Has CGI (good CGI) surpassed hand-drawn animation?
CGI and traditional animation
Joshua Morgan
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Asher Powell
This cinematic is nothing special.
Gavin Bell
CGI animation is not magical computers rendering everything you know.
Bentley Gonzalez
I know, I personally know people in the industry, I'm just saying that this particular cinematic is far from being as impressive as many 2D animations.
How could one surpass the other anyway? They are completely different from each-other.
Ryan Robinson
>I'm just saying that this particular cinematic is far from being as impressive as many 2D animations.
could you go into further detail?
actually curious
Jason Price
He won't.
Christian Brown
They're two completely different artforms with entirely separate skills required so comparing them is stupid.
Lincoln Martin
I wouldn't say that
But Blizzard cinematics are something speacial.
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Brayden Butler
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Camden Reyes
No.
Fuck you.
Thomas Lee
My sweet lord
Josiah Peterson
Why does they need to compete with each other, when they can complete each other?
Nolan Sanders
>Has CGI
In terms of visual? Yes
In the amount of work need to make it look good? I want to say yes but I don't know
In Popularity? No
Mason Sanchez
How much do these CG shorts cost?
Like Blur Studios, how much would a 2-3 minute short from them be?
Charles Hughes
2D, hand-drawn stuff will ALWAYS have more "heart", no matter what. That said, CGI looks so damn good nowadays, I don't complain nearly as much about "the death of hand-drawn" nearly as much as I used to. I still miss it but as least cartoons are gorgeous again, even if they are made on a computer.
Jonathan Nelson
Why are CGI movies with a realistic artstyle not a thing? Shit like that looks amazing
Wyatt Smith
That's some maximum comfy
Camden Murphy
I've still preferred most well done 2D action scenes to most well done 3D action scenes I've seen. I think the two mediums have different strengths, for me at least. It would be nice if both could have prominence in the field of animation.
Zachary Bennett
W--W-WEW LAD
Jason Kelly
Beowulf was a flop so studios have been scared ever since.
James Parker
That Final Fantasy movie too
Hudson Collins
>that wrist flick as he finishes throwing his coat on
it's the little things
Luis Anderson
Because by this time next year it will look like Reboot
CGI outdates itself extremely fast and has no lasting power when does with realism
Juan Mitchell
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why not both?
Camden Baker
>being this retarded
Gavin Bailey
From what I've heard blur charges around a million dollars a minute for their cinematic work.
Noah Thompson
we're reaching a plateau though
Brody Gonzalez
>surpassed
What do you mean? Is there a competition? They're different styles and that's it.
Logan Smith
Polar Express too
Robert Morgan
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Jurassic Park still holds up decades later.
it's about how you use it.
Levi Phillips
>implying
Oliver Anderson
>Dreamworks will never make something like this again
End me
Parker Brown
Whitcher 3 cinematic was better.
Julian Gutierrez
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>Worst expansion gets best cinematic
Fucking why
Sebastian Turner
Legion > Wrath > Cata > BC > Vanilla > WoD > Pandaria
Jayden Jenkins
10 years later on. And that cinematic isnt much better than what they were doing circa WC3.
Brody Johnson
The body acting in the Warcraft short is just as intricate in its movement as that Milt Kahl test. The knight guy putting all his weight on one knee while he lifts himself up is just as subtle as some of the best 2D.
Isaiah Sullivan
>Cata
>not worst or second worst expansion
No
Austin Scott
I think if you were to rank by specific aspects that list would get shifted a bit but yeah that's a decent ranking, though I may change some of those > into = signs
Adam Campbell
>Anything worse than Casuallords of Deadlore
>Cata bad
Dragon Soul is shit but Cata is hardly bad. It's probably right in the middle quality wise
Wyatt Bennett
I know everyone hated MoP because lool Pandas
But MoP fucking rocked
Ethan Mitchell
Cata above Vanilla and BC is just plain wrong
Brandon Sullivan
Gameplay wise MoP is great
Story and tone wise it is absolute cancer
Ian Jenkins
Now I wont be able to stand up for about an hour.
