The exact moment the DCEU failed

The exact moment the DCEU failed

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No, Man of Steel is almost flawless. Maybe the Stop Invincible son scene could have been handled better. But the DCEU failed somewhere in the middle of BvS.

Hey my gif

Why does he look like a child making shit up on the spot?

Well...

>stop invincible son

wait... does Sup Forums honestly have an issue with that scene because kevin costner was afraid clark would get hurt?

Am I being rused?

lol what a dork

Sup Forums overall does, but I get this scene. Maybe it was Sup Forums who ruined it for me.

He looks like a retard. How did he get to make movies?

Even correctly understood it's a retarded scene. He'd rather die than possibly have some people find out his adopted son has superpowers?

wait... do you honestly not have an issue with that scene where superman dad die easily in front of witness by a fucking tornado where superman could have saved him at the risk of his secret instead of him having a heart attack showing the true limit of superman infinite powers, death of the people around him, something he could never fight. It's natural, clean, and that way we dont have to justify why didnt clark sacrificed his secret to save his dad, since his superman in the making. But no accept the big tornado up you daddy ass, it's more "symbolic"

>because kevin costner was afraid clark would get hurt?
are you retarded?

Yeah, the heart attack is way better.
>all these things I can do, all these powers, and I couldn't even save him.

I want to see Henry Cavill's face during this moment.
Probably looked totally defeated and mesmerized by this man's retardation.

>*snaps your cinematic universe*

>Henry Cavill admits Zack Snyder’s style hasn’t worked: ‘Wonder Woman’ is a “step in the right direction”
batman-news.com/2017/10/31/henry-cavill-admits-zack-snyders-style-hasnt-worked/

Cavill doesn't give a fuck and I remember reading somewhere that Michael Shannon hasn't seen the movie yet.

I always thought his dad getting impaled/crushed by debris from the tornado would work. Supes has the strength and speed to remove the, let's say watertower and bring dad to a hospital, but his dad sees the extent of his own injuries an realizes it's a futile effort. Cue him grabbing the frantic Clark's arm and saying whatever variant of "it's okay, son..." you want.

IF YOU LOVE THESE STORIES SO MUCH, YOU CAN MOURN FOR THEM

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INVINCIBLE SON YOU SHOULD LET BUSLOADS OF KIDS DIE

BUT MY DOG, I MUST DIE FOR IT

>Michael Shannon hasn't seen the movie yet.
Damn.

Kek.

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the neck snap was sick though

This is also the scene where discrepancies between Nolan and Snyder became heated arguments.

Turns out Snyder only makes good movies (Man of Steel) with Nolan's supervision. Remove Nolan from the equation and you get utter trash (BvS)

>*PSSSSHT *
lol Snyder making sounds like a 10 year old

It was a pointless death , cause people allready knew Clark had super powers because he saved that bus full of kids, but now he cant save his dad in front of a few people?

also he fell assleep watching BvS

> Shannon said. "Zack [Snyder] is gonna kill me for this — he’s gonna kill me. I watched it once and I fell asleep."
hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/michael-shannon-says-he-fell-asleep-watching-batman-v-superman-947796

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hahahaha

it's a pointless death cuz he fucking kills himself to save a dog that is going to die in a couple years tops anyway. stupid fucking shit scene

I thought it would be better if Clark actually tried saving him, but get caught in the tornado as well.
He wouldn't be able to do anything because he can't fly, so he goes frantic just trying to hold on, but his Dad knows he'll die anyway so he says goodbye before the tornado becomes too strong for Clark to hold him.

Add DCEU logo, you retards.

t. ben garrison

BRUTAL
SAVAGE
ABSOLUTELY TAKEN DOWN

We don't need it spelled out dude

youtube.com/watch?v=e3uOMCfopR8

No
That scene and the "you should have let your classmates drown" scene
Headcanon adopted, thanks

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Harsh but true

Excuse me while I crucify your truck with electrical poles, COMPLETELY SILENTLY, because you put some beer on me.

are capeshitters actually mad that superman killed the bad guy? that's the most obviously correct thing about the movie

That guy deserved it, desu. Nobody ever taught him manners. Somebody had to.

tell that to joss' snapped neck!

