Now that the dust has settled, was it good?

Now that the dust has settled, was it good?

It was pretty bad. It's a Luc Besson film after all, the man hasn't directed anything good since the 90s.

I enjoyed the visuals, action and comedy, the story was pretty bad though.
I take an original movie like valerian over any disney remake, sequel or capeshit though.

Individual scenes were great, but it felt like he didn't know how to get from one to the other at times, so a lot of it just kinda meandering around. Still, I had a good time.

Fucking terrible

I liked it.

But I didn't get why they needed a SWAT team in a future where they could have just sent in high tech robots.

Literally just pushed watching it to find this thread. I LOVE it. The bad acting and super weird dialogue is aided by the fact that it is a 20% serious movie.
>Better aliens than NuWars
>Better robots than NuWars
>Better sets than NuWars
Rihanna is trash though and I'm expecting a disappointing ending.
I'd be interested to see someone make a "recast this movie" thread.

the thing is, i think a lot of people criticize it and complain as if its a serious film made for adults, its a movie made for kids, its very juvenile and doesnt even begin to approach dark subjects or complex narration

visuals, concepts, characters, all better than most films this year, but its STILL A KIDS MOVIE, quite obviously

>Rihanna is trash though
She acted surprisingly well imo.

It was shit, and the rihanna's death was laughable when they tried to make sympathize with a character that had obly ten minutes of screen time and mosy of it was with another appearance. What a shitty movie. That being said. At least tried to do something relatively different.

The world was interesting and the effects were pleasant to watch. Unfortunately, every character was boring.

She's a fine actress, I just meant her implementation.
Her quoting Shakespeare sounded ridiculous and her "beautifully artistic show" was pretty dumb. And just "guys I'm dead now"

This pretty much.
The story was mediocre and you pretty much know it barring the details a third through the movie because it is made clear to you that the Commander is a bad guy within moments of being introduced to him and that it is related to the aliens shown at the beginning of the movie. The K-Trons were no surprise because they winked at you several times throughout the movie saying they were going to execute order 66 at the end. The love is the most powerful thing trope really put the nail in the coffin at the end too.

10 minutes into it now and yes the visuals are fucking amazing best I've seen in a long time and theres some nice world building thats not for something thats disney,star wars,marvel,DC for once

Idris Elba.

not really the visuals and setting are great but the leads are terrible and the plot is super generic and predictable. Worth watching once cause its fun to look at but that's about it.

>the man hasn't directed anything good since the 90s.

Didn't stop people from talking themselves into liking Phantom Dennis The Menace, when George did it.

Dialouge was horrible.

The central plot of Valerians character (he is space-chad, wants to fuck eybrows, gets rejected, learns to be a better person from Rihanna, then gets the girl and saves the world) is just so terribly implemented.

Its also very dated, and to be blunt 60's-sexist.

i think cara is the cutest girl in the world

>60s
gee I wonder why?
>sexist
How so? Laureline was a better character than Valerian and there weren't exactly any other female characters.

Not her character, his.

He's a guy who is introduced trying to fuck his coworker, and then we learn that he keeps "lists" of all the women he sees. This is kept as a running gag. He also has commitment issues. Its a character Sean Connery could play, and no one else.

The trans dimesional sene where they recover the converter was a very cool concept and nicely executed dont think ive seen something like that in a sci-fi before

she normally doesnt look nice but here she had literal blacked style makeup and lighting which was flattering on her

I haven't watched it but I am going to bet it will be kino in 10 years time.

>mfw I kept getting told the fifth element is "SO GOOD" and then I watched it and it's one of the worst movies I have ever laid eyes on

it was pretty good, fun plot that let you just tune out of all the shit that's going on in the world right now

You didn't like LUCY?

it wasn't great, but it was different enough from all the other crap coming out now that I liked it anyway

I'm pretty sure they had fucked at least once, that's what the first ten minutes implied to me. But yeah pretty horribly cast. I think you're wrong about Sean Connery though, Valerian can't be too naturally suave or else his rejection wouldn't make much sense.

they're sexy and I wanna fuck them, that's all that matters

Fifth Element is one of my favorite movies and it's why I love this movie.
Also the three aliens that are obviously straight from a raunchy French comic.

>love is the most powerful thing
Science fiction just can't stop doing this, can they?
It's the ultimate cop-out ending.

This movie is a rare example of the secondary love story being as good as if not better than the main plot.

better than most movies these days despite the autistic scribbles that served as the script, these two had surprising chemistry on screen

Valerian is my first time walking out on a movie.

Not him, but Lucy is so fucking bad.

The plot is nonsensical, and I absolutely hate Scarlett's robotic "I have ascended above humanity" acting. Literally autism.

Okay this is now my second favorite film of the year after BR2049 this is actually such a beautiful movie and I love the sci-fi concepts they used and the whole world it exists in. It's so much braver than all of the capeshit that tries to wordbuild and use powers and space

that they even went into great detail how the commander was evil was such a ridiculous scene
so much exposition it was like it was from an anime

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The opening scene set to Space Oddity is kino. Everything after is irredeemable trash.

The leads are a girly man and a manly girl. And then the story wants us to believe they love eachother

Yeah man. Gotta love those obvious kids movies where a guy brags about his sexual conquests.

You know you are in trouble when the Jackie "I wan no tlubble" Chan extras are acting better than you

pleb

I know my favorite kids movies included a 2 and a half minute long pole dance sequence

not a chance in hell with those actarz especially the (fe)male