Angel Ramirez
The story was bad, but the horde and alliance were more hostile to eachother than in any other xpac and I really liked that
Justin Lopez
Yet thats a near 10 year old cinematic.
Mason Long
And Christmas Carol, FF 7, Kingsglaive, and Mars Needs Moms.
Dear god, Mars Needs Moms. Probably singlehandedly killed it all by itself.
Christian Perez
>Has CGI (good CGI) surpassed hand-drawn animation?
In profit? Yes.
In exposure? Yes.
In theatrical cinema? Yes.
Aside from that, if you suck, it sucks, if you're good, it's good. The medium doesn't matter, so praise the guys who do it well.
Noah Diaz
>>CGI outdates itself extremely fast
>>next year it will look like Reboot
>He hasn't seen Terminator Salvation, Furious 7, or the Dead Space 3 trailer.
Nah. I mean, I love traditional animation to death, but CGI cinematics are a guilty pleasure for me. Shit gets me pumped up every time:
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Liam Price
Pandaria's cinematic is beautiful
Aiden Morgan
Pandaria > BC > Wrath > Cata > Vanilla > WoD > Legion
Legion is a meme expansion.
Levi Reyes
Pandaria was one of the best looking expansions in term of variety. The only BAD zone was the stupid plains that were home to the raid boss.
Gabriel Sullivan
Why is Blizzard CGI so fucking good?
Tyler Wood
2D and 3D animation have their strengths and weaknesses. I can't honestly compare which is superior since that's a matter of opinion and me taste.
Benjamin Brown
Because they actually care about "quality" and "fun". Passion makes things better.
Robert Hernandez
>Because the cinematics department, unlike the pvp and class design ones, actually care about "quality" and "fun". Passion makes things better.
Fixed that for you. No need to thank me.
Joseph Jackson
>tfw that cinematic gave me a gay crush/boner for an orc
Fuck blizzard for turning me gay.
Brayden Reed
CGI is basically stop motion with fancier models and tools.
it's just a different style.
Luke Diaz
>It's a 2D vs 3D animation fight thread again
Goddamn. Both are good for their respective mediums.
Grayson Torres
>Kneepuncher: The Game: The Cinematic
Ryan Cooper
Taaake ooon meee
Justin Price
The studios that make shit like the Warcraft cinematics specialise entirely in short clips, and each one takes the months for that alone
If they attempted a feature-length film, the quality would have to suffer dramatically
Lucas Hughes
They just need more budget and manpower.
Luis Mitchell
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Kayden Powell
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You tell me.
Jonathan Thomas
For God's sake man, I'm at work
Jeremiah Young
>and each one takes the months for that alone
It was more like almost a year and a half.
It's not even an issue on budget or manpower. It's just not viable. That's just naive thinking.
The companies that usually fund this shit would say no to the amount of budget you'd need to create a FULL HOUR AND A HALF LONG+ feature film. And almost immediately in a few years, it would look dated. Yes, there are very special cases (like Blizzard's cinematics) but take another high-end studio like BLUR...
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It still looks good (except for some of the faces, also another problem) now but you can tell it's going to look dated in a few years. This is also one of their longest animated projects compared to their usually 2-3 minute trailers cinematics.
You are better off doing it live action with CGI touch ups like the actual Warcraft movie. I'm not saying that was good but doing it in that direction is more viable then what you guys are asking for, which is what everyone ALWAYS asks for without knowing how fucking impossible and/or inefficient it really is.
Lucas Morales
Bump
Brayden Williams
I haven't been keeping up with the technology to know how it's coming along, but I'm sure the shortcuts will develop. At some point the scanning {geometry, texture, skeleton, movement} will be flawless, and then projected to fill in the gaps for the personality not explicitly recorded. We'll be recreating dead people.
I can't wait for augmented reality. We might even give up on custom bodies if the augmented reality can accurately replace all senses.
Luke Lopez
>You are better off doing it live action with CGI touch ups like the actual Warcraft movie
The live-action parts ruined the movie. Every human scene was awful
Joshua Diaz
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Logan Williams
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Parker Price
at least post some cel shading to make it fair
japanese cel shading is going to shape the future of animation
Isaac Green
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