Inequality for All (2013)

Are there any other good movies about corporations not paying their fair share of taxes?

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Kill yourself.

A progressive tax is objectively not "fair"

t. Mr. Shekelstein

ITT:Watch as all the kikes explain why they shouldn't contribute to their country

what are some movies about college aged americans defending corporations and the mega rich for free (as in zero monetary compensataion)?

no, but it is just. who thinks fairness is an ideal?

The inequality argument is fucking retarded.

You aren't poor because other people are rich.

If you took the 1%'s money and spread it equally amoung the working class, the working class wouldn't be any richer, it would just cause inflation.

why?
The working class already consumes 99% of all consumer goods.

There's no reason to tax the rich, the rich invest in economic production that increases living standards.
This has been seen in many places around the world.

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You know this quote can be used by either the left or the right? Right?

What are some movies about leftists preaching socialism in the name of "equality" and "fairness" only to have hundreds of millions of people die while leaving those who were fortunate enough to survive in a perpetual of misery?

Oh wait, it's reality.

>support higher taxes on the rich
>call others kikes
fuck off lefttard

I'm not defending corporations.
I'm defending taxes on economic production.
Why do you want to be poor?
Why are you such a bootlicker?

Kill all socialists desu

The only reason this "inequality" is so bad now is because we got off the gold standard in 1970 and the federal reserve creates trillions of dollars and gives it to bankers and corporations.

>Why are you such a bootlicker?
He says, while advocating for an authoritarian leftist government with a firm grip on all aspects of private life and economy.

>the government spends money better than businesspeople do
>20 trillion dollars in debt

trickle-down economics has been widely debunked. go back to 1980.

oy vey

>Just
Tell me what do you think justice means?

>trickle-down economics
isn't even a real thing
lol holy shit
TDE is just a leftist strawman argument, it's not an actual school of economics or anything

lowering taxes on economic production and cutting spending however has been empirically proven to increase economic production
look at ireland in the 90s
Sweden in the 70s
Switzerland, new zealand, hong kong, singapore.

You're a fucking retard, go back to watching John Oliver, redditor.

>best years of the country were when the 1% income tax was lowest

>trickle-down economics
do you get all of your views on economics from leftist buzzwords and shows like bill maher?

The corporate tax should be abolished. It only contributes to a little more than 10% of tax revenue, anyway. Corporations pay less largely because of net operating loss deductions, which they can carry forward for up to 20 years.

>don't talk logic it's not fair

And yet all you have done ITT is post 9gag tier pictures.

Austrian economics is simplistic and absurd. When it was practiced in the post communist nations of eastern europe it led to a crash in GDP and living standards (yes, literally worse than gommunism).

This, abolishing the corporate tax would increase wages and living standards for workers.

replace "gold standard" with "tax reform act of 1969" and the argument makes as much sense. try again.

You've been eternally btfo dude, accept it and leave this thread. Fuck it, leave this webiste.

that was my first post my fine Joe Rogan watching intellectual freind.

>And yet all you have done ITT is post 9gag tier pictures.
No, I've posted images I found on Sup Forums AND I've debunked your shitty strawman arguments.
Care to actually refute anything I said?
Didn't think so. Brainwashed bootlicker.

>Austrian economics is simplistic and absurd.
It's simplistic because it's accurate.
Occam's Razor

>When it was practiced in the post communist nations of eastern europe it led to a crash in GDP and living standards
AHAHAHAHAHA
When the fuck was austrian economics practiced there?
They were and currently are some of the least economically free countries in the world.
They have central banks.
The ones that are doing the best are the ones that moved closest to free markets.
See Estonia.

And yet you've already been btfo, that speaks for itself. Now leave.

