So, Fahrenheit 9/11 was just completely debunked by the Trump administration’s release of hundreds of thousands of documents seized in the 2011 bin Laden raid. One of the most popular and successful documentaries ever made has been nullified and can be thrown in trash.
The documentary posits that the Iraq War was predicated on a lie, that “lie” being that Saddam/Iraq had connections to al Qeada. Well turns out-
>One newly-available audio file contains a biography for Zarqawi, placing him in Baghdad before the American-led invasion and tracing his travels to Iran, Syria and elsewhere. Other audio files summarize al Qaeda’s opinions of various Saudi sheikhs, some of whom supported the jihadis’ efforts in Iraq. archive.is/IdNmi
Basically, Bush was right. Al Qaeda was operating in Iraq and Iran. Michael Moore is colossal douche and has been wrong about everything.
>vague "support" for Al Quaeda's ops in Iraq >"HURRR DURR U SEE? SADAM AND BIN LADEN WHERE BESTIES" (even though they were from completely different and enemy sects) >"HURRR DURRR BASED DRUMPF MAGA GO TO WAR PLS MR TRUMP"
faggot trumptard kys
Nathaniel Ramirez
I thought the "lie" with relation to Iraq was the WMDs. The dossier on the subject produced by shitheels Tony Blair, Peter Mandelson and Alastair Campbell of the Labour Party was completely and conclusively debunked, later being revealed as a speculative student thesis project Campbell had acquired and in his own words, "sexed up".
Andrew Green
There's no evidence they were working with Saddam.
Bentley Young
>vague support >al Qeada 2nd-in-command in Iraq and Iran planning operations SEETHING
Jason Ross
>"connection with al quadea" >somebody from iraq once complimented someone from al quaeda I mean, what else was I expecting from a fucking Trumptard?
Samuel Perry
No, we sent wmd inspectors in and Saddam kicked them out. But the entire basis for the inspection was the U.S. accusations that Iraq was aiding al Qeada.
Zarqawi being there prior to 2003 is something that was known by a lot of people already, but now we have proof.
Brody Howard
The CIA just released the evidence today. Read the article.
William Wood
OP is a faggot 14 year old. Anyone that was old enough to remember remembers that the pitch to invade Iraq was that Saddam was secretly holding WMDs, it had nothing to do with 9/11.
Saddam and 9/11 came later after the war failed in a desperate attempt to try and make idiot republican voters forget they got bamboozled.
Luke Sanchez
Being in Iraq doesn't mean Zarqawi was working with Saddam. There's nothing in the article that supports what you're saying.
Bentley Campbell
Do you even know who Zarqawi is? Probably not if you learned everything you know about the Iraq War from Michael Moore.
Elijah Barnes
the letters t and v look nothing like pol. instead of filling up your heads with right wing propaganda, try reviewing your old junior high english notes.
Jack Rivera
Yea, I was 14 when the started. What you “remember” doesn’t matter. CIA just BTFO’d the entire basis of Leftist anti-Bush ideology. You have been BTFO. You cannot debate this evidence.
Tyler Anderson
It's not just "somebody from iraq." It's the fucking head politicians of the regime, you faggot.
Blake Scott
>the most famous documentary ever has been debunked >g-g-go back to Sup Forums
Josiah Watson
The invasion of Iraq took place on March 20, 2003. Abu Musab al-Zarqawi joined Al-Qeada in 2004, after the invasion.
"Iraq continues to flaunt its hostility toward America and to support terror. The Iraqi regime has plotted to develop anthrax and nerve gas and nuclear weapons for over a decade. This is a regime that has already used poison gas to murder thousands of its own citizens, leaving the bodies of mothers huddled over their dead children. This is a regime that agreed to international inspections, then kicked out the inspectors. This is a regime that has something to hide from the civilized world.
