How did they fuck this up?

How did they fuck this up?

HEY GUIYZ
LETS TONE IT DOWN, ALRIGHT?

I'm around ep 8. and is honestly pretty comfy. I would have liked Frank vs Gangsters and criminals but the season is basically "punisher vs Black ops" which is more of a challenge I think.

13 episodes of punishing would have been obviously miles better tho. But thank america's weekly mass shooting for not having that.

That was just so fucking bad
Did netflix try at all?
Even a bit?

...

>basically "punisher vs Black ops" which is more of a challenge I think.
I think you mean more killable white males vs ethnic gangsters

>Did netflix try at all?
obviously did a LOT of work

Create series for Superman
> all fans of Superman excited - its finally going to happen

Superman series delivered
> superman not an alien, doesn't fly
> superman is a paraplegic that works for Pro Publica
> alter ego not named Clark Kent - named Jamie Burgerstein
> love interest Lois Lane is "Larry Lane"
> Lex Luthor is a middle manager for a factory exploiting wage laborers, not genius tycoon egomaniac


fans are "what the fuck is this shit?"

>13 episodes of punishing would have been obviously miles better tho. But thank america's weekly mass shooting for not having that.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Lucas and NRA guy arc was only put in there because they knew there was gonna be some real life Lucas using the show as an excuse to mow people down, and they wanted to get ahead of it.

No way we're getting classic, Garth Ennis-style slaughter with the same shit happening irl once a fucking week.

say hello to your nu-Frankie Castlestein

It's retarded. Punisher isn't a guy who kills black ops, he kills organized crime.

The scenes with him in the military were retarded as shit also. Make him seem like a raging retard. No way in fuck Frank Castle would punch his superior officer for sending him on a mission he didn't agree with. He'd suck it up, because that's what a good soldier does. Your fucking opinions don't matter: You're a token to be used. Soldiers understand that. Frank now doesn't? So they made him a shit soldier. So much for that part of his character.

Though they weren't as retarded as it was to make the people who killed his family corrupt government rather than organized crime. Now they've completely changed his motivation; he no longer cleans up organized crime; now he cleans up government corruption. These are wildly different characters.

Never mind all the stupid shit about how traumatizing war is or whatever. That isn't what the fucking punisher is about man. He isn't in touch with his emotions. He doesn't give a shit what you think. He just fucking kills people. That's all he does. You can't beg him, you can't argue with him, you can't tempt him with sex; all you can do is hope to kill him before he kills you. And all he does is he shoots you. In front of your family. Then he shoots them too. Or he punches you through a highrise window. Or he fukken feeds you to a polarbear; whatever works. He's pure, weapons-grade violenceporn.

tl;dr
>NOT MUH PUNISHER

>Make him seem like a raging retard

>Brainlet who cannot grasp how Black Ops is a manner of organized crime.

>he cleans up government corruption

quick, name a board more contrarian than Sup Forums

>It's retarded

>>brainlet who cannot tell the difference between the mafia and the CIA
I'm sure your college professor didn't distinguish between them either.

>quick, name a board more contrarian than Sup Forums
your mom's twat

The punisher kills criminals no matter who they are.

Sup Forums

God I want her to edge me with her hand for 3 hours, and kiss my frenulum right when i'm about to go over the edge to finish me off.

modern politics. Meaning... leftist trash... meaning... mind control

This. And in Daredevil his villain was the Irish mob? What year is it? Punisher will never shoot a poc, just mobsters and black ops (whites). It's shite.

Im on episode 9, and the show seems to be about the Punisher being a replacement dad for Micro's family, its like a edgy full house...

I like it a lot so far. It's just a bit silly and unrealistic in a lot of ways. I feel like I'm watching a plot from a movie or TV show from the early-90s back when the Irish and Italians were scary instead of fat rat people like they are now.

>group that smuggles heroin out of aghanistan into the states
>not organized crime

okay?

In regards to Karen: I've only seen JJ and DD. What happened between Karen and Matt after he revealed that he was DD to her? I know DD and Elektra "died" at the climax of Defenders but did Karen have any further feelings for Matt? Is she just a whore that wants that Castle dick?

Frank Castle was borne as a vigilante taking out rampant crime (ala Bernie Goetz, Dirty Harry, Death Wish, etc)

Who commits the majority of rampant crime?
> checks stats
OH SHIT.....REWRITE

They didn't

>Punisher isn't a guy who kills black ops, he kills organized crime.
In this instance they're the same thing.

