Let's be clear. Sexual assault is wrong. What Louis C.K. was wrong. Despite what some of the shills on this board think...

Let's be clear. Sexual assault is wrong. What Louis C.K. was wrong. Despite what some of the shills on this board think, asking a woman to watch you masturbate, have her laugh awkwardly and take that as consent is wrong. An awkward laugh isn't a yes.


But is there anything that these men could do to absolve themselves? Anything in the world? I was actually surprised at C.K.'s statement where he not only owned up to it but apologized as well. His choice of words wasn't the best, ("Showing people your dick is wrong") I did not at all, in any way, strike me as "narcissistic cock soup".

Are men like Ratner, Spacey, Weinstein and C.K. doomed for the rest of their lives? Is there nothing they could do for forgiveness? Is there anything left for them besides suicide?

Louie is a cuck, but should this guy lose everything? What he did and what Weinstein, Spacey did are not the same.

Shit dude you don't even need to actually commit a sex crime to have your name permanently besmirched, just the accusation is enough (see: the Hunt and every false rape accusation that got vast media attention until the girl confessed she made it up and the story miraculously vanished overnight)
People never trust you again, you are always that guy who probably did that thing, that guy who got himself off the hook, etc. Once the question is raised and the finger of blame pointed squarely at you everyone bar nobody will always have their doubts, a dump truck of evidence to the contrary can't change that because people just aren't rational enough
Now take that and switch it up so you not only actually did do it but did and got called out and had to public admit to doing it? You're fucking donezo
A good tip is don't get accused of sexual assault, an even better tip is don't sexually assault anyone

I saw a story where the girl said the celeb was a creep because he "hit on us"
the sex dolls cant get here fast enough.

They said they laughed and gave a thumbs up.

when will chads put women back in their place? I'm weaker than most women so I can't help.

>the sex dolls cant get here fast enough

Fucking this. If women want to live off on their own and think they're safe, have at it. I have no problem masturbating and being happy.

Louie will bounce back in ~7 years or so. He'll be pretty old for the standup game by then, but his character was always the slob we didn't want to admit we related too. This stuff just adds a darker layer to it. If anything I want to see his film more to look at all the hints about himself critics who've seen it have picked up on. I think the whole thing is pitiable more than something to be angry at.

Except he did fess up to his accusations. So far Piven seems the only one who wants to fight the allegations and Sulu is crashing his life.

The only logical solution is for women to return to Christianity, but they will just continue to be harlots and cry foul when they don't get their way.

The second louie got hit everyone forgot about Weinstein. I wonder why that happened.

Pee wee Herman was practically shunned when all he did was jack off in a porno theater, and that was in the 90s, and it took him a good 10 years or so to get good work and become relevant again.

The things are today I unfortunately can't see Louie getting out of this one. Feminists and social media will eat him alive until he crawls into a cave and becomes forgotten. It's sad really, obviously what he did was weird but definitely not something to be worried about or to consider him as some sortve sexual predator, maybe he needed to get knocked off his high horse a bit, but that's every single celebrity. It was messed up with what he did but it definitely should not have been brought up to the rest of the entire world and destroy his career. Spacey and Weinstein on the other hand have what's coming to them, which is also unfortunate cause spacey is a good actor.

Nobody likes or cares about Weinstein except as a symbol for Hollywood at large. People are actually hurt about the Louie thing

Did she not actually read the letter? He apologized to the victims directly, he just didn't apologize in the letter.

Which is exactly what I said, in the current climate that changes nothing, you don't get let off the hook if you fess up to being a witch during a witch hunt
Having something like this come out right now with all the media attention, no matter how banal, you might as well be Kramer screaming racial expletives, the crime doesn't fit the punishment but that's the way it goes sometimes
Picture it like an overnight revolution in one of those third world countries where that sort of thing happens, a crime that the day before gets you whack on the head now earns you an on the spot execution, whoops

As far as I can tell, he and all these liberal Hollywood types created this environment where the mob can and will destroy your career based on allegations. It's hard to feel sorry for them, you reap what you sow

Ratner is sueing one of the women who accuse him for libel. curiously he picked the one women who isnt a Hollywood actress but a literal who to do that.

How will he be able to do sexual humor anymore? I'd imagine he would be heckled for this.

Amongst this turnoil I'm more curious as to why everyone coming out with those accusations is always referring to some distant event of more than 15 years ago, and always against an A-Lister that's really popular now (and not necessarily at the time).

