>met with reviews of meh to it's pretty bad >still not the worst reviews a DC movie has had >stars some of their biggest characters >preview screenings turned up poor box office >friday had poor box office >saturday box office so far is pretty bad >international box office is DOA >headed to an $80 million weekend >worse than The Emoji Movie >worse than Power Rangers >SOMEHOW WORSE THAN BR2049
saw it, was good don't get why (((people))) thought it was shit
Hunter Perry
The 'reshoots' thing gave too much credence to the meme detractors. It's fashionable to shit on DC/Snyder on Facebook and Reddit to accrue easy upvotes. Had they followed Snyder's vision, full steam ahead, at least it would have shown confidence. Instead, the 'reshoots,' bringing Whedon on to lighten it up, etc, validated the narrative of their struggling, and being in disarray. It was chum to the sickly sharks circling in social media. The film then sort of lost its lustre as it seemed like it was less a creative vision, and more of a test marketed compromise.
Oliver Long
>Marvel fans dont want Synder Grimdark >DC fans dont want Whedon quips >Normies dont care due to boring and uninspired maketting >Bad reviews >Meh word of mouth
Ben being damaged goods didnt help either
Nathan Miller
There simply aren't enough Jews in the world to give this movie the bad reviews and worse box office that it is receiving. Nice try though Ahmed
Christian Butler
The previews look ugly
People don't want to see a movie that looks like shit
Also people were burned by BvS (I heard normies talking about how much it sucked repeatedly)
Asher Morris
It's a capeshit. I don't see how one capeshit can be so hated when it's basically the same as other capeshit.
Film was fine. Like most of these films, it's a solid 5/10.
Hudson Phillips
Most people don't even know or care about reshoots/director, but any moron could tell it would be shit just from the previews
Asher Bennett
The fact that Wonder Woman is the only main cast member that is fully developed in an ensemble movie maybe the cause.
Not to mention, after having to wait for BvS Ultimate cut for the edit to make any sense, most likely going to have to wait for the JL Ultimate cut for this piece of crap to make sense.
Warner wanted a Marvel style reaping, should have gone , each character gets a solo movie, set up the universe, set up the world, set up future tails and leads for future films now
"FUCKING TAKE THIS! TAKE IT! SQUEEL FANBOY! WHAT YOU MEAN YOU DONT KNOW ABOUT HALF THE FAULTS OF FLASH?! SHUT UP! FUCKING FUCK SAKES FANBOYS! SHUT UP SIT DOWN AND EAT IT! EAT IT SQUEEEEEEEEEEEL AHAHAHAAHA KACHING KACHING KEEEEEEEEEEEERCHING BABY!"
Now WB is sat there like;
"So guys... How about we branch out into the multiverse? this universe fucked..."
Austin Wood
>not enough jews in film/media >35% of the industry, 2% of the population
nice try
Lincoln Murphy
Disney finally won. I don't even care if they rig the reviews but they definitely control the narrative which is that DC is edgy garbage and supporting them is bad because they are fascist, which causes critics to get a bit afraid of letting them off the hook, then Disney admittedly makes better movies than DC which causes people to say "wow even Thor 3 is better, I guess going to see DC movies is a waste of money and time" and on top of that Affleck grosses people out now.
Its just going to hurt. The good news is that if it can get to 92 million there's still a 1% chance it could hit a billion like Fate of the Furious did.
Robert Phillips
funny cause I just saw the movie is huge in hueland, I guess only them liked the movie
Anthony Powell
Yes, but plenty of people also didn't like it over here
Tyler Murphy
Try running my post through Arabic > English on Google translate again you fucking idiot
It's being panned at the box office, the DC brand everyone loves is being drowned under the miserable word-of-mouth from BvS, SS, and now the reports that WW being decent won't save this film.
Oliver Foster
>all the course correction to be like Marvel because "they were not being as successful" >it's doing worse than Man of Steel both critically and financially
fucking magnificient
Tyler Hill
>"wow even Thor 3 is better, I guess going to see DC movies is a waste of money and time"
TRUTH
Charles Brooks
>Nite Owl of Murder >Oven dodger >Anorexic Iron Man >Lost power ranger >Underwater Rob Zombie
JUST like my comics
John Thomas
This guy happened.
Ryder Martinez
What the fuck did they do to Barry Allen. He became a flamboyant bitch.
Grant's Barry Allen was miles better.
Hudson Parker
> There's all sorts of scuttlebutt about the way forward for DC post-League: that Whedon's Batgirl is...unthinkable at this point; that they'll now turn the whole thing over to James Wan if Aquaman goes well; that they might just make it a Wonder Woman universe.
> There are wheels within wheels within wheels in every turn of the Warners studio this week and we'll see where it all lands soon enough. Or more likely, not soon enough.
