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>13 hours
>not explained

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>he wants eldritch abominations to be "explained"

Leaving it unexplained is probably better than anything they could come up with anyway

>expecting something good from a Netflix production

That's coming in season 3

As long as it looks cool as fuck and we get to see more of it I'm happy

*ear shattering fart noise*
What if Demogorgon wasn't just a D&D monster?

We still haven't gotten an explanation for the upside down.

>doesn't get the meaning of kafkaesque

The Upside Down was a nuclear testing ground used by either the Nazis or Commies. The Yanks weren't the first to discover it, but they may have been deliberately led to it. The Mindflayer, Demogorgon and Demodogs were all purposely created as spy or war machines, but they became uncontrollable and the portal was closed.

What's there to explain?
It's a monster that lives in another dimension, end of story.

It's a monster.

It's either hell, or a possible future if the cold war goes hot which Eleven and pals will have to avert. That's why there's ash, ruined cars, dark sky, red electromagnetic storms, mutants, etc.

Did you miss the mind flayer explanation?

>It's either hell, or a possible future
THEY FUCKING TELL YOU ITS A DIFFERENT DIMENSION

>mixing up kafkaesque with lovecraftian

new level of memeing

They don't explain it because that's creepier. Not everything has to be explained all the time. Maybe they'll do it in later seasons, maybe they won't, but in my opinion I don't think they should explain it.

>not explained
That's one of the better things about the series. However, if you really want an explanation...

Yes, that mirrors earth. And given that the scientists have no idea what they're doing, it could just be a post nuclear timeline, or it could be hell (which would fit "another dimension").

Literally, nothing about this show is Kafkaesque. Also, Kafkaesque has absolutely nothing to do with monsters.

how do you explain the unexplainable?

He obviously meant lovecraftian but it's been memed to hell and back with IT so he probably thinks it's something else.

> The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of the infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far.

> Some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new Dark Age.

Woa whoever said or wrote that knew about Trump

nuclear timeline is a pretty stupid idea, since the two dimensions are linked together. And Hell implies that the dead of our world would transcend there which again is wrong. So i wouldn't use the word hell for this dimension.

I like the future idea. It also plays well with the science teacher's analogy with the folded plate. It isn't two dimensions sharing the same space, it's two points in a single timeline. Eleven somehow bridged the present and a future where the Commies have destroyed the United States. The fallout isn't radiation because they didn't use conventional weapons, they used biological ones which wiped out every living organism. The aftermath is a bunch of freakazoid monsters that spawned out of the ashes.

Me need explain to like

back to trek general

>that's very lovecraftian of you

That actually makes sense. Hell the dungeons and dragons monsters that keep invading could be the future Soviets answer to the program grabbing up supers like 11 and Supershitter.

Is there anything to imply that the alternate dimension is the future?
The fact that Will in season 1 and the shadow monster can influence the real world from the upside-down argues against it.

The upside down is just a silent hill dimension next to ours.

You both are retarded.

This reads like it was written by an obsessive or someone with GAD. In reality, space is mostly empty and we've come to know a fair bit about our world and others besides it. No minds blown as of yet.

I think he was just outlining an idea for how a show could explain the unexplainable.

The Mindflayer could've been the biological weapon they dropped. Will even says it just wants to kill everyone. I'm not sure what the explanation would be for why it had no presence in the first season though.

It was written by Lovecraft. It's from Call of Cthulhu.

>space is mostly empty and we've come to know a fair bit about our world and others besides it

most ignorant statement ever

neurologists still dont even understand the human mind let alone the implications of the cosmos.

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Please explain
Me retard

It's a monster. All monsters from the other dimension hate Will and ruin his life whenever possible. They probably want to bone Winona which is why they let Will talk to her through light bulbs, crayon maps, and Morse code.

Woah Lovecraftian quote bro

This is something known as an "antagonist"

>space is mostly empty
That's not ignorant. That's a statement of fact. look it up.
>neurologists still dont even understand the human mind
I didn't reference the mind, but we still know a great deal more about the workings of the brain than we did at the time of Lovecraft's statement and - again - we haven't gone mad from that knowledge yet. Lovecraft's fears were born from an obsessive puritanical mindset. It's what made him a great horror writer, but also a deeply flawed individual. he also had no background in science. The man was, ultimately, an extreme pessimist thanks to the abuse he suffered from his primary carer (mother). Don't seek to look at the world, or the acquisition of knowledge, the way he did.

eggzactly

The problem is that both worlds can influence each other. When Joyce built the Christmas light messaging system in our world, it was suddenly built in the upside down. In addition, portals to the upside down created damage in our world and in the upside down. The upside down is a parallel dimension, not an alternate timeline.