The issue is the fact clark shoved multiple telephone poles through several tons of metal without making a sound.

That's not even how you snap a neck.

If that's your issue with it, fine, but that's not a legitimate criticism of the movie.

Nice. Should have the DC logo on his shirt though

Pretty much. What they should have done in this film is have Superman as the typical goody-two-shoes hero from the beginning, saving cats from trees, rescuing people from fires, stop advanced war machines, rescue villagers from hostiles and making sure nobody gets killed, catching planes, etc.
Then they could have had Zod show up and force Superman into a corner, it would have been much more powerful.

Rage of the manlet.

HOLY SHIT WHAT A MANLET HAHAHA

Directors are weird fucks

Why does he act like a teenager?

Feel free to elaborate on how that is not a valid criticism of man of steel, which was an attempt to be a "real world" superman.

Did the people in the local area also deserve to have their telephone lines destroyed?

What if somebody needed to call 911 but he couldn't because the Superman had a hissyfit.

>Did the people in the local area also deserve to have their telephone lines destroyed?
LOL WHO CARES

ITS JUST A MOVIE BRO

What's so baffling about that scene is that Superman decides to turn the other cheek when the guy is provoking him showcasing that he is the better man only to then throw a childish temper tantrum and destroy the truck.

but it was TOTALLY COOL DUDE

a lot of actors don't watch their own movies

If I was an actor I wouldn't watch my own movies either. It would make me self conscious, and I would probably judge myself harshly and attempt to improve, which may have the opposite effect in reality.

>I don't speak fluent English: The Post

That guy shouldn't have been a dick to him, then.

>Marvel kills Ultron, one of the greatest villains of all times
>DC kills Zod, one of the greatest villains of all times
Just what are these people thinking? Why are they killing the villains?

Marvel could bring Ultron back just saying he had a backup somewhere and nobody would bat an eye.

Because there are a ton of villains so there's no need to keep one alive when they can just pull from a group of like 10. Besides these franchises never make it long enough to exhaust the supply of villains anyway. By the time Marvel runs out of decent villains to portray they'll have already rebooted it.

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>that's not a legitimate criticism of the movie
It's a completely valid criticism. It makes no sense that he could have done that right outside the diner and had no one passing by, or inside, notice what he was up to.

>kevin costner was afraid INVINCIBLE SON would get hurt?

How would a tornado hurt INVINCIBLE SON?

>pick up truck and fly away
>destroy it
>return it
takes literally 2 seconds

>kevin costner was afraid clark would get hurt?
lol dumbass

Man of Steel gets too much hate. Like most capeshit, it's not what I'd call a "great" movie, but it's not bad either.

The collateral damage and killing Zod was fine. Having a darker tone instead of just being a retread of Reeves superman was fine. My only real complaints are
1) Costner choosing to die even though superman could fly over and rescue him so quickly that nobody would even see
2) not enough actual heroism on Superman's part. What do we see in the movie? He's rescues some people here and there in the beginning BEFORE he actually becomes a superhero. After he comes out as superman, the only thing he does is "save the world" from Zod... but Zod was only there because Superman was there. So he's saving the world from a problem that only exists because he was there in the first place. It's like if a track mud into your house, and then act like cleaning the mud off your floors is some altruistic act of kindness, rather than just cleaning up after my mess.

Right, because flying off with a fucking truck, implying it with multiple telephone poles, and then flying it back without being noticed is so easy and would only take 2 seconds.

The only good thing in that diner scene is the guy trying to push Clark, and just bouncing off him while clark doesn't move an inch.

>implying it with multiple telephone poles
>implying it
kek

Also its easy as fuck, superman is flash-tier

>fly over and rescue him so quickly that nobody would even see
He couldn't fly at that point.

And your second point is wrong. It would be like me tracking a bit of dog shit into your house, which I didn't know was stuck to my shoe, and then cleaning that up.

He had no idea Zod even existed, so how is it his fault that Zod decided to come to earth?
He went with Zod when he asked, and then Zod turned around and said "lol ima destroy earth" so how is that his fault?