Why is leftist conflict theory so comfy? Like seriously, I'd like to sit with a bunch of numales around a fireplace and listen to their psychobabble while drinking craft beer

>replace "gold standard" with "tax reform act of 1969" and the argument makes as much sense. try again.
No it doesn't because lowering taxes on the rich leads to more economic production and higher living standards for the working class.
Since the USA went off the gold standard, wages have stagnated and real economic production has declined.
The 1% has gotten far far more money from central banking creating it and giving it to them than they have ever gotten through tax cuts.
Deal with it.

the left:
>the evil white men at the top of the 1% control everything!, therefore we must genocide all whites!
the right:
>the evil jews at the top of the 1% control everything!, therefore we must genocide all jews!

generally, what is deserved. in the context of taxation? i think a good argument could be made for progressive taxes in that nobody in america earns millions without the supporting framework of the goverment and market, and so they don't deserve to hoard tens of millions (or more) for themselves. "justice" is probably an ill fit for the discussion, but it's much better than "fairness"

>roaring 20s
>Best decade for americans
>least amount of progressive taxation ever experienced since the implementation of income tax
>owning things like automobile, air conditioner(and other luxury items back then) became a norm
>bad

what happened right after the roaring 20s?

Okay, so youre a newfag. Still, leave.

right after the roaring 20s came the great depression you buffoon

none of those countries have economies even remotely similar in size to the US. none of them have tax rates as favorable to the wealthy, either. talk about logical fallacy.

more good stuff I assume

When the eastern bloc collapsed they had a bunch of austian economic advisors come in. As a result GDP and living standards crashed and took a decade to recover. This is well known to anyone over the age of 20.

>It's simplistic because it's accurate.
Marxist theory is also pretty simplistic. Its equally wrong. Von Mises literally didnt belive in evidence incidentally. Its a theology with no real evidence to back it. Any deviation can be taken as evidence it wasnt applied enough.

All these kikes

federal reserve created stock market crash
The USA basically turned into a socialist dictatorship with a destroyed economy for 10+ years.
Brainwashed americans blame "the free market" for this period and call it the "great depression".

>When it was practiced in the post communist nations of eastern europe it led to a crash in GDP and living standards (yes, literally worse than gommunism).
Just Google economical freedom index and tell us where those countries are as compared to South Korea and Hong kong

>none of those countries have economies even remotely similar in size to the US
Why does the size matter whatsoever?

>none of them have tax rates as favorable to the wealthy
LEL
Most of these countries have much lower taxes than USA does, especially hong kong
You're a dumb fuck.

i like how anarcho capitalism is just a fucking picture without any stats

Shitshow of Hoover and FDR. Both of them had a messiah complex

>When the eastern bloc collapsed they had a bunch of austian economic advisors come in.
No, no they didn't.
You're just a fucking liar because you can't face the facts that your ideology is wrong.
They were always extremely economically UNFREE and had central banks throughout this entire period.
This is the complete opposite of the austrian ideal.

Again, why do you leftists lie so much?

>Von Mises literally didnt belive in evidence incidentally.
Yes he did. He believed logic overpowered science, which is still true. Mathematics isn't science, it is wrong now?

>Its a theology with no real evidence to back it.
Bullshit lol, we can point to many times where it was successful.
Look at the free banking period in Sweden, the free banking period in USA 1870s to 1890s.
Christ you're a retard.

>they're jewish so they're wrong
why do jews use keynesianism to this very day and dominate the goyim with it?

If US followed use federalist origin size wouldn't been an issue

Banks created trillions of dollars of credit under the gold standard you dumbshit.

A gold standard isn't a restriction of credit in a country, it's a restriction of credit between countries.

It's a tool for establishing trade equilibrium between countries.

>worked for
>be born in a family that hasn't seen poverty in 3+ generations
>grampa start the business from nothing so that means grandkids did too
>get a share of daddy's business and an executive position right after graduating from a 4-year college
>""""""hard work""""""" involves thinking about how to expand the business by making a few phone calls and setting up meetings

>Banks created trillions of dollars of credit under the gold standard you dumbshit.
The USA was only on a semi-gold standard you retard.
From 1913 to 1970 they were were on this system.

>Yes he did. He believed logic overpowered science, which is still true
This was also the belief of Karl Marx.

>You're just a fucking liar because you can't face the facts that your ideology is wrong.
I have no ideology. I just know that your one is retarded and just caused a decade long recession while your type continue to blubber that "it wasnt real austrianism!!!!!!".