Hollywood never stopped being a place of constant sexual debauchery from its conception to our days, so why is every single person coming out about it only doing it by denouncing events no one has any chance of verifying from decades ago?

why is this fucking useless piece of shit cunt talking crap about Louie?

Chad is a state of mind.

Spacey and C.K. could redeem themselves; maybe in a year's time this whole scandal blows over and everyone in Hollywood forgets about it. Harvey "suck my dick to earn the golden stick" Weinstein is fucked no matter what.

They are doomed until a better news story comes up and everyone can virtue signal on fagbook and twitter about that and the lynch mob gets bored.

Who cares though, its fun watching the left eat itself.

Spacey not only physically touched people but touched underage boys. His career is dead three ways

CK can absolutely make a comeback in a few years time. Spacey is finished, dude will never work like he did before, he's done being what he was. He'll never return to that level of recognition, won't ever even come close.

They are all fucked. No one will hire them after this. Even if they wanted to hire them it’s just too risky. Like abort her user said, peewee Herman only jacked off to a fucking porno and his career never did fully recover

All he and others in Tinseltown have to do is claim they have converted to Islam and BAM instant free pass.

And they say women are oppressed when they have the power to end careers with simply saying a few words, true or not.

I suddenly want Lena to denigrate me and talk dirty to me.

I like how people think that if a funny guy happens to sexually harass some girls 10 years ago they stop being funny.

It doesn't affect shit as far as their actual material goes (not that louis has been funny for awhile).

Louie being a creepy pervert to all these cunts is the best that ever happened to their careers, they're probably now more famous than ever before

>the crime doesn't fit the punishment but that's the way it goes sometimes

It's silly of you to look at this as if what's happening to them is unfair. These people are celebrities, they sell themselves to the public, you put your life on display for money, when you turn that life ugly then you shouldn't be surprised that there are lot of people waiting to judge.

I only really consider it unfair when they make a media spectacle out of some normal John because there case stands out or involves the current social issue. "trans, nigger, muslim accuses man of rape"

Lol what the fuck Lena. Have these two ever when met?

No, they don't, but you have to understand that people will take what you allow them to.

One of these guys needs to stand up and say that: I fucked up 10 years ago and I apologize. In no way does my past actions reflect my current behavior.

you don't understand, words matter. the catcalling and misogynistic jokes and manspreading and threateningly loud male voices are what create the culture of rape that leads to all those bad things over there. we have to fix this first.

Subtle bait

They dug their own grave. Hollywood leftists gave all the power to women and professional victims and this happened. Completely deserved

"Ain't" isn't a word, Ms. Headey.

It was a terrified thumbs up though.

What makes this hilarious about Louis CK is that this is something I completely am not surprised that something like this came out. It almost confirms that he's as much as a sad piece of shit as I thought but him railing on himself for being a sad piece of shit is the entirety of his standup act

Or run for office as a Republican in Alabama and get a bump in the polls from evangelicals for it.

literally who

The difference is that Moore is denying it whereas Louis Louis Louis Louis has already come out and said that yes, in fact he does love jerking off in front of the women he works with.

>men like them
we're all doomed, idiot.

No I get it, I do. But this dude is literally losing everything!!! I am not a Louie fan, I hate the guy in fact. This is his kink, he got consent from the girls and wacked off, and this was waaaay before he was as rich as he is now. Like what did they think was going to happen going up to the room with him alone? he would be in less trouble if he had just fucked them.

I've have been fed-up with the whole male-feminist/ally/ men-are-assholes-am-I-right-ladies Schick for 2 years now.

I hope women are finally going these nu-males the old heave-ho.

lol what? What does him lying about it have to do with anything?

>complain about feminists ignoring pedophilia
>defend a pedophile

The absolute state.

>But is there anything that these men could do to absolve themselves?
Nope, but it teaches men something

>Louis CK
>Admits fault and apologizes
>Loses Netflix special, FX deals, Movie premier

>Kevin Spacey
>admits possible fault, apologizes, comes out as gay
>Loses Netflix show, hosting gig, stripped of honors

>Donald Trump
>Denies everything
>Elected President

>Roy Moore
>Denies everything
>about to be elected Senator

>Roman Polanski
>Denies wrongdoing
>Lifetime achievement award and a standing ovation

Even if you did it. Even if it was 40 years ago. Even if the evidence is overwhelming. Even if you're convicted.
DENY DENY DENY

No apology will ever redeem you. Nothing you can say will unfuck your life. Deny it and at least you can keep your dignity.