I think implying it could work

>No, Man of Steel is almost flawless. Maybe the Stop Invincible son scene could have been handled better. But the DCEU failed somewhere in the middle of BvS.
absolutely agreed.

the neck snap was what made MoS so fucking good.

He was young in that scene, and he couldn't fly.

But go ahead and tell me how a young Superman who doesn't even have a full grasp of his powers could run off carrying a truck, impale it with telephone poles, and then run back without anyone noticing, all in 2 seconds.

His face makes it, like he’s oblivious to how stupid what he’s just done is

The issue is that Clark could have gone to save the dog without having anyone see him use his powers.

His dad could have taken the kid to the bridge, and clark could have run over (people wouldn't be suspicious of a young, athletic male running quickly to save a dog) and then got the dog out easily.
He wouldn't have got stuck, because he could just kick the door off, and at that distance no one would be able to see clearly or suspect a thing, and then he could sprint back, again without suspicion because he is a young athletic looking man.

There was 0 reason for his dad to risk his life.
The scene would have worked better if they had got split up, Clark gets to shelter, and they can;t find him.
Then cut to him saving the dog and telling Clark not to come save him.

After he becomes superman Zod attacks though. We see him rescuing people in the BvS montage.

It wouldn't have had the same impact if Superman was already a hero prior to Zod arriving. And when Zod made the news everyone would have pointed out to Superman instead of the world being confused and scared about "who is he?", which is more realistic imo.

How is it stupid? Go ahead DCucks, explain it.

>Snyder doesn't understand superm....

>We see him rescuing people in the BvS montage.
But I was talking about Man of Steel, not BvS.

>He couldn't fly at that point.
Are you sure about that? I actually don't know because MoS uses a lot of flashbacks that aren't in chronological order, so it can be hard to tell with this sort of thing.

>And your second point is wrong. It would be like me tracking a bit of dog shit into your house, which I didn't know was stuck to my shoe, and then cleaning that up.
That doesn't change my point. It's still a problem that came with him. Had Superman, in a theoreticaly alternate history, never landed on earth, Zod would not have found earth and killed anyone.

I'm not saying it's Supes' "fault". I'm saying the problem only exists because he was there. It doesn't matter if it was intentional or unintentional or whether he could've done anything about it. He's still effectively "saving the world" from a problem that he brought.

he killed Shazam?

He should have made it funny. He wanted to make his superman distinct didn't he?
After the necksnap, he should've quiped and flew away.

Yes he couldn't fly. He doesn't fly until he gets the suit, which is after all the flashbacks to his youth/early adult life.

He is still saving the world though. Nothing that you said changes that fact.

>and I would probably judge myself harshly and attempt to improve, which may have the opposite effect in reality.
for this reason one should, at least once in a while, watch ones own movies or at least ones scenes

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Pa Kent left Clark to protect Ma Kent. He cared about the dog, but not as much as his wife. He's also the type of guy type handle shit himself. This is paralleled later by Clark taking up the spear to kill Doomsday even though it weakens him

Saving the world from the problem he brought with him. Yes, that absolutely undermines him saving something.

It's like someone being a carrier for a deadly disease, unintentionally infecting a bunch of people, and then also finding the cure. Great, you cured the disease and "saved" everyone, but you also brought the disease in the first place.

Had you never come here in the first place, the world would be better off because the thing you saved the world from at all also wouldn't exist.

Saved

>This is paralleled later by Clark taking up the spear to kill Doomsday even though it weakens him
That was a shit tier scene and please don't remind me of it. The entire doomsday battle was retarded.

Also, it doesn't change the fact Pa Kent decided to kill himself over being alive with his wife. Clark could have run to him and carry him, there was enough time.

>zero context for any of them

>Pa Kent left Clark to protect Ma Kent.
And what is he supposed to do to protect her, when he isn't supposed to show off his powers?

the idea of superman being flash-tier at that point undermines completely the entire DCEU.

He didn't bring the problem with him. Are you seriously blaming him for some mad man who had a grudge against his father?

It wasn't his problem that Zod was crazy and wanted to kill earth. But he took responsibility and stopped him.

snyder copied a bunch of comic panels for watchmen as well, all while betraying a complete and total lack of understanding there too.

oh wow he looked at pictures and then copied them that means he totally understand their motivations