So you're just jealous then? kek

Who cares?
It's not like them giving all of this money to workers will increase living standards for workers.
see:

and how come roaring 20s was responsible? And why did a recession became depression? US had many recessions before and after the great recession, but none of them turned into great depression. Have You ever wondered why? dipshit

>You aren't poor because other people are rich.
But that is literally how macro-economics works you stupid faggot.

>he doesn't realize that America is a mixed economy superpower
US is literally the largest welfare state in the world.

>This was also the belief of Karl Marx.
So?
The point is that Marx's logic was horrifically wrong.

Logic still overpowered science. Deal with it.

>I have no ideology.
Yes you do.
At the bare minimum your ideology is anti-austrian economics.
I bet you're some neo-keynesian.

>I just know that your one is retarded and just caused a decade long recession
Where?
Point me to this.
This is hilarious, you keep spewing this garbage with ZERO evidence.
How are extremely economically unfree countries with powerful central banks somehow magically "austrian"?

You're falling apart lol.

>"it wasnt real austrianism!!!!!!".
It wasn't even fake austrianism LOL
You're the only one that pretends it even resembles austrian economics.

>it's a Sup Forums bait episode

Go to bed, libertarian.

>he actually believes it's a zero sum game
lel

>semi-gold standard
cool meme bro

>real gold standard only had 67% credit money
kek

>Point me to this.
You are unaware of the events of the last decade? There was a fairly big bank crash circa 2007 - 2009 when it turned out your entire school of economics was full of shit.


>How are extremely economically unfree countries with powerful central banks somehow magically "austrian"?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_of_Economic_Freedom

Almost every one of these states has a powerful central bank. What are you talking about?

>no argument
Why do you want to be poor? lol

>government induced economic crisis somehow proves that austiran school is full of shit

The fed impeded recovery and worsened the depression because monetary theory wasn't sound at the time (they contracted the money supply when they should have expanded it), but they did not cause the crash or the banking crisis that immediately followed.

>cool meme bro
It's true though.
Google the bretton woods system you dumb fuck lol

>You are unaware of the events of the last decade? There was a fairly big bank crash circa 2007 - 2009 when it turned out your entire school of economics was full of shit.

LOL So austrian's support central banks and extremely low interest rates now?

The entire collapse was the result of the federal reserve creating trillions of dollars and giving it to bankers and corporations through low interest rates.
This system collapsed just like the austrians said it would.

Are you acutally saying austrians were in charge of the American economy?
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_of_Economic_Freedom
Exactly.
Look through there, these post-commie eastern euro countries were always economically unfree and had central banks.
Why are you always wrong?

the government induced the crisis by reducing their oversight and control of the banking system yes. In accordance with austrian/monetarist theory.

>that climb from 1992 to 2000

Can someone remind liberals who was president during that time?

austrian economics doesn't use stats, because according to them facts have a "liberal bias".

No, the government induced the crisis by forcing banks to loan out money to people they, in a free market, would opt not to loan any money to. As for the oversight and control, the government had control, they literally forced banks to hand out these loans and then they forced said banks to use the big three rating agencies to rate these loans.

Not even close to austrian theory you fucking melt.

Cry more you little incompetent cocksucker. The moment commieswines are anywhere near power, am dropping the work and go back to stealing and operating on black market, just like I did during socialism.
Wealth is created you raging faggot, not found and stolen.

>(they contracted the money supply when they should have expanded it)
This theory is bullshit.
They shouldn't have expanded it, they should have abolished themselves and the government should have cut taxes and spending.
This is how recessions were typically solved in USA and it WORKED, see 1920.

The reason the depression happened was because the government intervened and spent an insane amount of money and heavily intervened in the economy with taxes, tariffs and other interventions.

>use central banking to create trillions of dollars and give it to bankers and corporations
>economy collapses

>AUSTRIAN'S FAULT

AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>austrian economics doesn't use stats
Yes, yes we do.
You're getting constantly BTFO in this thread btw.
Why do you keep replying?

