/bond/ - Bond General

Autism, idle conversation, whatever. I'll start.

>Top 7 Bond Girls (hotness)
Maryam d'Abo
Izabella Scorupco
Claudine Auger
Jane Seymour
Eva Green
Britt Ekland
Carey Lowell

Bond is only alive because goons with automatic weapons don't know how to lead.

>7 Favorite Theme Songs
You Only Live Twice
Live and Let Die
OHMSS
The Living Daylights
Tomorrow Never Dies
Goldfinger
The World is Not Enough

Or how to just kill him on the spot. Every time he's dragged to some other location, I keep thinking of Scott Evil ("Why don't I go to my room and grab my gun...")

>Movies Ranked (rewatched so far)
Casino Royale
Goldeneye
The Living Daylights
License to Kill
Skyfall
The World is Not Enough
Live and Let Die
Quantum of Solace
Tomorrow Never Dies
Die Another Day
Spectre

Moores are more fun than i remember

Is that db9?

what the fuck is this picture? Bond would never lean on a car. at least not unless he was fucking a girl

Skyfall is one of the worst bond movies ever made
>One of the worst Bond songs (besides QoS)
>Villain was a gigantic faggot
>Annoying l33t haxxor Q
>Horrible third act (basically Home Alone)
>Moneypenny is suddenly black coz muh inclusion

QoS was bad too. It was forgettable as fuck. I feel asleep halfway through the movie.

>bad taste
>inconsequential detail
>stupid opinion
>half right
>muh racism

You certainly changed my mind, friend.

Oh, shit. This guy is embarrassing you, dude.

>QoS was bad too

It actually wasn’t

>From Russia with Love:
Connery at his best and the series in its maturest form.
>Casino Royale
Excellent reinvention of the series.
>The Spy Who Loved Me
Top tier Bond film. Perfect balance of class and levity.
>Skyfall
Hits the sweet spot between old and new sensibilities.
>On Her Majesty's Secret Service
Criminally underrated film that contains a compelling romance,and some of the most exciting sequences in the series

Nah quantum of solace is shit he director went out of his way to subvert the bond formula as much as possible. It's Bond in name only and necessitated the soft reboot that is skyfall

It needs updating.

>From Russia with Love
>Not God tier
Whoever made this is a turbo pleb f the highest degree

Tomorrow never dies and skyfall should be moved to shit tier
QoS was forgettable as hell.

Scorupco and Ekland don't belong on that list, IMO. I'm not even sure Carey Lowell does. Ursula Andress definitely does. And for the other spots, maybe Carole Bouquet (her movie sucked, but she was still pretty darn cute in it)? Diana Rigg? Barbara Bach? Even Daniela Bianchi had her moments (despite her voice being dubbed over by another actress).

I would ditch Tomorrow Never Dies and include A View to a Kill. Duran Duran >> Sheryl Crow any day and every day (I might be showing my age here, though).

>some of the most exciting sequences in the series
This. For instance, the skiing scenes in OHMSS make the ones from the Moore era look like a bad joke.

I love Duran Duran and probably like one other Sheryl Crow song that's not TND if I had to think about it, but there's something about TND's music that I really dig.

About to watch License to Kill lads. Am I going to have fun?

The opening action scene and the bar scene are both pretty bad and very poorly choreographed (and the song sucks), but it's one of the better Bond movies. Great plot that builds to a big chase rather than is broken up by needless set pieces. Bond fucking with a guy he hates is fun to watch.

There is so fucking much wrong with this it's painful.

Goldfinger and Goldeneye are both solid, but neither is God Tier.

For Your Eyes Only is god-awful, The Spy who Loved Me was good but not great, Thunderball is probably Connery's best and belongs in God Tier, Licence to Kill is not better than The Living Daylights. Can't speak to Skyfall, but I don't think many would rate it above "good."

Diamonds Are Forever is not good. Tomorrow Never Dies is somewhere between forgettable and shit. OHMSS is probably the best film in the franchise, and The Living Daylights is God Tier as well.

