Could Aragorn have taken the Balrog? How about Galadriel?

Could Aragorn have taken the Balrog? How about Galadriel?

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Aragorn couldn't even take that troll with armor at the final battle. Or the wild troll before the Balrog.

Galadriel is pretty much the only power left in Middle Earth that could potentially stand toe to toe with Sauron so yes, she can

No

Fuck off, SJW.

>muh stronk empowered women

>Second generation elf
>Literally older than the sun
>Went with Feanor across the helcaraxe
>Wields a ring of power

No u

>Implying glorfindel wouldn't have had a shot at it.
Glorfindel + ring = GG

>Aragorn
No, he's just a man. A mighty man, but a mortal nonetheless.

>Galadriel
A big maybe. She's ancient, powerful, and wields a ring of power. If anything she might at least harm the balrog.

The only living non Maia that can challenge a balrog is Glorfindel, and that balrog's fucked against Glorfindel.

>Could Aragorn have taken the Balrog?
No.
>How about Galadriel?
Probably not.

Actually in a letter Tolkien said that Galadriel's imaginings of being able to overthrow sauron if she took the ring were just the ring giving her delusions of grandeur in an attempt to get her to take it. He said that only another maiar like Gandalf could overthrow and banish sauron with the ring.

Balrogs were guardians of Morgoth in the first age.
They are corrupted Maiar, the same 'kind' that Gandalf and Radagast are, if not more powerful than them.

Aragorn is just a man, or rather a Numenorean. So he would pretty much be destroyed by the balrog.

Galadriel could never match Sauron in his full form.

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>and that balrog's fucked against Glorfindel.

Maybe. Glorifindel would also die just like he did before.

So her ring would only corrupt her if Sauron got his hands on his ring? Does having the One Ring do nothing except give him control over the other rings? What if she just took it off before that?

Everybody dies fighting a Balrog.

In the third age Glorfindel got some serious upgrade. One reason he's not in the Fellowship was because theirs is a stealth mission and Glorfindel is too mighty to be discreet.

>Aragorn
Nope
>Galadriel
Maybe

The elves' rings were not tainted by Sauron.

Sure, but it still doesn't change the fact that anyone who has ever fought and defeated a balrog died themselves, including a fellow angelic being.

Why was Sauron at full power such a big deal when you could still cut off his finger with a sword? Just snipe him with an arrow.

Aragorn absolutely not. Galadriel with the ring is a maybe, along with Elrond. Gandalf or Saruman with the ring would be much more likely.

From Tolkien's letters:

>Of the others only Gandalf might be expected to master him – being an emissary of the Powers and a creature of the same order, an immortal spirit taking a visible physical form. In the 'Mirror of Galadriel', 1381, it appears that Galadriel conceived of herself as capable of wielding the Ring and supplanting the Dark Lord. If so, so also were the other guardians of the Three, especially Elrond. But this is another matter. It was part of the essential deceit of the Ring to fill minds with imaginations of supreme power. But this the Great had well considered and had rejected, as is seen in Elrond's words at the Council. Galadriel's rejection of the temptation was founded upon previous thought and resolve. In any case Elrond or Galadriel would have proceeded in the policy now adopted by Sauron: they would have built up an empire with great and absolutely subservient generals and armies and engines of war, until they could challenge Sauron and destroy him by force. Confrontation of Sauron alone, unaided, self to self was not contemplated. One can imagine the scene in which Gandalf, say, was placed in such a position. It would be a delicate balance. On one side the true allegiance of the Ring to Sauron; on the other superior strength because Sauron was not actually in possession, and perhaps also because he was weakened by long corruption and expenditure of will in dominating inferiors. If Gandalf proved the victor, the result would have been for Sauron the same as the destruction of the Ring; for him it would have been destroyed, taken from him for ever. But the Ring and all its works would have endured. It would have been the master in the end.

As Maiar go Sauron wasn't much of a fighter. He lost to a dog, remember.

>Maybe. Glorifindel would also die just like he did before.
but what if he got a haircut?

here all these years i thought balrog was slang for taking a dump. i always say that i'm gonna go drop a balrog to my friends.

