>MoS and BvS get critically mauled for being "dark and edgy where's the fun and colour"
>Justice League changes the colour pallet and goes for a more "traditional" story and characters
>Critics are now complaining that it's not "As interesting as BvS"
Will these Mouse cocksuckers ever be happy???
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>studio only makes most of the money, not all of the money
>panics
>"we need to make it more like marvel! That's what the people want!"
>ignore the success of Dark Knight movies
>add quips and color, instead of fixing story, scripting, and editing problems
WB are reactionary morons. Instead of fixing their shit, they're trying to completely change it.
Snyder is a straight, white, Christian male. "critics" work for jews. Put two and two together
>BvS/MoS have some okay ideas buried under horrid execution
>JL = BvS/MoS - okay ideas
The tone was never the problem with those films for critics, it was the hack writing
>hack writing
You just described every capeshit movie; worst being marvel movies that follow 1 template.
>B-b-but Marvel!
>why are superman and batman fighting?
this is interesting/interest, even if the reasons turned out to be intensely stupid.
There is nothing similar in JL, so its just the intense stupidity without an interesting question to answer it.
There's a difference between derivative hack bullshit and pretentious derivative hack bullshit.
You go into a superhero movie expecting hack bullshit, and if it isn't too hacky and/or bullshit,
you won't walk away feeling like your time/money was wasted.
That's literally the critics. You may think it's your DC wojacks, but DC can't be anything unless it's like Marvel, only for those same critics that want to snicker and sneer "lol Marvel already does this"
hes not christian, hes an atheist and a democratic socialist
This. They should have polled if they obtained new demo via non marvel, torrentors, adults ECT. Push for cap marvel to appeal to kids, traditional supes fans then pull him into a world where action has consequences.
>pretentious
>the new meme
>someone on Sup Forums a few weeks ago actually said **Hamlet** was pretentious with it's fucking ye old english language
LOL
>pretentious
>the new meme
A big word for small minds.
He's a Scientist Christian, nigger.
MCU Phase 1 leading up to Avengers
>Two Iron Man films, 1 Hulk Film, 1 Thor film, and 1 Captain America film. Each being used to help put the characters in their respective places and to line up the pieces for the Avengers
>Films managed to not try and bite off more than they could chew. Closest was Iron Man 2, and even then that film got cucked during the production and all the interesting stuff thrown out
DCEU up to Justice League 1
>Two Superman centered films, one of which was a massive clusterfuck with some good ideas, but overall shit execution (mostly because Snyder is more interested in making moments and scenes than linking them in a narrative that makes sense)
>Followed by a movie around a group of villains that in no way contributes to the overall story except to further the whole "how the world reacts in the wake of Superman's death"
>A mediocre movie explaining Diana's origins and the picture in BvS
>No origin movie for Flash, Aquaman, OR Cyborg. Each only got a YouTube clip intro in BvS
>Now we gotta spend some of the hour and a half of JL setting them up and giving them backstory
Jesus, at least the MCU has a plan and each of its films can stand alone while also advancing the overall narrative. The DCEU films, I feel like they just put them in as soon as they are ready with no thought on how well they'd fit in. That and the multiple stand alone films not connected they already greenlit.
DCEU is a fucking mess.
It's almost as if the tone isn't the only factor and the tone, writing, and dialogue is all shit in DC capeshit
>at least the MCU has a plan and each of its films can stand alone while also advancing the overall narrative
this, I hate MCU's "make every first movie an origin story" but it really helps to set up the characters, cramming 3 characters with zero-back story except for them being well-known pre-established comic book characters into a 1 and a half hour movie WITH Batman and Superman is fucking insane.
Show the other matching movie poster, faggot.
Nothing. It was about memeing DC into failure, lets be honest.
Nah we don't need a bunch of shitty half assed origin stories that all follow the same exact plot thread. Hardly any of Marvelshit was actually good, and it ended up culminating into Quipvengers.
DC was all right until they decided to shit the bed with JUSTice. Suicide squad was the only really bad movie, and they decided to go the same route of ruining the new movie.
Marvel did it right financially, but they didn't make good movies, just normieshit.
Tone was literally a complain in 90% of the worst reviews.
They shouldn't have listened to those twelve year olds who claimed BvS was not funny enough and kept on doing what they were doing. There was absolutely no need to make another Avengers.
*cackles*
Agreed.
The DC movies felt unique, even when they lacked polish.
someday you will be successful too dcuck, you just have to wait one or decades.
the main complain about BvS was actually not 'it's not funny enough'.