You Only Live Twice deserves to be higher, as does Live andLet Die. Die another Day is hot garbage: the worst film in the franchise.

It's not in the sense that Spectre makes it look like a fucking masterpiece.

>Thunderball is probably Connery's best and belongs in God Tier
that movie cannot be "god tier" with that godawful underwater sequence.

Put Spectre in Shit Tier. I'm not sure if I can properly express how much I hated Spectre, Jesus Christ.

>Spectre
Painfully lazy film that simultaneously killed all the efforts of making this series mature and squandering the goodwill to revert back to classic formula.

>Thunderball
I really don't see the appeal of Thunderball. Of the official films, besides Diamonds Are Forever, I consider it his worst Bond film.

It's not godawful by the standards of the time period when it was made.

Having the best bond girl of the era goes a long way. Also, it had a solid villain with a much more plausible "evil plan" than any other film in the Connnery era aside from From Russia With Love. Also has one of the best soundtracks of all of the films (including Tom Jones' awesome theme song performance where he actually held the final note so long that he fainted).

but it's not god tier, and there are better connery films out there.

Is there any behind the scenes footage or images of the early title sequences?

>No casino royale
Sorry but no, your list is incomplete

>but it's not god tier
Depends on your standards for God Tier, I guess.

IMO, if Thunderball isn't God Tier, then the only God Tier Bond Film is OHMSS, because it's literally the second best film in the franchise (pre-reboot, anyway: I haven't seen any of the Craig films and can't speak to them).

> there are better connery films out there.
Not really.

You Only Live Twice is close, maybe, but the cartoonish character of Blofeld's plan and the lack of a top bond girl put it behind Thunderball, IMO. Same goes for Goldfinger. Dr. No isn't lacks too much of the flair that developed later, and From Russia With Love is just plain dull for too much of the film.

Top Sevens - in no particular order:

>Girls:
d'Abo
Kurylenko
Ekland
Auger
Rigg
Adams
Munroe

>Films:
TLD
CR
SF
GE
FRWL
TB
GF

The Casino Royale theme song is forgettable post-grunge pablum. Like the themes for License to Kill and Goldeneye, it's a blemish on an otherwise fine film.

>Same goes for Goldfinger
>and From Russia With Love is just plain dull

what a fucking pleb

>Goldfinger's plan isn't cartoonish
>Honor Blackman isn't a low tier Bond girl

And the key phrase with regard to FRWL was
> for too much of the film
It was still a good film, but it had pacing issues because they were still trying to stick close to the book. Also Connery and Bianchi didn't always seem to have the best chemistry (I suspect the language barrier didn't help).

One of the benefits Thunderball had was that it was the first of the films that was written from the outset as a screenplay.

>pussy galore
>bad

such a bad taste, sad!

Forgot:
>Top 7 Gadgets
The golden gun
Q's 'ghetto blaster' rocket launcher disguised as a stereo (only demonstrated)
Lotus Esprit/submarine
Whistle-activated gas keychain +lockpick and explosive charge
Fake Crocodile minisub
Fountain pen: has acids to melt stuff + listening device in cap
DB5: ejector seat, bulletproof shield, hidden machine guns, etc, etc.


Captcha: casino graves

Fucking lol

She's a decent character, but as a "main" girl for the film, she leaves a lot to be desired. For one, Honor Blackman was nearly 40, which is far too old for a traditional Bond girl. And any Bond girl that we never get to see in a swimsuit or lingère automatically loses points. Plus, she isn't even introduced something like halfway through the film, by which time we've had two prettier and arguably more interesting girls killed off. In the film, Pussy doesn't even get the back-story elements that make her a compelling character. The way they used all three girls in that film makes them feel wasted.

Every bond movie after the world is not enough has been utter garbage. If I wanted to watch jason bourne I'd watch jason bourne. James bond is meant to be different. I want volcano space bases and cargo ships that eat submarines, underwater spear gun and knife fights. Thats james bond. Moonraker is the pinnacle of bond.