Exactly, he owed the women a personal apology, which he did, years ago.
the letter was an admission of guilt and to let the world know that the women were telling the truth. He empowered them, but no that's not enough

He does not owe the world an apology, it is between him and the women.

The fact that you people are saying "Weinstein and CK" in the same breath is insane to me. One guy literally raped women and destroyed the lives of others who wouldn't fuck him. The other guy asked for and received consent to jerk off or reframed from jerking off if he didn't get consent and never ruined anybody.

Louis is weird, but he's not a fucking predator. Stop exaggerating shit.

He got affirmative consent. It's what feminists asked for. Women didnt liked it irl because it's awkward and unmanly (something Louis most def is and likely has a humiliation fetish)

He said fine when the woman said no. That's it.

I wouldnt leave him alone with my girl friends or daughters (or maybe I would, women are dumb whores) but he only did something slightly 'wrong', not something in the same field as rape

The point is that no he doesn't deserve to lose everything but he was part of the crowd who helped create such a system in the first place. So fuck him.

A major aspect of Louis CK's scandal is how much he was respected by women and co-workers, and how this respect ended up hurting the women who came forward. So it really annoys me how people say it was "narcisistic" of him to put that into words.

I'm a man, a huge Louie fan, I defended him a lot before this shit turned out to be true. His apology was pretty much perfect. The fact he didnt used the word "SORRY" doesnt mean its an apology. That being said, I hope his carreer is finished.

It's obvious to us user but it'll be years before most idiots catch on that this is exactly what they're doing.

>Even if you did it. Even if it was 40 years ago. Even if the evidence is overwhelming. Even if you're convicted.
>DENY DENY DENY

That's the issue, that's what's bothering me so much about this. Why is everyone admitting everything the same day they're accused? Why are they doing something they KNOW there is no salvation from, after they themselves created a system in which admitting that kind of fault marks the end of your life?
This can't be just a natural reaction.
You can't just have people worth tens of millions of dollars unanimously deciding "Welp, might as well fess up" all at the same time and so quickly, for no reason.

A normal person would just go "It was 40 years ago, no one can possibly prove ANYTHING, I can just say No with zero consequences", and yet they're either digging themselves deeper (Takei) or straight out admitting it (CK)?
This is wrong.
This is weird.
There is something behind it.

Well all the women are having a massive press tour now.

>I'm sorry I pushed you in the bathroom
>You masturbated in front of me
>Oh yeah. I have issues.
>Apology accepted

Kek that entire NYT article was so funny as fuck.

>sexually assault people
>WTF WHY IS EVERYONE JUDGING ME I ALREADY SAID SORRY

Yeah if you commit a crime you gotta carry that shit with you the rest of your life. Life has consequences, it's time for you to grow up kiddo

>1990s - "No" means "No"
>2000s - Anything except "Yes" means "No"
>2010s - "Yes" doesn't mean "Yes"
>2020s - Ban sex robots

>I've never had an original thought.
Is that why you need to communicate entirely in Sup Forums cliches? I'm so so sorry.

to be fair to Judge Moore the girls were quite hot
and the Alabama sun does something real special to teenage flesh
it glistens

>>sexually assault people
where?

Inherently good people think that others will be empathetic and understanding of their mistakes, just as they would them.
In reality people want blood, and will devour you at the first sign of weakness.

>dude forcing people to watch you jerk off isn't sexual assault

brainlets pls go

just gimme muh Joi and be done with with.

These "Inherently good people" made it through the lower rungs of Hollywood and managed to rise to the top.
There is no fucking way that they got there with a clean soul and a naive rosy vision of people and the world, even if they were "inherently good people".
This level of ingenuity is just absurd coming from a famous entertainer, it just looks shady when put into context.

all the women said he didnt force them

>Force
He asked and they agreed. One woman declined and he didn't.

>Sluts wanting to suck you cock for a role is wrong
Weinstein did nothing wrong

Meh.
Get enough men ousted from Hollywood and they'll just band together and create films together.
That's the difference between men and women; men get back up again because there's a fucking job to do.

fuck i just wack off on chat roulette...

Wait until every roastie starts accusing every guy they've met, and people loss their job without proof

>these mental gymnastics

biggest fish when?

