completely "normal", but I would bet nearly every man thinks like this, even if they don't voice it.
his cock didnt work or what? never wanted to fuck women. ill man
Interesting. There Will be Blood seems to be a take down of capitalism and greed but there is something so intrinsic and natural about Daniel's anger. I wouldn't doubt it.
He was impotent. That was actually in a deleted scene.
>I want no one else to succeed. I hate most people.
Nothing wrong with being introverted, but this is just bordering on psychopathy. I really love the movie and the character, but I'm glad I have nothing in common with Daniel Plainview apart from the asocial tendencies.
Psychopathy? No, just capitalism.
Same with Nightcrawler. Condemnation of the ruthless media industry and a satire of "can do!" capitalist drive.
But most men actually do think like that and wish they were that capable. It works as wish fulfillment.
explains a lot of things, also why he used a bowling skittle to beat down the priest.
skittle both works as a penis and also as something he wanted to use to stimulate his anus.
i don't know why makeup artists are so retarded
you can give him a receding hairline and he will look properly naturally older
I don't believe you user.
I don't agree. We all get what we deserve under capitalism. Feeling underpaid and leaning towards socialism is something passive people really like to do. I have done well in capitalism, and I wish for others to succeed as well, I frequently help people fund their projects if I see a mutual benefit in it. I wouldn't paint with such a broad brush.
What do you find unbelievable?
I think hate's a strong word, but I think most people secretly have animosity towards most other people. A competitiveness. Especially asocial people - I think if you're honest you'll admit you simply don't like people as a whole.
It wouldn't take much for you to hate them, that's why you avoid them.
>We all get what we deserve under capitalism
Debatable, but if you believe that then sure. The point is that even a fair system that claims to make societies "flourish" (As Plainview says to the community of Little Boston), can indoctrinate and possess innocent people (The Evangelicals), and exacerbate our worst natural traits.
HW is meant to represent someone with a more socialist attitude, and he despises his father for a reason.
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
Mencken was onto something here
>I can't keep doing this on my own with these...
>... People.
Well, sure, I feel a sense of duty and responsibility to help others, especially people in my home town, but I want little to do with them aside from our professional interactions and a social dinner here and there. It is very rare for me to find a person who I genuinely enjoy being around and who shares a similar disposition and worldview. I don't think there's anything wrong with it nor would I be any different if I grew up under a socialist state.
>Literally did absolutely NOTHING wrong
He drank someone elses milkshake though
>HW is meant to represent someone with a more socialist attitude
wut
where the fuck did you pull that analysis from? your ass?
>en.wikipedia.org
The novel that the film was based from, it is toned down but it's still there.
>The main character is James Arnold Ross Jr., nicknamed Bunny, son of an oil tycoon. Bunny's sympathetic feelings toward oilfield workers and socialists provoke arguments with his father throughout the story.
Towards the end HW is shown enjoying the act of camaraderie with the workers on the oilfields, it's actually the way he starts to learn sign language. He's also shown as a child to be resentful of buying other people's property.
Not him, but the film is based on a book by a socialist, with HW being the authors stand in.
i hated this scene and specially this line
>I have a competition in me. I want no one else to succeed. I hate most people.
it's explaining things that don't need to be explained, i already fucking get it Paul, your movie and your character, the message and his motivations are already pretty straightforWARD I DON'T NEED TO BE SPOONFED YOU PIECE OF SHIT JUST MAKE DANIEL LEWIS WINK AT THE CAMERA AND SAY "CAPITALISM LMAO AMIRITE AUDIENCE?"
other than that, it's great
> We all get what we deserve under capitalism
You have to be really retarded to use this argument nowadays, after the biggest global crisis ever where the middle classes got absolutely crushed trough no faults of them all.
How did they "deserve" it?
He wasn't a fag though you fucking degenerate
>Being angry that Daniel Plainview is plainspoken
Sometimes the obvious is what's the most effective. He also says the line while drunk, in a moment of weakness with what he thought was his half-brother. He was confiding in him a deep truth about himself that he thought his brother also shared, since they were connected by blood, at least he thought.
Classic
i never implied that you absolute dolt
>stimulate his anus
What's this shit then
yeah, but still
>the character themselves vocalizing it changes everything
we're shown hes aware of his condition and that he revels in it but not why he is how he is or if he knows why he is how he is
youre not being spoonfed, and youre wishing for a different narrative for the film
we are talking about the film not the book.
no where in the film is he implied to represent socialism or its attitudes.
daniel also worked alongside others in the beginning of the film and was shown to care about his workers when the first at little boston died, halting work for more than 24hours out of respect, and asking eli to cut back on sermons as they needed their rest to not be tired for the dangerous work they were undertaking
Not even him but Freudian psychoanalysis? Do they not teach this shit in high school anymore?
What would you do if you were so rich that you can get away from everyone? I would buy a house somewhere secluded and as long as it has a gym and a bigass tv and super high speed internet I wouldn't leave it at all. Pay a maid to clean it up and stock up the fridge with instructions not to talk to me. Fucking heaven.
Right, when Daniel owned his labour and showed solidarity with the workers is when he was viewed as a positive figure. Thank you for proving my argument.
>I frequently help people fund their projects if I see a mutual benefit in it
wew lad, thats some heavy handed slave morality enjoy having your means of competing suck away from you
>he doesn't know the pleasure of getting figered in the ass
Well, yeah, in the film it's clearly implied in his final scene and exchange with his father.
