We can all agree the Lannisters were in the right, yes?
I'm just finishing season 4 and so far all their official moves are pretty legit. The Baratheon brothers were conspiring against them, and the Starks rose in an unjust rebellion after Eddard attempted a palace coup.
I'm not saying some of the personal lifestyle choices of Cersei and Jaime are perfect, but politically they've done nothing wrong. And Tywin and Tyrion are pretty much always right.
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Yes, and your sentiment will only get stronger in the next three seasons. They are doing whay they need to survive in a harsh world. And Jaime is based as fuck.
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Was wondering the same.
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>We can all agree the Lannisters were in the right, yes?
Yes. But you need to know that you're now one of the few who are enlightened, though.
If anything the case for the Lannisters only grows stronger. By last season they're pretty much the only hope for Westeros.
>next three seasons
Thankfully this overrated trash is only getting one last season.
>5 spinoffs
the only truly bad lannister was joffrey, cersei is ice queen but she does what she needs to survive in a land where there's three fucking dragons in the enemy's hand and the son of the guy that you got accidentally killed because your son is a shithead
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Even if Joffrey was a bit of a cunt on a personal level, I can't think of any official decisions he made that were bad.
>I'm not saying some of the personal lifestyle choices of Cersei and Jaime are perfect, but politically they've done nothing wrong
What? They subverted the whole basis of the entire right to rule. The "Baratheon" children aren't Baratheons at all, hell they're not even trueborns, they're bastards. Robert is not their father. How on earth did you miss this? It's the entire point of the conflict.
Tywin, Joffrey, and Cersei are all evil. Jaime and Tyrion are in a moral grey area, with Tyrion being whitewashed in the show (they cut out the bits where he fantasizes about raping/murdering Cersei).
They sanitized Jaime too.
jaimes in the right, cersei is just
No, Stannis is real king.
Please god be true
Why did Stannis want to kill Robb? I get that he wanted the North to be independent and sided with Renly initially, but if Stannis had shown him the letter he received from Ned saying that he was the rightful heir, Robb probably would have co-operated (it's not like Robb was the one who wanted to be a king, his followers were the ones who said he should be their king).
Cersei was the only real cunt. Joffrey was only a cunt because Cersei was a terrible mother.
i hope White Walkers kill every single human
>They subverted the whole basis of the entire right to rule
... and? The Baratheons had already done that when they stole the throne.
If Robert recognized Cersei's children as his own, it doesn't matter if they might not have been trueborns. And given Tywin's successful reign as Hand of the King it was a better idea to put the governing of the realm back into the hands of Lannisters.
Tywin and Tyrion did everything right.
Cersei did everything wrong until she blew up the Sept
Jaime is mediocre.
>Tywin, Joffrey, and Cersei are all evil
Wrong. But they do fight evil (Stannis, the Starks, Daenerys).
>Why did Stannis want to kill Robb?
Rebellion and treason, most likely. Death is usually a punishment.
>Starks are evil
Literally only defended their own realm.
>I'm not saying some of the personal lifestyle choices of Cersei and Jaime are perfect,
What do you mean by that?
>. And given Tywin's successful reign as Hand of the King it was a better idea to put the governing of the realm back into the hands of Lannisters.
Considering that Tywin is extremely old in the show and has literally a few years to live, putting power in the hands of the Lannisters is the worst thing you can do because as soon as he dies, the only thing protecting everyone from Cersei "Human Tornado" Lannister is Tywin's brother Kevan, who is also very old and will also soon be dead.
Stannis isn't really all that reasonable. He enforces the law as he sees it no matter what, like when he chopped off Davos' fingers *after* Davos saved his life. In his mind, he's the rightful king and by refusing to recognize that Robb is rebelling against him. The penalty for that is death.
After Robert killed all the Targaryens, Robert was technically the rightful heir to the throne (if you ignore everyone who had renounced their titles or gone missing). The Lannisters had no Targaryen blood in them.
I too have a soft spot for the Lannisters. They've simply best the best players in the "game" despite their self sabotage.
>trigger rebellion against Targaryens by trying to murder crown prince
>attempt palace coup against the Baratheons
>march an army south into the riverlands (not their realm) and launch attacks on Lannister bannermen, invade the westerlands and crownlands
Starks were out of control and needed to be put down.
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I don't personally agree with incest but it's not my place to judge others for who they love.
>Considering that Tywin is extremely old
Well duh, no one lives forever. The idea is for him to stabilize things as Hand and impart his wisdom on to Joffrey and Tommen.
Joffrey wasn't a Baratheon, so he had no right to the throne. If they wanted to continue ruling Westeros, Cersei shouldn't have fucked her brother.
That's a weak argument considering Robert stole the throne. Even his own blood, Renly, recognized that "right" is made by might.
That's right, love is love, bigot. And it's perfect, no matter the genetics.
>the only hope for westeros
>"lel let's fuck over all the lands with a pointless war, not lay in enough supplies for winter, fuck all the armies that we need to hold back the white walkers, and backstab everyone who's planning to fight the actual threat
What did he mean by this?
god bless you
Just finished Season 4 and heard that Season 5 is fucking abysmal. I ended up reading what happens to based characters like Jaime in the later season. I also know of some of the later spoilers, Night King warging one of Daenarys's dragons, Jon Snow becoming King of the North and having Targaryen blood, Cersei getting dicked on by the Sparrows and becoming Queen. I could list more but you get the idea. Should I just skip ahead to Season 7 and get caught up, or keep watching everything?
Bit hard to stabilise things as the Hand when you have Cersei and Joffrey fucking everything you try to do up and Joffrey being utterly uncontrollable though.
And if he was going to arrange for a convenient accident to happen to Cersei and Joffrey he would have acted sooner. Pretty clear he didn't know how to handle the situation and/or couldn't any more.
literally what did you mean?