I havent watched the movie but did Whedon save it or ruin it? Getting mixed messages
Isaac Gonzalez
Warner Brothers, if you ever read this, the way forward is relatively simple.
>Put Patty Jenkins in charge of the expanded universe >Get rid of Snyder but hold on to the editing team he used >Get rid of Whedon unless you use him for a standalone Flash movie or something where quips are more appropriate >Make a few lower-budget movies focusing on Batman, the more redeemable SS characters that survived, and maybe even bring Arrow into the mix (stuff that looks cool but doesn't cost $100 million to generate) >When you've restoked interest, make another JL and do something with Braniac. He's a good villain and his technology can be customized to fit whatever plot you want >No more playing whac-a-mole with CGI minions, that was only acceptable in Avengers 1 because it was SHORT, and in Avengers 2 it got tiresome. In JL it looks really boring.
Nolan Martin
Because they made the universe around the standalone Man of Steel which wasn't meant to be a franchise, and the relationship of the two central DC characters doesn't work if one of them was made to emulate the other in the first place (TL note: Man of Steel's gritty Superman emulating Nolan's grimdark Batman)
Isaac Peterson
ruin
Eli Wilson
He put it more hopeful scenes, added dialogue, cut some universe building
But his scenes look like shit visually
So 50/50
Easton Garcia
Definitely ruined
All the decently done shots you'd seen in the trailers building up to now were scrapped by him and replaced with absolutely godawful imitations, with on-set locations switched for green screen, an over-reliance on CGI, and QUIPS QUIPS QUIPS
Joseph Brown
What do you think of About putting Jenkins in charge a la Feige?
Colton Torres
Only a Whedon fan would say he saved it. Snyder's might have been shit but at least it would have been cohesive shit as opposed to runny stool.
Christian Nguyen
>Disney/Pixar's Coco opens next weekend >Thor Ragnarok is still performing well >The Last Jedi comes out December 15 ouch
Daniel Wilson
Woman in charge of something, that's not women-targeted specifically? In Hollywood? Lol no
Nathaniel Rivera
Whedon fan here, and I won't defend him. It looks like he messed up whatever tonal characteristics the movie had beforehand. Doesn't mean it wasn't shitty already, but the quips sound hamfisted
Ryder Morris
Neither. The problems existed from square one. Between Snyder and Warner he was left to cure a gangrenous limb.
Joseph Taylor
>Put Patty Jenkins in charge of the expanded universe
Why do people act like this is a good idea?
Brody Price
>What happened? JOSH WHEDON
Jacob Garcia
Your ideas are bad, the only good one you had was to get rid of Whedon. You would fit right in with all the WB execs though.
Aaron Anderson
This is a good post. BUT, Wonder Woman, to be completely fair, was the most Marvelesque DC movie to date when JL was still in production and was a complete success, so I do get why they tried so hard to steer towards another direction in such little time.
Alexander Bennett
how much of the movie got changed? watching those first trailers everything looks different.
Connor Murphy
Would have got my money if they had nigger Lantern with the deep ass voice
Henry Mitchell
BvS was so atrociously shit that I swore I will never EVER watch a capeshit movie in the cinema ever again. And I fucking loved MoS. Snyder ironically killed capeshit for me.
Joseph Wright
Batman is definitely getting a solo film in the near future. He is still a reliable character.
Logan Richardson
its garbage for idiots and the public can only sublimate so much poison before they become nauseated. you all have a higher capacity for trash than the average human and are thus nonplussed by others repulsion at it
Jayden Brown
Because Wonder Woman was a well made movie, and the others were not.
William Green
>Still this much in denial Okay, enjoy your barren movie wasteland ruled over by Zach's incompetent hand. Maybe if you believe juuuuuust hard enough he'll give you a movie that isn't crap...next year
Wyatt Robinson
So funny to see retarded DCucks hating on Whedon. The only thing that critics praised about JL was the FUN that Whedon brought. If it wasn't for him, this would have been sub 20% on RT.
David Nelson
You know you can always watch Marvel movies, they aren't shite
Elijah Fisher
> said nothing about Zac > talk about Zack What about the rest of your shit ideas?
Adam King
It was an unevenly paced ripoff of The First Avenger with a truly shit tier final act. Compared to BvS and SS, sure. Compared to actual competence? No.
Nathan Gray
But it's not clear whether it will be part of DCEU or not.
Charles Baker
Marvel is dog diarrhea for shit eating manchildren with an iq equating to niggers. I bet you still play with your legos, fucking loser. I would rather rewatch BvS than watch Marvel capeshit.
Jacob Kelly
>Get rid of Snyder
>Mos - genuinely good movie, main issue is with the product placement. >UC is good but there is still way too much content for one movie, WB obviously mandated the need to be a Trinity teamup where Zach just wanted to make a TDKR and Death of Superman mashup >Justice League - Absolute shitshow are warring visions, every single good scene is Snyder but most are cut to shit to meet the sub 2 hour mandate
Really makes you think who are the real ones fucking these movies up here
Austin Hall
Only thing I've seen praised is WW as part of the agenda push.
