>There was no good reason we could imagine to put Danny Rand in a costume. Because Danny Rand is still discovering who he is as a hero and where he is going to be, so he’s not yet ready to put on a mask or a costume
>At the same time he is someone who is rather well known as a billionaire, so he can’t necessarily go out in public and do the things he does without being recognised. It does become an issue for the character
>We’re trying to keep things extremely grounded and real and tell our stories through characters. So the mystical aspect is something we like to hint at, the idea that there is something bigger and larger out there, but we don’t delve into it all that deeply
Translation: we are embarrassed of our source material
Nolan Gray
Cant Wait for the comic to follow suit. RIP
Juan Thompson
I expected as much, particularly with the "hinting" at mysticism.
Oliver Perry
This.
Iron Fist is also really crap if you're ashamed like this. I mean come on, right? >We’re trying to keep things extremely grounded and real and tell our stories through characters. So the mystical aspect is something we like to hint at, the idea that there is something bigger and larger out there, but we don’t delve into it all that deeply It's a guy who mastered magic kung fu in a mystic alien city by punching a dragon in the heart.
Fuck this shit.
Eli Watson
>costume it was a traditional attire fucking retards
Nicholas Powell
>...he can’t necessarily go out in public and do the things he does without being recognized.
Which is the point of a mask?
Brandon Perry
>So the mystical aspect is something we like to hint at, the idea that there is something bigger and larger out there, but we don’t delve into it all that deeply
Why even watch?
William Long
At least Jones himself confirmed the inclusion of Shou-Lao
Isaiah Walker
Why do people life sucking out all the fun of comic book characters and act like it somehow makes it profound and intellectual. Blech yet another Netflix show to not watch. The mystical aspect is exactly what they should be delving into.
Alexander White
It's probably just like a statue he punches to break as a test of his glowing fist I guess.
Brayden Perry
especialy since dr strange was so successful
Carter Cooper
I hear in this season they leave the hallway.
Jose Brown
>We wanted to keep things extremely grounded so we decided to make Shou-Lao a man with dragon tattoos
TBF Dr. Strange did mostly make magic into some kind of martial art
Michael Ross
>budget as low as humanly possible Ah, the Chi Po discipline!
Hudson Russell
yea i agree but they did shit like the multi-verse and interdimensional travel look cool
Charles Stewart
Probably because trying to stick a grown man in green and yellow spandex and a do rag would look ridiculous to most people, the people the show is trying to attract, because there aren't enough fans to actually bother making a show about these characters.
Thats why we always get these semi-armored up suits or costumes that are barely costumes.
Hunter Jenkins
Yeah, no shit. A lot of us called this the moment they started talking about it. Iron fist doesn't fit in the world they created, so they were going to change a lot of shit to make it fit. Strange was fucking boring outside of the 4 minutes trippy scene in the beginning. If we're lucky. There's definitely not going to be an actual dragon.
Jace Ward
They did yeah. Not necessarily arguing with your point, just also making the point that they didn't go wild with the most basic stuff. I agree all the dimensional travel was nicely done.
John Phillips
I feel like nothing an Iron Fist show could do would be more ridiculous than
1) Agents of SHIELD 2) Anything that's already been done in wuxia films
Why use this hero if you're not interested in the spectacle of it?
Camden Diaz
>grounded and real >wont delve into mystical aspect that much >in a goddamn Iron Fist show
Why
Eli Roberts
BOOO. Danny Rand wears a mask not to hide his identity, but because K'un-Lun has masks on just about everybody important.
Charles Cruz
If your brain is too dumb to experience suspension of disbelief why are you watching superheroes at all? Just go watch some pleb show like Lawn and Order.
Caleb Hill
>Disney is ashamed they are making money off comics >more news at 11
Ryan Baker
for me most of his costumes looks confy enougth than a real martial artist coud use them
Landon Morgan
What are you talking about? Who is this Lei-Kung the Thunderer fellow ;^)?
Aaron Howard
I chuckled.