Cersei was in check once Tywin was in the capital. Joffrey too. Varys setting Tyrion up to murder Tywin is what ruined the situation.
>Cersei was in check once Tywin was in the capital.
Yes, but he would be dead within a few years.
>trigger rebellion against Targaryens by trying to murder crown prince
What the hell are you talking about? That's not what happened at all. The rebellion started because when Rhaegar Targaryen ran away with Lyanna Stark, Rickard and Brandon Stark went to King's Landing and asked King Aerys to bring her back. Aerys responded by setting them on fire. No Stark tried to murder Rhaegar, the only time he even fought in a battle was at the Trident where Robert Baratheon killed him.
That literally everything wrong in Westeros can be laid at the Lannister's feet.
Robert goes from being Based Bobby B to a whiny bittercunt because Cersei is such an unrelenting bitch.
Joffrey is a dipshit because Cersei never lets Robert discipline him.
The Kingdoms don't have the supplies to last through Winter because instead of buying grain they were paying for pointless wars.
The North is fucked because Tywin put the Boltons in charge, and they're now at the front line of the advancing zombie, ice dragon, and snow elf horde.
All the major noble houses are at each other's throats because of Lannister interference.
Ad infinitum. Ad nauseum.
>All the major noble houses are at each other's throats because of Lannister interference.
Well it's really all Littlefinger's fault. Lannisters didn't help though.
>Cersei was in check once Tywin was in the capital.
Ah, yes. Which is precisely how she was able to get literally everything she wanted and keep fucking everything up.
How could I have failed to see how Tywin's fabled political genius was able to keep her under control?
Tywin regarded Jaimie and Cersei as his legacy and did a grand total of fuck all to rain Cersei in. He tried with Jaimie but Jaimie told him where to go and what to do when he got there.
Yes, and Cersei would be removed within that period to somewhere else. Like I said, Varys engineered Tywin's murder too soon.
>Brandon goes to the Red Keep yelling for Rhaegar to "come out and die"
>starks dindu nuffin they good boys
Peddle it elsewhere.
Littlefinger was at best a pot stirrer. Him being a political mover and shaker has gone beyond memery at this point, all he ever did was try to play advantage in whatever situation he found himself in. He didn't have an 11-dimensional chess plan to rise to the top, he just did whatever he could to increase his power in the moment, gambling that he would eventually get into a position where he would be beyond retribution and able to punish everyone else.
The real players like Varys and Tywin ran rings around him without effort.
>literally everything wrong in Westeros can be laid at the Lannister's feet.
stopped reading there
littlefinger was literally /our/guy
>inheritance through the female line
>for the Targaryen Iron Throne
lol no, Technically at that point it goes to Maegor's kids if he had any, barring that, to Aegor River's kids if he had trueborn sons
>River
>because bastards can inherit
Do you even into succession, user?
>he doesn't know that Aegon IV legitimized all his bastards including Aegor
LMAO
>They sanitized Jaime too.
They actually didn't. He's slightly worse than the books:
- Murders his cousin to create a distraction to escape
- Rapes Cersei when he sees her again (supposed to be consensual in the books)
- Generally sticks with Cersei MUCH longer than in the books, although we don't know WTF will happen after ADWD due to Martin dying before TWOW ever came out. Oops, spoiler!
Based
He's also just barely started getting his redemption plotline now.
>implying that raping cersei is bad when she fucks moonboy
what an embarrassing post
Jamie is a fagot, fucking his sister.
Oh fuck is there a new Akabur game?
They killed the fucking King
A boar did that.
Only House Tully did nothing wrong
except lose horribly
Lena is fucking ugly why does everyone act like she's not
Nell was qter
getting rid of Ser Barristan and leaving the battlefield during Blackwater, and of course executing Ned were probably his biggest blunders. If he didn't have such a top-tier small council he would have fucked up even more
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The only character in GOT who was ever in the right was Stannis. Also Jaime is pretty based.
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>hot pie wasn't right
Thine mother.
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Daemon Blackfyre literally did nothing wrong and was the rightful king.
That's the line, mother fucker.
Is the show worth watching or should I stick to the books?
except their entire lifestyle choice was expressly illegal and tantamount to an unjust rebellion. Not to mention that Cersei went ahead and got Robert killed, thus participating in regicide in hopes of usurping the throne for the Lanisters.
get your head out of your ass.
Try and stop us.
They're different enough to-date that really you can go either way.
If you want a better story that will never be finished go for books, if you want better memes and a story that will be finished go for the show
>lannisters in the right
Cersei killing/fucking Ned was not in the right. Self defense for herself, sure. The right thing for her to do was to let the actual lineage laws take effect. Instead she fucked around with Jaime and killed all of Roberts true heirs.
The rest after is even less "in the right". Also good luck with everything post S4, cersei becomes even less of a likeable cunt
>Stannis and Robb Stark are evil
>Lannisters in the year 299-300AC are not
Not Cersei though. Jamie would make a good king.
why?
>We can all agree the Lannisters were in the right, yes?
No.
>The Baratheon brothers were conspiring against them
Because Cercei and Joffrey murdered all of Robert's legitimate and illegitimate children.
>the Starks rose in an unjust rebellion after Eddard attempted a palace coup
Because of above. Also, Joff murdered Ned and took Sansa (and they believed Arya) hostage.
>Politically they've done nothing wrong.
They put the second coming of the Mad King on the throne. Joffry only would have gotten worse if not for Olenna. The Stark's would have only been the first to rebel had he lived.
>And Tywin and Tyrion are pretty much always right.
Indeed. But Tywin spends most of the time trying to clean up Cercei's mess. All of this is pretty much her fault.
>unjust rebellion
lmao fucking lannister dindus