Translation: he no longer cleans up organized crime = he doesn't kill enough black and brown people

It's kinda delved in (though not a lot) in The Defenders. She and Matt are basically on a break but still have feelings for each other.

Your latter half is purile and juvenile. Punisher never shoots a family. He's not a "cool" hitman, he's a tortured anti-hero who cleans up the streets, and makes sure a kid isn't sold poison, that desperate men aren't hooked by loan sharks, that dirty cops don't get away with their misdeeds. What the fuck Punisher do you know?

That's a very good racist interpretation of you.

A less insane interpretation might be: He now kills soldiers instead of criminals.
>but I have defined these soldiers as criminals! gotcha now faggot!
if you're really this stupid then I'm thankful that I can get you out of my face by just clicking away. And I truly pity the poor assholes who have to endure your presence IRL, absent this luxury.

You're forgetting the family who made CP.

Frank's inner monologue is that he's going to come back and kill at least one of the boys in a few years if he is still alive. He doesn't give a fuck that what their parents did to them (the same ones he just killed) made them repeat the cycle. It's the same thing, just delayed.

The rest of the mafia family you retard. If you actually read the comic your brain would've made that connection for you, without anyone needing to clarify.

Gotcha. Thanks user.

If you are the guy who posted MAX, he did both in MAX. Repeatedly. Do you remember how that Delta squadron went after him because Frank left their buddy to freeze to death in Russia?

there's at least a couple storylines in the comic where he's specifically targeting men like rawlins, who used their position in the military for illegal profiting

So much of the show's minor details are just copied from MAX that they must have read it before writing the story, but refused to just fucking make the show into MAX for whatever dumbass reason.

Probably because Punisher MAX is mostly 2edgy4u tryhard bullshit, and no one but the lowest common denominator of brainlet wants to see that

>he'd suck it up, because that's what a good soldier does
Confirmed for never being in the military. Servicemen are absolutely not tools, they have their own opinions, ideologies, free will, etc. You greasy fat civvies just think we are.

>they have their own opinions, ideologies, free will, etc.
none of which matter the moment they're given an order by someone a rank higher than them.

>they called curtis a marine
REEEE
Do they not have Wikipedia?

He smells like shit, doesn't he? It's wafting through the screen; either that my asshole, but who can tell the difference?

>i want high-tech gadgets and rubber bullets and fucking battle van in my Punisher show

They fucked it up huge by not having it Frank vs Gangters. Instead he is killing army men who are just doing theirs jobs and the show wastes so much time on that brown bitch and that Sup Forums kid

>Sup Forums kid
Kek

You can disobey unlawful orders. If a superior commanding officer tells me to fire on school children I can tell butter bars to fuck off.
Frank killed a general in Nam because he was going to shut down Firebase Valley Forge. Chain of command means dick to Frank.

>given an order
>refuses
>charged with insubordination

Nigger, you don't refuse orders as a soldier. The entire premise of soldiers and their hierarchy is that soldiers MUST obey orders because they work as a unit- and one faulty gear in that machine causes HUGE issues that can result in men dying.

Go LARP as a servicemen somewhere else, because you don't know jack fucking shit. You don't get deployed fully knowing that refusing an order will result in you being absolutely crushed.

>Corpsman performs surgery on Frank
>doesn't just give him Motrin and tell him yo change his socks and drink water
>doesn't even give him a silver bullet

>hey devil open fire on these civilians or do some other shady shit Like steal or assault
>uh no sir that's against the UCMJ
>whoa hey that's an article 92 for you warrior.
It doesn't work like that son.

LAWFUL orders, dumbass. It's entirely in your power to disobey if orders from a superior directly contradicts the law, because the UCMJ assumes chain of responsibility.

Is this season a sour writers power fantasy? If that's the case, I'll pass tbqh.

>sour writers power fantasy
wat

You know, the type of guy who unironically says Drumpf.

i actually liked it. i broke it up into 2 days of watching. i did 7 episodes yesterday and the rest today. i would watch 3 and take a break and do stuff around the house. so i had time to think about it and digest what i saw.

i was into it. mostly i thought it was a great way to finish the questions left over from DD, there was obviously stuff not all done with respect to the murder of his family and some secret top boss shit. which completely got solved this season. if you're looking at it big picture and not i want to blow my load in one sitting then this season makes the most sense. S2 can now be more punisher-esc. This needed to be what it was to finish his origin and explain what his world is. since people can technically not have seen DD and still enjoy this.

there was enough action sprinkled around every episode. even though some characters where annoying like the retard bomb kid. it was satisfying tense conclusion of frank getting fucked up trying to stop him.
no one has mentioned the music/soundtrack, that shit was awesome. it had interesting song choices that fit the mood well.