States like these and their terrorist allies constitute an axis of evil, arming to threaten the peace of the world. By seeking weapons of mass destruction, these regimes pose a grave and growing danger. They could provide these arms to terrorists, giving them the means to match their hatred. They could attack our allies or attempt to blackmail the United States. In any of these cases, the price of indifference would be catastrophic.
We will work closely with our coalition to deny terrorists and their state sponsors the materials, technology, and expertise to make and deliver weapons of mass destruction. We will develop and deploy effective missile defenses to protect America and our allies from sudden attack. And all nations should know: America will do what is necessary to ensure our nation's security.
We'll be deliberate; yet, time is not on our side. I will not wait on events while dangers gather. I will not stand by as peril draws closer and closer. The United States of America will not permit the world's most dangerous regimes to threaten us with the world's most destructive weapons."
Jayden Cruz
>somebody from iraq JUST SOMEBODY FROM IRAQ
Thomas Thompson
>the most famous documentary ever what?
Oliver Carter
>Implying the invasion of Iraq was due to 9/11
Oh, how cute. Look at that little conservative squirm
Cameron Smith
>Wikipedia as a source Zarqawi has been friends with bin Laden since the Mujahideen days. He was part of al Qeada from the beginning. You are a moron
Bentley Baker
this moots /OP/s point
Mason Brooks
But didnt you guys just say the CIA are liars and russia is not colluding with trump? Which is it :^)
Alexander Peterson
Yes, my fellow BASED magapede. I too support neocon wars in the middle east. They're so BASED and REDPILLED. Only a TRIGGERED cuckold snowflake could possibly disagree with American interventionism. PRAISE KEK! SHADILAY!
Adrian Cook
What do I need to refute? Read the article. There is literally no debating what I’m saying?
What is your question that I apparently can’t avswer?
Adrian King
>trying to convince Sup Forums of anything beyond cuckoldry there's an active BLACKED thread on the first page. what do you expect to come from this board?
Josiah Powell
>Iraq continues to flaunt its hostility toward America and to support terror. >continues to support terror It’s the first sentence, user. I know you seething because your world is crumbling down.
Robert Hughes
The CIA just proved the link. It also vindicates Trump’s current stance towards Iran.
Shitskins are seething right now
Ethan Green
Why are we trusting what the CIA says now?
Noah Scott
Where in the article does it say that Zarqawi was working with the Iraqi government? Can you quote it for me?
Hudson Smith
The CIA never said that. I know Rachel Maddow viewers live in an alternate universe, but try to get a grip.
Juan Lee
Seething tanned European
James Moore
We went to Iraq for WMDs and not al queda. So what the fuck are you talking about? That is my question.
Owen Morales
A guy like Zarqawi didn’t get in/out of Iraq without Saddam knowing. You should try to read up on the actual intricacies of the Iraq War instead of relying on Michael Moore docs and Jon Stewart joked
Caleb Butler
Go back to if you don't like it, sweetheart.
Jaxson Lee
A.Q. were opposed to Saddam and his Bath party, and Saddam and the Bathists were opposed to A.Q. and their Wahhabist view of Islam.
The Bath party was composed of "moderate" Sunni Muslims that, while not favoring other religions, allowed them to peacefully exist in Iraq as long as they didn't start any shit. That's why Iraq still has so many Shia Muslims,despite the war with Iran, and why there were still Jews and Christians and other religious groups living in Iraq while Saddam was still in power. A.Q., and the Wahhabists, were a direct threat to Saddam and the Bathists because their system puts the religious clerics in power, and not the political party or politicians.
The U.S. invaded Iraq simply because it was the only middle eastern nation that was in direct and open opposition to U.S. policy in the middle east, and the U.S. wanted to make an example of what happens to Muslim dictators when they decide not to play ball.
Interestingly enough, the insurgency that took place after the U.S. invasion destroyed the Bath government is pretty much the same insurgency that happened to Saddam after Gulf War I. However, unlike the pussy U.S., Saddam absolutely CRUSHED the insurgency and re-established Bath rule and stability in Iraq, which is something the U.S. failed to do.