Nathan Long
>no good reason we could imagine to put Danny Rand in a costume >so he can’t necessarily go out in public and do the things he does without being recognised. >no good reason for a costume LMAO. This guy is retarded.
Elijah Ortiz
Translation: "We don't really have the budget to do all those special effects, so he's just gonna' be glowy Batman.
Noah Hernandez
Because Marvel wants to push more characters to further draw in more people, without actually making something that is for the people that like this sort of thing.
Hey, I want accurate costumes and all the goofy shit comics do. I'm just saying that they want the, for lack of a better word, "normie" audience. The ones who have no idea who anyone is outside of maybe Batman and Spiderman. The completely clueless shits who, upon seeing Iron Fist, would dismiss it as "kiddie power ranger shit with some fag in a green onesie".
Jace Cooper
Shut the fuck up, retard tripfag.
Levi Brooks
>Scott Buck did something retarded Wow. Feel free to read this post in Michael C. Hall's unnecessary exposition monotone
Oliver Collins
Batman actually had a costume. This will just be vigilante homeless guy punching stuff and making it break, like luke cage and jessica jones and daredevil before it.
Connor Bennett
>push more characters to further draw in more people, without actually making something that is for the people that like this sort of thing The results:
Jeremiah Stewart
I liked the first season of Arrow, but I have no desire to watch it again.
Hunter Scott
If they can accept Spider-man's costume whose just about the only hero to ever have his costume accurately represented why can't they accept Iron Fists? In what way is it any sillier then Spider-mans?
Kevin Walker
It would be absurdly easy to redesign the costume in a way that works very well in live action. Why would you think it needs to be spandex in the first place here?
Adrian Ramirez
People aren't rational, is the thing. They accept Spiderman because Spiderman is well known-And their friends probably like it too, which in turn makes it acceptable for them to like it. Same way they accept Batman, and Superman.
Iron Fist isn't well known outside of the comic reading community.
Cooper Ross
As well they should be. Just because you have to dress your story and directing in some infantile IP in order to get networks to buy it and gullible herd animals in the seats doesn't mean you have to wear the dunce cap they supplied.
Nicholas Taylor
Eh, disappointing to be honest. I'm sure it won't affect my enjoyment whilst watching this, but then it's not really 'Iron Fist' anymore.
Xavier Lee
>enjoyment Optimistic, are we?
Dylan Russell
Nothing has yet proven to me this'll be bad.
Owen Turner
Why didn't they just use his ultimate costume?
Also DD basically had his mask in S1 without the eyeholes. I don't see the big deal.
Henry Young
>no costume >grounded and real
What's even the point
Luke Mitchell
It stopped being Iron Fist when they removed the revenge motive from his origin
Michael Flores
Not even the fact that the last time its showrunner was put in charge of a show, that show became a joke among pretty much everyone? I don't fucking trust that guy, he's an idiot.
Brandon Brown
i liked the track suit in this run
Jack Adams
>>There was no good reason we could imagine to put Danny Rand in a costume. >>At the same time he is someone who is rather well known as a billionaire, so he can’t necessarily go out in public and do the things he does without being recognised. It does become an issue for the character.
Are they literally stupid????
Nicholas Kelly
Slav Fist
Carson Myers
Some people like to reserve judgment until they've actually had a chance to experience the product.
Gabriel Sanchez
Really? They couldn't just put him in a green gi with a yellow sash and mask? There's no fucking excuse.
Anthony Perry
>September 2017 >EW.COM EXCLUSIVE: IRON FIST COSTUME FIRST LOOK, NEW DAREDEVIL AND SIGOURNEY WEAVER CONFIRMED AS FIN FANG FOOM
Gabriel Hall
>SIGOURNEY WEAVER CONFIRMED AS FIN FANG FOOM
Thomas King
>SIGOURNEY WEAVER CONFIRMED AS FIN FANG FOOM i would be extremely happy whit this
Gavin Gomez
Alright, fair enough.
Wyatt Barnes
I feel like she's one of the few big name actors who will do projects just for fun.
Jose Collins
Defenders is the "last" of the original announcements. Why not just go fucking nuts?