He forgot an apostrophe.

no it's not

it brings up some topics of gun control, but mostly it plays both sides, mocks both sides and continues the story. it's a non issue.

I forgot how to use apostrophes years ago.

Holy shit you're a fucking fag

just adding i just saw the final episode and everything tied up well. i'm excited for jigsaw. i thought early on
>this guy is super vain, it would be funny if he got his face fucked up like jigsaw.

but i kept thinking no he's not a mobster, then when he was revealed to be bad i saw like oh shit jigsaw as his ex military best friend....okay, sure. they kept almost scratching his face and i figured they're just going to give him some pussy ass facial scar. then they brutally caved his face in and carved it with glass. i was like fuck, that was well done.

i thought it was going to end with him escaping custody and being on the run again, the pardon was weird.
but i'm glad microchip got a happy ending, he's much more likable than previous micro's in the past.

Watching it right now, there hasn't been a single gunshot in two episodes. There is too much attention payed to side characters. Too much sjw crap. They miss the crux of the character.

Out of all 6 seasons of Marvel Netflix shows there have been maybe,
10 good episodes

he kills two bikers in the opening(gun fire by all 3 people) and a cartel member right after (punisher snipers him across the us/mex border)

then he gets into it with those construction workers and the mob people.

then right after that he has war time memories.

are you somehow watching a censored version?

>Story about an antihero
>They make him a hero

>much more likable than previous micro's in the past.
How so?

i wanted him to have a happy ending with his family.

other micro's like in war zone and in comics. he's just kind of there. i never feel for the character, i like that punisher has him from time to time, as a tech support. but if he's not around i don't care.

It feels like I'm watching Cucked by Castle, a show about how an ex-Marine wines and dines a tech geek's wife while he watches on a live webcam feed.

I want to watch people get killed in gruesome ways by the Punisher, not watch the chick from Daredevil go on a talk show about gun control or listen in on a group therapy talking about veterans issues. This is like an episode of fucking Law & Order, the evil pro second amendment guy talks about the Jews and triggers a soldier with PTSD into making bombs and rambling about the Constitution and Liberals. And stuffed in between some nerdy guy sends a big strong man to take care of his wife while he secretly watches.

>It feels like I'm watching Cucked by Castle, a show about how an ex-Marine wines and dines a tech geek's wife while he watches on a live webcam feed.
PUNISHED.com

at least half of this season of punisher was good.

DD s1 another solid half and season 2 had punisher and all those episodes where awesome.

luke cage was another solid half season

and although jesica jones wasn't my favorite and it was a bit slow, you can't really take stuff away because it makes sense all together.

iron fist was slow torture.

defenders only had a few good ep.

maybe i'm just more understanding because i don't expect every episode of 13 or so to be ground breaking action packed constant erection provoking killing. i don't mind a slow down to shift focus to another character. sometimes just talking and getting to know characters is okay. as long as it's entertaining.

when it's done like iron fist i can't stand slow shows, but punisher i didn't mind it taking it easy.

soyboys

shitty adaption of frank caste. they made him too emotional, didn't focus anything on one of his character defining traits, not killing innocents. never even brought it up once. also manlet and too many shitty flashbacks with his uggo wife. we get it, he's suffering. shitty plotline. not enough actual punishing

he didn't kill any innocents, well except that one cop but he didn't know.

he actually constantly got fucked up trying not to kill innocent cops and shit.

Done 4 episodes so far. Is the entire season like this? Any reason to continue watching? I'm watching something, but it's not the Punisher.

It's Punisher: Non-toxic Masculinity edition

This. A good soldier follows orders, a great one knows when to question them, if he knows it'll get his bros killed.

>Implying the modern day US government is not a criminal organisation.

Shouldn't have caste Shane

They didn't, the show is great so far. It's almost as good as DD season 1 and I'd put it above Jessica Jones.
In b4 "muh whypipo"

It seems user here has a thing for hipster faggots.

Wow hispanics aren't as bad as I thought they were.

What time is this suppose to take place? Karen was threaten so wouldn't Fogy be at her side?

Like all marvel shows it should be a 2 hour movie

Are you being serious? What fuckimg drugs are these writers n?

That's probably the American way of treat their soldiers. In Germany the first think you learn in the Bundeswehr are your rights as a Soldier and that you can disagree with orders if they are against the Geneva convention or human rights in general.

>one of the most critically acclaimed comic arcs in history of the medium is somehow tryhard bullshit
wew lad