Caleb Campbell
Nope, it was Saddam aiding terrorists (ie al Qaeda)
Andrew Campbell
hes saying the public were told that it was for WMDs that has since been proven to be abricated and it seems now with this new evidence they went in due to the zarqawi link and made up wmds as a cover 4d chess or sum shit i guess
Samuel Adams
>CIA not shifting the blame to Al Queda to save face >Trusting the CIA ever
Kevin Bell
Zarqawi didn’t have relationships with Saddam or his administration. He travelled in these countries probably trying to form secret networks to undermine these regimes. Trying to make it seem like they were working together is fucking retarded considering Iran is in direct conflict with al Qaeda in Yemen and Syria and Iraq was by and large secular and Bin Laden considered Saddam an infidel.
Angel Edwards
Please post the earliest quote from GWB, Cheney, Rice, or Powell implicating Iraq in 9/11
Hudson Collins
>Sup Forums >always excelling at making narrative
Eli Evans
>cia releases "evidence" that validates the neocon agenda against iran BASED SAUDIS NUMBER ONE ALLY
Christian Ward
First of all, the wmds were never debunked and in fact the US found materials for wmd assembly after the invasion.
The connection to al Qaeda was the bigger selling point.
David Diaz
Explain to me how Zarqawi and his people got in and out of Iraq without Saddam knowing?
Gavin Fisher
im not saying thats what i believe sperg dont argue with me. i was just presenting his stupid argument in the best light possible
Cooper Harris
>it's literally in the article >quote it for me >actually you have to read between the lines > >you just aren't a middle east scholar like myself
Hunter Parker
>President Bush allegedly made the case to Tony Blair as early as September 14, 2001, although Blair urged him not to pursue the claim.[12]
>In addition, Bush received on September 21, 2001, a classified President's Daily Brief (PDB), indicating the U.S. intelligence community had no evidence linking Saddam Hussein to the September 11th attacks and that "there was scant credible evidence that Iraq had any significant collaborative ties with Al Qaeda."[13]
>Vice President Dick Cheney had told Meet the Press on December 9, 2001, that Iraq was harboring Abdul Rahman Yasin, a suspect in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing,
>the evidence isn’t real because it doesn’t match my preconceived notions that I’ve held onto all of these years Not an argument
Dominic Brooks
LONG LIVE ISRAEL GREATEST ALLY OF ALL! DESTROY IRAN! KILL SADDAM! STABILITY BAD! TERRORISM GOOD!
Kevin Carter
He might have known about it but that doesn't prove collusion. He very well could have him under surveillance.
Leo Morales
The quote is in op. The actual audio file will be released soon. Try at least reading.
Lucas Gomez
checkem
Easton Butler
TRUMP ABSOLUTELY BTFO BY BASED MICHAEL
Jacob Ward
>the wmds were never debunked
That's because it was the U.S. that SOLD them the "WMD's" in the first place back in the 80's, in the form of nerve agent and mustard gas that Saddam used against Iran, and his own Iraqi Kurds.
As for nukes? I'm sure they had a nuclear program, but I highly doubt they had any advanced shit at their disposal.
Colton Kelly
Saddam was also harboring the main planner of the ‘93 WTC bombings.
Evan Campbell
>Something GWB never made public >Something in direct opposition to your position >Cheney implicated Iraq in harboring a suspect in a completely different terror attack that happened almost a decade before 9/11
To be fair, you have to have a pretty high IQ to be a Sup Forumstard
Josiah Myers
>That's because it was the U.S. that SOLD them the "WMD's" in the first place back in the 80's, in the form of nerve agent and mustard gas that Saddam used against Iran, and his own Iraqi Kurds. So that makes it okay for them to break international law by using them on Iran and Kuwait?
Alexander Rodriguez
Ouch!