Lucas Lee
>SIGOURNEY WEAVER CONFIRMED AS FIN FANG FOOM
Camden Parker
In the last act, she'll rip off her shirt and there will be a tattoo of Foom and she'll yell out "I am the Fin Fang Foom!"
James Sanchez
>There was no good reason we could imagine to put Danny Rand in a costume. >he can’t necessarily go out in public and do the things he does without being recognised. What I'm getting from this is that he'll get a costume/mask after he starts actually doing hero shit and acclimates to New York again, no idea why they'd directly contradict themselves otherwise.
Jace Edwards
>no good reason to put him in a mask and costume >proceeds to give a very good reason as to why he should wear a mask and costume Kinda getting mixed signals here.
Logan Perez
Fucking hell. I was looking forward to this since Daredevil season 1. So damn disappointing. Just like everything Marvel produces these days.
Liam Lewis
>Grim and Gritty Fin Fang Foom is a call for help as she saunters around drunk in a pair of purple shorts, drinking grain alcohol and spitting it at candles >It takes all four Defenders combined to fight her >Beats her only once they remember Jessica can drink like a fish >Luke and Danny sit back to watch a drunken catfight; Matt looks off a rooftop waiting for a sign that Karen or Elektra or whoever is not-dead/dead/a Hand Ninja/whatever.
Still can't wait for whenever Frank gets announced this year.
Jason Lee
Man I'm tired of Netflix Marvel and their obsession with grounding everything and being ashamed of the superhero aspect.
That stuff works for Punisher and Jessica Jones, but not for Iron Fist.
Ian Rivera
>There was no good reason we could imagine to put Danny Rand in a costume How about the fact it's the ceremonial costume of Iron Fist, the most prestigious warrior in K'un-Lun?
Julian Hughes
a man in a deep-V spandex suit with a yellow sash walks up to you in flats.
how long does it take for you to stop laughing or walk away avoiding how much of his chest you can see?
Cameron Torres
>Luke Cage successfully adapts Diamondback's jumpsuit, then gives him a goofy looking helmet on top of that >Iron Fist is too afraid to put a man in a mask >the same kind of mask that Daredevil wore for the entirety of season 1
Brody Jenkins
Marvel Netflix takes stuff too seriously and Marvel Studios doesn't take stuff seriously enough. Luckily, we've got Inhumans on the way to save us with the perfect middle-ground.
Eli Myers
Have you tried drinking this product yet? I heard it's delicious, but you never know til you try it right?
Wyatt Russell
How long do you keep laughing after he crushes your rib cage with a single punch?
Samuel Morales
Because people feel that exact same way when it comes to batman, or spiderman, or captain america, or...
Liam Jackson
I don't know if you've noticed this, but live action adaptions of superhero characters often redesign the heroes costume in ways that fit the medium.
Justin Johnson
You're funny, user.
Brody Jenkins
Why would I laugh at him? In the real world, I'd know he's dressed as Iron Fist. In the world that appears in the MCU, I would assume he's a superhero because superheroes exist there.
Charles Thomas
And you're adorable. After all, a guy dressed up in an american flag motif would NEVER work in todays oh wait a minute...
James Smith
exactly long enough to muster one last "Ha" before succumbing to my wounds.
Matthew Russell
Please, no one watch this so they don't do this shit again.
Isaiah Smith
>Inhumans on the way
Still can't believe they're wasting time with that shit. Just accept it Marvel, no one will ever be interested in these 3rd stringer Not-Mutants, and you're never getting X-Men back from Fox no matter how much you try to devalue them.
Nathan Garcia
I hope you realize that this attitude is why I, Robot was a steaming pile of shit. You shouldn't just slap an IP's name on something barely, if at all, related and then act like people are being fags when they're upset you lied to them.
Charles Campbell
We should go out.
Adrian Baker
>billionaire martial arts master
hmmmmmmMMMMMMMM
really judo chops my wooden boards
Samuel Myers
Yeah, that's going to happen.