At least that's how I remember it. It's been awhile since I've seen it. I've never read the book, so I either got it from the film, or it was context from knowing about the author I guess.
No. Freud is no longer considered legitimate.
>out of respect
You misread the film, it was not out of respect it was for morale and for greater productivity. Similar to how in today's society people are forced to take holidays so they come back refreshed. Daniel is a godless and a staunch anti-moralist.
For the record, they actually don't teach Freud any more except as part of the history of psychology, since he's been debunked.
anal wow-factor and oral wow-factor do not imply homosexuality
This is literally how every republican thinks
Doesn't matter, he's still an important figure and his work has merit. It's a longstanding idea that is still studied to this day.
>36 years old
>Big concrete bunker/home
>Have gym, craft room/building rooms, access to the wilderness
>Have giant gaming room
>Get weekly shop/prepared meals
>Watch movies, shitpost, fuck around, do whatever
>Once a week go climbing and diving
>3 times a week hit up high end brothels
>No maid, because I don't want strangers in my house, so it would have to be built for easy cleaning
That's about it. No other humans though.
It's not though. He's been dismissed. We don't study him beyond his historical place and learning that he was wrong.
...
This is your brain on AnCap memes.
>We all get what we deserve under capitalism
how's mr bergoldstein's cock feeling in your ass?
A mansion in the hills with a stocked library, a 3 star michelin chef and a maid who will wipe my ass. High speed internet and a home cinema for me to watch kinos in.
T-T-Time to rewatch.
Wasn't it established that the ring gives long unnatural life?
>Freudian psychoanalysis
>DUDE EVERYONE WANTS TO FUCK THEIR PARENTS LMAO
Nobody takes him seriously anymore retard
I don't get this meme. It just makes me want to take a shit. How is that pleasure?
Why do nerds pretend they like going to the gym?
i wouldnt actually get away from everyone then, i would actually interact with people
Kill yourself you retard.
I'm not saying people take him seriously. For fuck's sake.
Why is it every braindead undergraduate psychology student comes in when you mention Freud and spouts memes like,
>uhhh ackshuuually no longer taught in my curriculum he's wrong lol
Even though they couldn't accurately describe why he's wrong without being spoonfed the information from their pozzed as fuck lecturers.Yeah I'm not saying he's right but give the guy some credit as being influential in his field and why theories like psychoanalysis were so prevalent.
>it's clearly implied in his final scene
how? when he decides to start his own company?
wow never knew socialism was so capitalist
he says he is starting it in mexico as not to be competition, because he knows he cant compete against daniel the most driven man he has ever known
I do go the gym. I'm not a nerd. Just an anti-social retard.
I go around 8/9 so I don't have to see too many people, and I go to climbing as soon as it opens for the same reason.
Only a fatso would think someone is pretending going to the gym. It's hard at first but when you see the results you go there just so you can see you pumped in the mirrors.
Doesn't he have a rant about muh greedy Daniel and stuff in that scene before Daniel kicks him out for good?
As I said before, it was toned down from the original novel. Funnily enough supporting socialism was still a taboo in 2007 as opposed to now where everyone shills it. HW is still however, a more sympathetic figure to the plights of the working class. His desire to be "social" in of itself, (starting a family, relations with the workers) sets him apart from Daniel. He rejects the isolationist attitudes that ultimately lead to his disability.
nope he says he loves daniel right before he tells him about mexico. then daniel shits all over him and tells him he is a bastard orphan
we're talking about the film not the novel.
And I am talking about the film? It's all int here pal watch again.
>two scenes of him learning sign language = sympathetic figure to the plights of the working class
man you read a lot into ten seconds of film
Communism will win
...
Capitalist degeneracy eroded the collective mind of the glorious GDR.
Friendly reminder that Daniel Plainview is NOT a sociopath!
>How did they "deserve" it?
They deserve it because they're the ones who made the people who caused the crisis rich in the first place, I believe that's what the previous poster was implying. Society gets what it deserves under capitalism, if they make the wrong people rich or make anyone exorbitantly rich they deserve to get fucked in the ass. Then again that's only under free trade capitalism not any actual, real life capitalism.
>rejecting society is the mentality of the truly enlightened
You're not even smarter than the normies. Rejection without revolution is not the philosophy of an intelligent person.
>They deserve it because they're the ones who made the people who caused the crisis rich in the first place, I believe that's what the previous poster was implying. Society gets what it deserves under capitalism, if they make the wrong people rich or make anyone exorbitantly rich they deserve to get fucked in the ass.
My God, this has to be one of the stupidest things I read in a while.
Would you kind anons mind recommending books or any material that btfo Freud? They taught him in my highschool and never really introduced me to counter arguments and stuff disproving his degenerate mind crippling theories.
Doesn't sound psychopathic at all. Most people are dumb assholes. I mean, just look at this place.
Try to work in retail for 6 months. You'll hate everyone.
this
Literally me, not even memeing
>Rejection without revolution is not the philosophy of an intelligent person.
lol if you say so
I wish this wasn't me but it is.
dude was a malignant narcissist
yeah it sure made him happy in the end OP
>it doesn't count unless you reform society to revolve around you character
Nah. You're just mad he doesn't work for you.