Banks wouldn't be irresponsible if government didn't assure them bailouts for bad loans(to the people who will never be able to pay it back)

look at this leftist faggot getting BTFO in every which way

>No, the government induced the crisis by forcing banks to loan out money to people they, in a free market, would opt not to loan any money to.
do you actually belive this? I understand that the myth that the crisis was caused by governments forcing banks to loan to niggers in a common mythology as it avoids you actually having to reconsider any past assumptions, but it really doesnt pass muster. Sub Prime lending was not the reason it occurred.

>austerity works guise I BROMISE

butthurt over someone else's paper points.
go read a bible.

>do you actually belive this?
Not him, but of fucking course.
What do you think happens when you give banks trillions of dollars they didn't have before?
In a free market they would be constrained by actual market forces, but thanks to central banking and all of this (basically)free money they can just spend it all and distort the economy

>austerity
>small cuts in the rate of increase of spending
lol how in the holy fuck is this austerity?
It's increasing spending.
Also austrians call for drastic cuts in spending, and drastic cuts in taxes as well.

>What do you think happens when you give banks trillions of dollars they didn't have before?
Quantative Easing happened after the crash. Not before.

Or do you think that cash printing is the creation of the fed?

ALSO
GDP is an extremely inaccurate way of measuring economic growth.
GDP measures how much money is spent, if you cut spending, of course the GDP is going to go down.
Retard.

>Quantative Easing happened after the crash. Not before.
It's not Quantative easing.
It's the super low interest rates greenspan did before the crash.

>graph ends in 2011 before the austerity programs started
kek

Hard work pays off. You actually want to work FOREVER? Retard. No wonder you'll always be a poor, mediocre, low-test socialist.

>greenspan
you realize he's one of yours right? He's an Objectivist. Its why he opposed regulation.

Austerity started in late 2008 idiot. lol

>you realize he's one of yours right?
No he's not you fucking retard.
Lol how are you people this stupid?
How could the leader of the central bank be austrian?
Austrians want to abolish ALL central banks.

Also his policies while at the fed were keynesian as fuck.
He lowered interest rates for years.

>He's an Objectivist.
He used to be. Yes.
Who gives a shit if he was some Ayn Rand cultist?
You really have nothing left.
kys

>According to a 1989 analysis by Milton Friedman and Anna Schwartz, the recession of 1920–21 was the result of an unnecessary contractionary monetary policy by the Federal Reserve Bank.[13] Paul Krugman agrees that high interest rates due to the Fed's effort to fight inflation caused the problem. This did not cause a deficiency in aggregate demand but in aggregate supply. Once the Fed relaxed its monetary policy, the economy rapidly recovered.[14]
>In response to post–World War I inflation the Federal Reserve Bank of New York began raising interest rates sharply. In December 1919 the rate was raised from 4.75% to 5%. A month later it was raised to 6% and in June 1920 it was raised to 7% (the highest interest rates of any period except the 1970s and early 1980s).

poor Exxon just trying to make a living

The crash was caused mostly by the piss-poor infrastructure left by commies and the loss ability to compete with western products by domestic companies.
Essentially what happened was that the domestic products were so shit that nobody bought them. The situation has been getting much better since early 2000s.

Literally nothing to do with free market capitalism being """unfair"""

>source
I live in a post-communist country

>increase minimum wage by 10%
>cost of living increases by 7.5% (for example)
>bottom dregs of society are slightly better off
>everyone not on minimum wage is more worse off than the bottom are better off

why do people still fight to increase the minimum wage?

the only thing increasing the minimum wage helps with is if poor people go on holiday to somewhere with cheaper goods.

also this
spending is MORE now.

Austerity does work if it focuses on restructuring and overhauling the system rather than just raising taxes and cutting spending

>Milton Friedman and Anna Schwartz
Yes yes yes faggot.
Milton was wrong about this though.
Austrians have debunked this bullshit time and time again.
Read my original post.

Minimum wage also fucks over small businesses and favors large businesses.

>Literally nothing to do with free market capitalism being """unfair"""
I wasnt talking about free market capitalism, which I appove of. I was talking about the post-reagan cult of deregulation and financialization.

>ITT: butthurt utopianists from all sides of the political spectrum discuss their fairytales, while the remaining anons joyously chew their beef jerky and crunchy popcorn