Tyler Richardson
>is still discovering who he is as a hero and where he is going to be
Oh, so it's another badly paced, long and boring origin story. Thanks for the heads up, Marvel, won't watch it.
Brody Rodriguez
because strange things can be funny?
Also, in MCU World, every hero aside from the New Yorkers is larger-than-life. Ghost Rider is a rumor and most of it's been explained away as Ancient Aliens.
Caleb Flores
>falling for such obvious bait
Jace Smith
>reversed colours AGH MY EYES
Jordan Walker
It's like they thought keeping him white would mean no one would care if they changed everything else.
Owen Williams
>Because Danny Rand is still discovering who he is as a hero and where he is going to be, so he’s not yet ready to put on a mask or a costume
You know, I can buy this. If they're adapting Immortal Iron Fist/Immortal Weapons (and I really, sincerely hope that is the case), then we have to admit that the whole "costume" thing never really worked, anyway.
I have a theory that down the line, though, they'll find a way to work the costume as part of the theatricality and ceremony that comes with being K'un-Lun's champion- battle dressing for the tournament in the Seven Capital Cities of Heaven, a lot of pageantry that ties into the history of the Iron Fist and K'un-Lun herself, basically.
When you consider that, strictly speaking, Danny didn't actually learn his own history and truly "buy into" the venerable history of the Iron Fist's legacy until well after he'd returned to New York and done his whole "Heroes for Hire/Defenders" thing, it makes sense that he wouldn't bother with any of the trappings yet.
That's if they bother to trying writing the costume in at all, anyway. Personally, I could live without it. Like I said, I don't think it ever really worked in modern Iron Fist without some serious mental gymnastics.
Aiden Ortiz
>We’re trying to keep things extremely grounded and real It's literally ok when Marvel does it.
Jason Green
>Probably because trying to stick a grown man in green and yellow spandex and a do rag would look ridiculous to most people, the people the show is trying to attract, because there aren't enough fans to actually bother making a show about these characters. Then make a show about something else. If you aren't going to respect that source material, then why are you even bothering to adapt it into a show?
Noah Edwards
If these shows premises where pitched without the attached superhero names noone would care or thing they be good shows. Slap the superhero names over characters and suddenly its brilliant storytelling, expect its not, its using beloved character to sell a boring grounded depressing show. No one started reading superheroes because they wanted a realistic interpretation of crime fighting.
Camden Morris
What the fuck are you even talking about? Danny was raised in K'un-Lun and dressed in their fashions for ten whole years. Their culture was his culture. When he became the Iron Fist, he donned its ceremonial attire.
The only reason he didn't learn his own history is because the guy before him stole the book and ran away.
Michael Jones
There's a difference between dressing in traditional K'un-Lun clothing (like the outfit in the OP, for example) and the ridiculous pageantry of the Iron Fist costume.
The costume's part of the history he doesn't know or even have access to. That could be a reason why it's not included, and a reason why it's introduced later.
Aaron Ward
this is a thread of people saying it's not ok though
Jason Parker
How the fuck is he going to get the power of the Iron Fist and not wear the outfit of the Iron Fist.
He's not just Daredevil who decided to start doing it one day. The costume comes with the power.
It's like being given a Green Lantern ring and saying na just my white T and jeans I'm not ready for the outfit.
Ryan Collins
>If you aren't going to respect that source material, then why are you even bothering to adapt it into a show?
Tell that to pretty much every single show, book, and movie adaption of a comic book.
Adam James
Tbf you could do that as a GL if you put a logo on the front, don't need a full costume. Arisia has her nonstandard dress.
Charles Gonzalez
The Iron Fist isn't a fucking secret, you dope. Everyone has heard of them. They hold contests to decide which of their warriors will be chosen to face Shou Lao in battle. Not having the biography of all the previous holders of the title doesn't make him an ignorant foreigner who came for the power and peaced out.
Josiah Phillips
But I do that all the time
Eli Hall
Guy does it too but as a GL it's turning your own personal preference into a GL uniform.
Iron Fists do the same Which is why it makes no logical sense for Danny to not wear anything related to the legacy of the Iron Fiat whatsoever.