>there is something behind it
You're right, stupidity.

These dickheads believe that if they've been accused of something then they must be in the wrong. It's the whole listen & believe thing. For me that is why I feel no pity for them even though I still think they're innocent until proven guilty, because if they're not going to stand up for their innocence why should I?

Like I think Jeremy Piven came out with something like "I didn't do anything wrong but how am I supposed to prove it!?" And that seemed legitimate and I've barely heard him mentioned in the media after it.

>if i accuse them of doing what i'm doing, they'll never know i'm the one doing it

>forcing people
I cannot BELIEVE you. None of these women were "forced" watch Louis C.K. jerk off, women are just too meek and easily intimidated to remember that they don't have to do what a man wants 100% of the time. Making their own decisions or actively contradicting a man in a situation like that is (for some reason) really difficult for them. I'm honestly more sickened by the women who just stood there and watched for no reason than I am by Louis. What the fuck is wrong with these girls?

If you create a society where sex isnt a big deal, men will treat it as such. You want men to take it slow and romantically with used up jaded whores?

he asked, one said no, he said ok

You mean facts?

>stating facts is mental gymnastics
If that's mental gymnastics your brain sounds like it's a fucking bouncy castle

If you're too dense to understand why sexual acts between people where one is in a position of power is morally wrong then I don't know what to tell you.

Post your evidence or stop crying already, cuck

>Wanna see my dick?
>sure
>whips out dick
That's literally consent. He didn't hold them their against their will at any point.

maybe you should come out and say that memes have touched you in a naughty place. you don't have to hide your pain anymore user.

the woman could've said no stop while he was taking off his pants. It's just more cunts hopping onto a bandwagon

>I don't know what to tell you.
Probably because you don't know anything

I hope whatever cunts are accusing Piven go down in a blaze

well one of the girls from the Hotel room in Aspen forgives Louie
Ms. Schachner said that Louis C.K. “did abuse his power.”

“And yes, obviously he has a ‘glitch,’” she continued. “But I do, too. We all do. We’re learning a new language here, and we need to be kind, and we need to be open, and we need to be fair, and we need to listen.”

She concluded by writing: “I do forgive Louis. I forgave him. But most of all, I think it’s time to forgive myself, too.”

I like how she forgives herself too, as she was guilty of looking at a cock.

he got accused of actual rape though.

the chick said he jumped on her, pusher her to the ground and humped her until he came.

louie ck was accused of asking to jerk off in front of women, women agreed, then regretted the decision based on "he's too powerful", 10 years later.

not saying piven did it, just that the crimes accused of are two completely different levels. and in both cases it rings of massive bullshit.

b-but they didn't think he'd actually do it, those poor girls...

Realize that the only reason why Louie is getting shit is because he's ugly and fat. If a hot guy did it they'd laugh it off and probably jerk off to it later.

great counter point, you've proven yourself to be both intelligent and worth talking to

@90211335
Lol here's your you. Don't@me again.

Pretty soon we men won't even be able to hit on women, without our lives being destroyed. And courts aren't even needed anymore to judge our guilt. This is actually horrifying. Welcome to the beginning stages of the fucking Matriarchy. Hope our sons and grandsons enjoy prison.

he wasnt famous or "with power"

and power isnt wrong, it's literally a major thing women find sexy in men, the hability to overpower them (in humor, intelligence, financially, physically, in height etc)

The discussion was over a while ago when you decided to ignore known facts and basic logic when it went against your point of view.

Harvey Weinstein made women choose between sucking his dick or ruining their careers. Louis C.K. made them choose between watching him jack off or walking the fuck away. Everyone was already sort of aware that Louis C.K. did weird shit like that, he was by no means holding anyone's future hostage in these situations.

nah he's a creep. imagine if he was gay and did this to you. he acts fake nice and fake polite and that makes you awkward and fake nice back, so when he does shit like this you feel too awkward to say something and awkwardly laugh or dont respond. he basically took advantage of their shyness/niceness

she also said she tried to push him off but couldn't and a few sentences later said she pushed him off after he came. That right there makes me think bullshit

I think she's forgiving herself for being a hyperbeta bitch and just quietly standing there letting him jerk off in front of her. How are these women so spineless?

>15 yo girl
>Paedophilia
Absolute state of amerifats

>But is there anything that these men could do to absolve themselves? Anything in the world?

Yeah.

They can put a gun in in their mouth.

t. mohammed