>b-but e-everyone k-knows o-our g-godlike c-chars a-already !!!!!!!!!
>we are making it for the fans.
Fuck off Snyder, go mourn your fucktoy
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Wrong pic.
Actually it was. "too dark, gritty, not light enough, batman kills people wahhhh"
lol, what a denial. 20 years from now people will be binging marvel movies on DisneyStream™ all the time, with a consistent, un-rebooted universe alwas expanding, while DC will be on its 3rd revival, many of which are already forgotten.
Bro, do you really think the suits would risk even a second attempt at the DCEU if JL actually bombs? And do you honestly think Disney can replace Steve, Tony and Thor (and Loki) well enough, and follow the decade long build up to IW, well enough for the MCU to stay popular that long? Guess we'll have to wait and see. I suspect both are fucked, even if it takes Disney longer for it to become apparant.
I'm just hoping normies save JL and the DCEU by actually liking it. The DCEU is one of the few movie franchises/brands I still fucking go see in the cinema.
>unironically having avatar from Fembusters
jesus fucking christ
That was a reviewer, by the way. For some stupid reasons libtards hate Snyder.
The only two MCU movies I've ever felt any desire to rewatch are Iron Man and The Winter Soldier, moreso Iron Man.
I've rewatched Snyder's films dozens of times and every viewing has rewarded me with more insight and greater appreciation of their attention to detail and the story they are telling.
critics are just attention whoring pretentious windbag people. different people like different things. some windbags like mos and bvs while others hate it. same with justice league.
>Scientist Christian
the broken educational system and foxnews fueled the rise of the alt-right
>all these movies have terrible execution, regardless of tone
>hurr durr conspiracy
You DCucks are almost too much
>le jew meme
farakhan nigger detected
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believing in imaginary genders is just as bad
>torrentors
>let's care about the people who give us exactly 0 money and feel morally justified in doing so
Fucking fool
That's an awfully americacentric view. Noone here in Germany heard of Fox News and our educational system is only slightly shit and yet our party of Trump clones got into parliament. Even worse in France, Austria, Britain, Sweden and the Netherlands.
People have always been xenophobic, nationalist and rejected the notion of altruism in favor of selfish elitism (which is, incidentally, a theme in Batman v Superman) and noone ever adressed it as a problem because it's a natural consequence of a capitalist society.
With Disney's acquisition of Fox, Marvel will move into X-Men territory. Mutant Arc is gonna start after Post-Phase 3. They have got themselves covered for another decade at the very least.
Yet Disney offers up Thor on the altar of farce by placing him in the hands of a director who goes on record revealing he has literally zero clue about the character and saying we shouldn't care about Thor's problems because "he's just a rich kid from space." Thor. Motherfucking Thor.
And "nerd critics" can't stop sucking Disney's cock. That doesn't tell you something *might* be amiss? Really?
The digits don't lie.
Snyder is literal lefty manlet jew, you fucking redditor.
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they're what fueled the alt-right in america.
lack of jobs, fear of losing jobs is why people outside america vote for alt-right candidates. they're not alt-right, they're just voting for alt-right because alt-right is using their fears to get votes. the correct term would be populism (candidates making promises that are popular with the majority of voters). an article actually had "rise of populism" as it's headline a few months back.
in addition, a bbc investigative article stated that there are former hard-core democrats who voted for obama but voted for trump instead of hillary. they would have still voted democrat if bernie was the democrat candidate. their reason is jobs. hillary is viewed as pro-wall-street and would protect the rich executives' interests such as allowing them to bring jobs abroad where it would be more profitable for them. bernie was viewed as pro-working-class. but when it became a choice between trump and hillary, they decided to vote trump because at least trump promises to give them their jobs back while hillary focuses on gender and race which they agree on but won't feed their families.
Your comrades in arms like this one fuel the alt right
> retards actually pretending the marvel films are any better
for fucks sake, its ALL shit and its all the SAME shit.
These films are cartoons for "adults" with arrested development.
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So do we ever learn why Batman is fine with Wonder Woman, The Flash and Aquaman when he had an aitistic meltdown over Superman?
Yes. We do. It's literally the second sequence of the movie right after his origin story.
No, he’s a Christian Ayn Rand-loving Objectivist libertarian.
He’s been trying to adapt The Fountainhead for years
explains why his movies are so shit then. has there ever been a good conservative director besides clint eastwood anyway?
>also explains why his daughter killed herself
>that edge
Mel Gibson, Leni Riefenstahl