Jacob Perry
>being this desperate
>In the same Meet the Press interviews, Cheney implied a connection between Iraq and Mohamed Atta;
Oliver Gray
>cia literally arms al qaed..err al nusra and "moderate" sunni rebels in syria >allow the free movement of "moderate" syrian rebels in and out of iraq laying the groundwork for ISIL B-b-but IRAAAAAANNNNNNN
Noah Campbell
R E T C O N N E D
Josiah Bailey
The same way millions of Mexicans and south Americans get across the U.S. border every year....by driving, walking, sailing, or whatever it takes.
Aiden Sanders
>he doesn’t even know that al Qaeda was responsible for the first attack >he doesn’t know there are different intelligence agencies Do you even know anything about this subject? Serious question?
Mason Martinez
So you admit you know nothing about Iraq under Saddam’s control?
Carson Adams
Because Zarqawi was a fucking nobody pre-Iraq war, just some Jordanian exile. Saddam’s intelligence networks went no further than its borders. They were basically under siege from all sides. I wouldn’t be surprised if the CIA knew full well who he was and let him travel freely wouldn’t surprise me if they or their Saudi friends gave him fake papers to travel into Iraq. Probably the stuff which is left out for National Securitu reasons.
Henry Parker
Looked like a controlled demolition m8s
Landon Bennett
>break international law Chemical agents are only banned by nations that sign the treaty to ban them, and most of those nations are western nations. Iraq, and a lot of other nations, didn't sign that shit, so those stupid western "laws of war" don't apply.
Christian Howard
>take these chemical weapons but just pinky swear you won't use them >DUDE WTF YOU PROMISED
Samuel Davis
>IRAAAAAANNNNNNN Iran arms the Shia in the Mahdi Militia around Bahgdad, and any other sympathetic Shia group.
Gabriel Nelson
Are you really this stupid?
I did two years over there, dumbass, and there is no "control" of who gets in or out of that nation, as the borders are porous as shit and little more than open desert with countless trails that traverse them.
Camden Cruz
Saddam didn't kick them out, you fucking idiot
Juan Robinson
Audio files of Al Qaeda affiliates operating in Iraq doesn't guarantee that they were connected with Saddam you fucking straw man grasping philistine.
Saddam hated Islamist radicals and he fed them to the wood chippers just like anyone else who wanted to operate in Iraq outside of his breadth of complete control.
What little connections we can draw between Saddam and groups labeled as terrorists by our state department lead to anti-Kurdish groups operating in the frontiers of Iraq to destabilize pro-American groups in Saddam's backyard. Of course using that to judge Saddam would be a bit of a hypocrisy, because we have labeled the very same Kurdistani groups we're helping as terrorist groups, also. Welcome to the cluster fuck of of nuanced proxy wars, you novice.
So rofl go back to school.
Also, yeah generally everything by Michael Moore is bad preachy shit.
Owen Gray
And? They also arm the Houthis, Hezbollah, and the Fatemiyoun. The difference is that these groups are regionally focused and do not conduct terror attacks abroad unlike the salafists that the Saudis and the US prop up.
Nicholas Smith
We did find WMDs in Iraq, just not in the quantity that was used to justify the invasion. We actually found more WMDs in Libya than in Iraq as far as I know. We actually found them. Many times they found us.
Recommend NYT multi-article covering of instances where we found them and troops got fucked up by them, by C.J. Chivers (I was one of the unnamed sources).
The oddest fucking thing is that in my experience, and that of others, is that DOD practically denied everyone of these instances. Literally with MEDEVACs having taken place, and acknowledge long-term treatment of chemical weapon wounds by Medical Corps and the VA.
Always thought that DOD/Bush Administration would jump on actual evidence more than they would try to suppress it. We did sell Saddam a decent amount of bio-chem agents during the Iran-Iraq War, the largest supplier was demonstrably France.
Elijah Campbell
>Sup Forums is a pro-Trump board during a time when his presidency is in trainwreck mode. This is what Sup Forumstards actually believe.
Robert Sullivan
Sup Forums has reached the point where they're defending the invasion of Iraq now eh