Whedon's reshoots are notable and get a ton of criticism because they don't fit.
Brandon Sanders
What will be the shitposting potential of this movie?
MoS had a big shitposting staying power - people are still arguing about them years after release - while Suicide Squad or even Age of Ultron have not - nobody cared about them a year later
Will JL have Suicide Squad shitposting legs, or rather more like BvS?
Synder happened, he's a shit director and the result of JL isn't surprising after Man of Murder and BvS
Ryan Jenkins
Notice how there are two other movies you're conveniently omitting from this timeline? Both were terrible and Snyder had 100% creative control over each.
Gavin Anderson
Imagine being this immature about films Kek. Why does DC attract the spergiest?
Jayden Reed
I would guess there is like 30-35% Whedon there but the main issue is editing, NO SURPRISE THERE WB
The 2 second Whedon reshoot clips in the middle scenes are jarring af, actors look physically different and lighting is off Also every scene feels like its been cut down by 50%
I honestly feel like this movie would have been better received if they just stuck with the Snyder vision start to finish then call this his last movie. At least then it would actually work as a movie
Cameron Bennett
>doesn't even deny playing with Legos
Jeremiah Howard
Original Snyder vision was TWO movies
You would have 2 parts of this shit
Colton Flores
Speaking as a Marvel fan, Man of Steel is NOT THAT BAD. In fact the only main criticism of it is from veteran Superman fans. It has a decent plot and raises some interesting conundrums, and the effects are fun to watch. Cavill acts capably. That's why people can discuss it as a legitimate movie.
The ones after it though...
Cooper Richardson
>Lets call the main director of our competing franchise to fix our work WHAT COULD GO WRONG?
Angel Baker
>we have a hulk! XDDDD >PPPFffft ROFLMAO!!!1
Carter Stewart
Legos are awesome dickhead
But I always preferred the un-branded ones. Like houses or castles or shit
Hell I'll go build a lego house right now and you won't fucking stop me
Hunter Adams
>haha you didn't address my autistic ramblings so I win This isn't high school debate, brainlet.
Carter Robinson
MMMMM BOYS
Anthony Robinson
go ahead, be a good soyboi.
Dominic Phillips
GRANNY'S PEACH TEA
Gavin Cook
We finally get mature super hero movies, and Marvelcucks have to ruin everything. *sighs*
Hudson Ramirez
>YEP SOMETHINGS DEFINITELY BLEEDING >MUH BLOOD SUGAR >MY MAN >AWRIGHT >HOPE IS LIKE CAR KEYS
Chase Collins
This will be one of those movie that DC fans will try to forget exists like Green Lantern, Suicide Squad or Batman + Robin At least Snyders last 2 DC movies have redeeming qualities
Julian Ross
Snyder isn't mature.
He is good at pretending to be mature, which impresses the immature people
Cooper Sanders
Your tears sustain me
Zachary Russell
enjoy not having a girlfriend forever
Liam Davis
BOYS MMM!
Kayden Martinez
Good job addressing the issue, really lends credibility to your other points.
Sebastian Anderson
see
Cameron Adams
Ask yourself what didn't happen instead that marvel did. Marvel spent a long time building up to avengers. DC went from SvB - WW - JL
Nolan Gutierrez
WOW, YOU HAVE QUITE A GRIP!
YOU DO *NOT* WANT TO GET INTO A GAY BUTTFUCK WITH THIS GUY
You don't have any "points". You were muttering something about Zac and Zack, as if I misspelled Snyder's first name, and I wasn't sure what I did to get your tard attention so I gave you a link to play with until your fit calmed down
James Peterson
i was gonna say superhero fatigue, but thor 3 has made $670million in 3 weeks
Juan Martinez
I don't think the facebook people knew anything about Zack Snyder and Joss Whedon. They just know the superheros and actors.
Michael Powell
This is how a mature person reacts on the internet.
David Smith
t. neckbeard neo-nazi incel nitwit
Landon Anderson
Does the > it's for the fans, not for the critics! still work?
Grayson Gray
not when even the DCEU hate this
then it's made for pajeets, hues and meheecans
Adrian Parker
Is coco the Mexican one? I saw that on a bootleg a week ago though... Or is it something else? Either way the guy you think is his grandfather isn't. Screencap.
Christopher Gonzalez
Literally 0 (zero) marketing Shitty trailer, it gives you no idea what the movie is about except muh explosions and shitty CG No appeal to anyone since half the cast hasn't been set up yet, and only the US liked Wonder Woman so she has no pull anywhere else in the world.
Ian Lee
>she's with you ? >I thought she's with you ? >LMAOXD