They were, they were however smart enough not to use them until the one ring was lost and not in saurons control anymore.

Dumps are what the Balrog ate, after all.

balrogs ate poop?

But Glorfindel doesn't have a ring. Galadriel does

Galadriel is more powerful than Gandalf, though. And Gandalf took down the Balrog at the expense of his own life

>Galadriel could never match Sauron in his full form
I said POTENTIALLY stand toe to toe with Sauron. She obliterated Dol Guldur. So yes, a weakened disembodied Sauron can be turned away by Galadriel. Full might Sauron is another matter entirely

>Galadriel is more powerful than Gandalf, though.

Don't believe the movie lies. See

Because that's not what happened in the book. The last alliance had Barad-dur under siege for like 17 years or something. He had all but lost the fight when he made one last desperate attempt at breaking the siege by showing up in person to wreck shit. But Elendil and Gil-galad together managed to mortally injure him, although they were killed in the process. Although Maiar are technically deathless the bodies they create for themselves can be destroyed, which forever weakens them (Sauron had been killed twice before this I think).

Isildur was a loot ninja who took the ring off of Sauron's corpse as a were-gild because he was a greedy shit who still followed primitive Anglo-Saxon blood laws.

>But Glorfindel doesn't have a ring. Galadriel does

Was more thinking they'd give him the ring, if he went with the fellowship he'd probably carry it.

He'd probably stand a better chance without the ring thand galadriel with her ring imo.

Yeah, obviously. Even Feanor couldn't fight balrogs. I think only glorfindel and Ecthelion are the only mortals to ever get kills on them, and they are nowhere near sauron

Balrog's tax seemed overtaxed

>Galadriel is more powerful than Gandalf, though.

hahaha, no

Even if he wasn't literally a divine being Gandalf was also a ringbearer.

Maiar with a ring >>> Slut elf

To be fair Feanor didn't manage to get a kill in because he was fighting several Balrogs at the same time. Glorfindel and Ecthelion also died killing their Balrogs. No one ever survived a duel with a Balrog.

Galadriel with the One Ring probably could have taken Gandalf though.

Remember the wizards have had their power levels capped.

I mean, he might've? That scene in the sil is pretty short. Just got shreked by an army of balrogs while he was off thinking. Maybe he did get a few? Or his army when they got the balrog to fuck off

Would the Ring have let her use it? The Ring doesn't seem like one to cuck Sauron.

>Remember the wizards have had their power levels capped.
and their memories
As a Maiar Gandalf felt like a retard

>Feanor killed NINE Balrogs before being killed by the King Balrog himself

based feanor

Nope. Same thing with Feanor and morgoth. Maiar are truly immortal. They'll never win.
Not even fingolfin when he went to duel Morgoth

No, the ring would require the wielder to be at least as powerful as sauron to switch allegiance. Galadriel is a powerful elf for sure but is nowhere near gandalf's powerlevel, let alone sauron.

>Galadriel with the One Ring probably could have taken Gandalf though
t. moviefag

Uhh no sweetie.

lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Fëanor#Final_Battle_and_Death

>But Fëanor was undaunted, and though he was dealt many wounds, he long fought on alone. At last however, he was stricken to the ground by Gothmog, the Lord of the Balrogs.

Gas yourself Teleri scum, he killed at least a few

He didn't kill any. Don't insert your headcanon into the sentence.

see
you fucking faggot

If Galadriel with the ring could have taken Sauron then a lesser Maia than he would have definitely been a possibility.

>The Ring doesn't seem like one to cuck Sauron.

It won't unless it's wield by another Maia, according to the letter I posted.

>Maiar are truly immortal.

They're deathless yes but their physical forms can be destroyed and they can be made too weak to create new ones.

you are right, and it is how it should be in terms of power levels too. It's cohesive. 3rd age characters are no match for such cunning foes from the first age who were all originally blessed by the light of the valinor trees long before Morgoth turned.

So sauron is still alive after the 3rd movie?

technically, he's just a disembodied spirit with no power. an impotent ghost basically.