Who controls Mindflyer?

Actually you got me there. I'm still unclear how Will was able to control lights from another dimension, but yeah that does kinda blow up my theory.

Was mind flyer connected to the monster in season 1?

fpbp

They don't need to explain anything related to the upside-down. What they need is more variety. All we've seen so far is Nyarlathotep and his army of flowerheads. Gotta introduce something new to the mix.

I'd like some input from d&d player. is there a creature more powerful than mind flyer?

There's a fucking million more powerful creatures in d&d.

>There's a fucking million more powerful creatures in d&d.
Assuming we're talking about psychic ones.

Why did the shadow monster fly into space after it was exorcised?
Doesn't it matter that there's a shadow monster on the loose?

Rudy as the lich. His Basic knowledge giving him magic control over machines. He's going to hold Will hostage to get Winona to give up her backside.

Let me ask you this. Do you think the reason for the cosmos could be explained in prosaic terms? Or would it be beyond human understanding?

How something material exist in and of itself? Surely it would have to break its own laws in order to. That is still a mystery.

Never be a writer.

>there are people who unironically think the Upside-Down creatures should be manmade bioweapons instead of spooky otherworldly monsters

>le ancient cosmos xd

Would it be more or less scary if the Mind Flayer could directly communicate with people?

I found all the insinuations that he was using Will as a pair of eyes and the "he likes it cold" thing pretty spoopy but I'm wondering if they should go more in that direction, or would it be too much.

Its going inhabit el as dark phoenix and pooinloo will stop her.

What is that from?

Is that pic a metaphor for vaginas?

>he didn't grasp the Kafkaesque Freudian implications

smfh

If you're in the Upside Down, just being near lights will make them flicker in the real world.

this is quite a shitesque thread

Why is it always tentacles.

Have you seen the show?
It's made of shadows.

>and pooinloo will stop her.
I think she'll be retconned out of the show considering people hated her episode.

what show?

The show the picture is from.

There will be more of her and diversity gang in s3.

I dont know what show is that. I thought this was an Eldritch General.

>explaining
They already fucked up by showing it up close.

First for The Mist did it better.

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Didn't look nearly as big when it came close.

Stranger Things

I didn't know either, had to reverse search the image

All I know is that I was really disappointed that the creature is just a bunch of black mist.

It should've been an actual physical monster made from flesh.

Demodogs are made of flesh.

i reckon it probably just controls the mist to see, eye of sauron style. there's probably a human-sized creature that controls it

especially since they decided to call it a mind flayer rather than an eldritch horror.

>"EXPLAIN EVERYTHING TO MEE"
>"GOOGOOGAAGAA"
>"PEEPEEPOOPOO"

it's the omnigorgon dickslayer

Nigger what. It's a hivemind. The spores and smoke is just billions of mind flayers all connected.

It's the future and that is the girl. I haven't seen this show but I know the writers.

>trust me guys, my dad works at xbox

No. You're right in the sense that the makeup of the universe must necessarily become ineffable at some point, but there's nothing to say this equates to madness or horror.

Leave him alone. user was spitballing.

Lovecraft is speaking to the fact that there are some things which our brain cannot comprehend; a common reaction to this is fear. Fear of the unknown.

It's an Amygdala.

I know. He beat that horse to death.

why was it called the "Pipelayer"

what was netflix implying?

Season 2 was a mistake.

You don't need to point it out, that's the joke you fucking dip

I believe atheists themselves have this fear.

That is why they are willing to overlook this vast mystery of the cosmos and explain it away in the simplest way they can or dismiss it.

They cannot abide the fact that something exists outside of their understanding.

Or: the upside-down is one of many parallel worlds that have been conquered by the shadow monster.

That would be lazy writing

The upside down is the chaos dimension.

The demogorgon in Season 1 was just trying to escape his conquered world

Stranger things fans are fucking stupid

season 1
>good mix between horror and comfy suburban 80s
season 2
>way too much emphasis on long, boring and predictable jumpscares, and the 80s feeling is almost completely gone