It's amazing how different the books are. I read Dr.No, and the latter half was essentially a dissertation on the evils of race mixing. The climax was a lot more bombastic with Bond going through a gauntlet, and fighting an octopus.

>jason bourne
james bond doesn't have enough of a shaky cam to be bourne-like.

Ian Fleming's intent was very different than the direction that the films took the character. In fact, Fleming wrote the novel version of The Spy Who Loved Me partly to convince readers that Bond wasn't really a hero. Unfortunately, the result was awful reviews and Fleming called it a "failed experiment," which is why he never sold the rights to that story, only the name (hence why the film version is mostly just a recycled You Only Live Twice).

Fleming, had he lived long enough, would probably have appreciated the darker, grittier, and more conflicted Bond of the Dalton and Craig eras. The only time the '60s/70s even approached that was with Lazenby. It would have been really interesting to see the Lazenby Diamonds Are Forever.

>The Spy Who Loved Me
>the film version is mostly just a recycled You Only Live Twice
And better in every way

Not every way.

-Roger Moore is still worst Bond.
-The submersible Lotus Esprit is kind of cool and kind of cringe-worthy at the same time.
-Stromberg is a poor-man's Blofeld (literally, since they planned to use Blofeld, but then couldn't because of the lawsuit) and Curt Jurgens was entirely forgettable, where Donald Pleasance was iconic.
-Considered as theme music, Carly Simon's fairly generic "Nobody Does it Better" is inferior to as Nancy Sinatra's eponymous theme for You Only Live Twice," IMO.

>Roger Moore is still worst Bond
Absolutey not. His first two efforts and last efforts weren't too hot (largely due to script and direction), though he was excellent from TSWLM to Octopussy.

>Stromberg is a poor-man's Blofeld
I can agree with this.

> Carly Simon's fairly generic "Nobody Does it Better" is inferior to as Nancy Sinatra's eponymous theme for You Only Live Twice
I like them both. But I prefer "Nobody Does it Better." Plus the song is paired with the best title sequence in the franchise.

Bond is a hero in The Spy Who Loved Me. He's just not the main character and has a lot of trouble beating a handful of thugs in an empty motel.

>darker, grittier, and more conflicted Bond of the Dalton and Craig eras
I love License to Kill because of this. It was the first Bond film in a while where he didn't seem like some sort of invincible superhero (he does end up getting hurt pretty badly by the end).
From the get-go, the gunbarrel theme sounds different from all others; it's far more dramatic. After we see what happens to Felix and his wife, we realize the drug baron isn't fucking around. Then there's the whole going rogue plotline, which is done way better than it was in QoS.

Live and Let Die was his best one, mate.

The Spy Who Loved Me was OK, but nothing special (maybe slightly ahead of The Man with the Golden Gun, although Christopher Lee did his best to salvage that one). Octopussy was shit; it only seems good coming on the heels of For Your Eyes Only. James Bond IN SPAAAACE! was the worst thing to happen to the franchise until Die Another Day.

Bond was already getting too campy with Diamonds are Forever, and Moore's approach only exacerbated that tendency. His particular brand of charisma played well in The Saint, and The Persuaders, but not as Bond. Furthermore, he was just plain too old. FFS, he was three years OLDER than Connery, who had been generally acknowledged as too old for the role ever since You Only Live Twice. We only got him because Lazenby's agent convinced him that Bond was a dying franchise and signing a seven film contract would hurt his career, and Dalton turned the role down after Diamonds because he thought he was too young for it.

>I prefer "Nobody Does it Better."
As a song, I might agree, just as a movie theme.
>Plus the song is paired with the best title sequence in the franchise.
Can't say I agree, but it's a question of personal taste. I'm more partial to the title sequences from OHMSS, Thunderball, and The Living Daylights, personally. Even in the Moore era, I'd say Octopussy might edge out The Spy Who Loved Me.