>Isildur was a loot ninja who took the ring off of Sauron's corpse as a were-gild because he was a greedy shit

The One Ring also influenced Isildur, like it does with all ring bearers. Isildur is tragic because his natural greed was enhanced by the ring as well. The ring is treacherous. It brings the worst of anyone carrying it.

:(

Was it stated if Gandalf and the other wizards were nerfed before going to middle-earth or if they were just advised to not use their full power? If it's the former, the Balrog is indeed more powerful than Gandalf.

>Not even fingolfin when he went to duel Morgoth

We'll never know. But this mad enraged super sayan mode Glorfindel who rode alone to duel Morgoth would certainly be a worthy adversary for any Balrog imo.
Isn't this duel the most powerful exhibition of absolute elvish fury in all the books? to me it is.

>Glorfindel who rode alone to duel Morgoth

You're thinking of Fingolfin dummy

fuck silly me
yeah I was, it's in the quote

Here's a brap for your time.

what about a tank vs a balrog

>Galadriel is more powerful than Gandalf
Why are you pulling stuff out of your ass? Gandalf is practically an angel in the LotR universe.

what about a submarine vs a balrog?

nucular or normal submarine?

Nucular

Galadriel is an elf of the First Age when elves could stand toe to toe with Valar. She definitely has a chance

ive never understood the point of deathless character. so boring

>when elves could stand toe to toe with Valar.

And promptly die. Only in their hubris did elves ever think they could challenge a valar and they were quickly disabused of that.

>be Balrog
>survive off dwarf shit
>every day dwarf shit comes tumbling down, listen for it and open mouth to receive only source of food
>One day dwarf shit stops
>goblin shit comes down instead
>Whatever it'll do, like going to Burger King because Mcdonalds is closed for some reason
>One day scent of dwarf permeates the caverns once again
>Fuckyeah.jpg
>Hear the thick, mineral filled dwarf shit coming down!!
>open mouth
>fucking skeleton with a bucket attached to it by a chain smacks you in the fucking face.
>REEEEEEEEEEEE im coming up there

>promptly
Fingolfin fought Morgoth and not only wasn't killed immediately but actually managed to tank blows and injure Morgoth.

>but actually managed to tank blows

He dodged around like a moron until Morgoth finally stomped him. He did injure Morgoth's foot though, so there's that.

One of the greatest, yes. But also Glorfindel.

I must be remebering it wrong, but i was sure that Fëanor went out guns blazing and killed a legion of Balrogs before finally dying from his wounds, and then proceeded to literally burst into flames because he was THAT enraged.

>but i was sure that Fëanor went out guns blazing and killed a legion of Balrogs before finally dying from his wounds,

See

>But after a time, Fingolfin grew weary, and Morgoth beat him to the ground three times. Fingolfin rose up and continued to fight each time
lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Fingolfin

Did you read the fucking book? Morgoth spent all his power into making his Orc army, dragons and Angband, and corrupting the land in general, he was channeling his power through the land and slowly consuming everything.

It became to a point where he used his power so much he lost his ability to shapeshift, thus being left forever in a black knight armor. Fingolfin could only fight him because he was almost down to maiar level, which is why in the end he entrusts Sauron to continue his work.

Also like said, the "fight" pretty much consisted of Fingolfin dodgin around like a 2fast motherfucker until Morgoth stepped on him, but he managed to strike a hit on his ankle and leave him limp for the rest of his life.

Women are weaker than men. Get over it.

Also at that point the Valar had already kicked his ass once. He must have been weakened from that too.

Aragorn could barely taken on a troll. He'd get shit on hard.

Not sure how good of a fighter/mage Galadriel is but she is a 3rd generation elf, so going by powerscaling alone she should be able to shit on an average balrog fairly easily.

>fighter/mage
>powerscaling
Get thee back to /tg/, grognard.

at least post the full story otherwise he won't get it

choke on your dads dick molested cuck.

We know for a fact that Ecthelion, a might elf stalemated the strongest Balrog in a 1v1 duel.

Some say toe?

>Some
Someone*

Could she stomp the balrog to death?

well that's what gods and demi gods do in myths usually. Immortals the whole lot of them. Even fucking jesus got resurrected. They are always overpowered, cheating, and bending the rules.

She could stomp my dick to death if you know what I mean.