Gunnerkrigg Court - Chapter 61: Page 13

> Oh.

I think Ayilu's about to butt in and shut Red up.

On the nose as fuck.

Stop turning into a shitty writer, Tom.

>turning into

She looks pretty un-engaged, really.

See, I like this. Annie needs to be called out.

What would be REALLY shitty writing is if, after all this, Annie smooths things over and the status quo is maintained.

Annie getting told her meddling with shit in secret is a problem.

Annie will try to defend herself.

And then the invasion will start.

Annie you fucked up.

This is hilarious and brutal as fuck; on the other hand this dude is getting way too fucking meta

It's funny cuz this is literally everything everyone here was complaining about. I mean red isn't wrong. Annie is a bit of a little shit.

>letting the court know about a highly top secret mission

You can't have Coyote knock over buildings every time, man

Okay this is stupid
A doctor can't do much about a knife in the heart
She had no choice but to bargain with the spirits

She should have said that the healers in the court are not as good as the spirit guides, which is also conveniently the truth.

Annie getting her shit slapped is fine, but this dialogue is clunky as fuck. I guess it's supposed to be brutally blunt and clear and a surprise coming from lol randumb but it's a pain to read. Shit's flopping.

It wasn't in the heart. If it was he would have straight up died right then and there. He was just bleeding out. It was something a doc could have helped.

I think Red's projecting too much of her fairy selfishness here. Thinking that Annie was the only one who wanted to free Jeanne and that she would be the only one who'd get in trouble if the Court found out.

She still has a point about putting her and Ayilu in danger for something that costs Annie nothing but not everything she's saying is right.

What Annie did was unforgivable.
>But she sold her soul
Because she was more scared of being caught than be concerned about the life of her friend. I can sympathize with Annie when she and Reyn has a falling out, it was a bad situation all about. But here, this is cowardice.

Keep going Tom I'm almost there!

Why did it matte if ghosty girl was gone to anyone but Annie? She was essentially keeping the court and forest in a stalemate sort of cease-fire. If anything it causes more problems for everyone now.

WE GET IT, SHE'S SELFISH

What you want Annie to run and have a breakdown?

Because Annie and her friends aren't psychopaths like you.

Now we'll get a war and massive casualties on both sides.

Parley likely being first among them getting ambushed in the forest and crippled.

This.

It's like what happens in Watchmen when Dr. Manhattan fucks off from the planet. The uneasy truce is broken. War is coming. Coyote is chomping at the bit to do bad shit to the Court.

Yes.

What the fuck do you mean she told them to wait? That didn't happen, Tom. This is legitimately turning into the worst written chapter we've ever had.

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Annie going to learn too late that you don't depend on a Trickster god.

I thought she learned that when Coyote put a death collar on her.

I want the in-comic equivalent of that one picture from a couple weeks ago of Blue getting the shit slapped out of her and pissed on.

Only, you know, to Annie. Because I care.

Nope.

I wonder if, after all, Coyote's going to take her hand off. It was always shitty to me that he put that brand on her and nothing ever came of it. That was like a Chekov's gun that didn't get fired. I expect him to exact a pound of flesh from her, sooner or later.

But that's not what happened at all. She tried to get the fucking gods of death to heal him while they were standing right there. This is dumb as shit.

>What the fuck do you mean she told them to wait? That didn't happen, Tom.

Shit reasoning; to what degree could a doctor have helped Smitty? I don't know and neither did Annie. But she DID know the psychopomps could outright erase the wound entirely. Much better option than going to a doctor. AND she had to pay a price to get it done. She transferred the "damage" from Smitty to herself.

>Stop turning into a shitty writer, Tom.
But he never did to begin with. What make you think he is?

Yeah, I just went back and found that. Still it clearly didn't happen the way she's describing. There's nothing to indicate that she was doing it out of selfishness instead of doing the fucking obvious thing of trying to get the pomps to save him.

>What Annie did was unforgivable.
All of the one involved came willingly and knew the risk.

As for the healing thing, I think she didn't really think it straight and was also trying to cover the ass of everyone, not just herself. She was trying to keep people out of trouble.

When she has a friend who can teleport Smitty to the hospital, with Smitty conscious enough to make sure Parley would teleport exactly where they need to go, and they both can do this with hardly any effort. And Smitty wasn't insta dead so he could still be saved by Court health specialists.

It's not really meta at all, there. pointing out those issues make snese in-universe and would have happened even if the readership didn't in the first place.

Yeah but people who can heal him instantly with no risk were standing right there.

Who else even knew about the pomps other than her and kat? As far as everyone else there knew, Annie wanted them to wait just to chat.

She learnt nothing from her Dad. Stop going to Psychopomps for help they'll dick you over for shits and giggles.

>Annie needs to be called out.

Not really. This is just basic hero shit. Even if the morality of it makes sense, all it is is a way to hold your own story down. I'm okay with the conflict, for sure, but what I really want to see is Annie stick up for herself next page and say she's sick of getting shit for doing the right thing.

How do you know that?

But that isn't no risk its a bargain that comes with just as many strings as Smitty has.

The pomps erased the wound in a moment; no normal doctor could do anything like that.

He's missing bits to prove that. And all they did was twist his desire.

But the question is of Annie risking others for her own plans. This is the opposite; redirecting the costs to herself.

She didn't know that they would want that when she asked them though.

She's heard fucking stories of their bullshit. She should be a lot smarter about this shit now.

That just makes it worse. So her plan B was
>lol I'll strike a deal with Psychopomps if things go wrong nothing bad could happen
>oh hai Dad's severed hand

>She was essentially keeping the court and forest in a stalemate
>Now we'll get a war and massive casualties on both sides.
>The uneasy truce is broken. War is coming.
This argument again.
Why do people keep forgetting.

It's an hard proven fact that THE ANNANS WATER GHOST DIDN'T MEAN SHIT

IT WAS COMPLETELY USELESS TO PROTECT THE COURT FROM COYOTE.

This honestly feels a little like a make-up chapter. Like Tom is trying to assure us there's going to be fallout from the business with Jeanne after the chapter ended without that being overly apparent, despite the bit with Coyote at the end.

They didn't just erase the wound, they reversed it
they put all his bits back in

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And we're not lacking in Annie getting constantly shat on. This arc needs to end and Annie needs to finally pull herself out of this shit and achieve something herself. I'm getting close to just dropping the comic out of being sick of this same shit over and over.

That and they tricked him and almost killed her messing with her elemental soul.

Then why hasn't Coyote already taken the Court?

There is specifically a page, moreover, where he mentions that the Court did something to the Annan Waters to prevent him from moving as freely as he liked across them. Presumably that "something" was Jeanne.

Oh boy it's time to shit on a character for not having meta knowledge and a completely clear head in the moment.

People keep forgetting that Coyote has Looney Tunes tier powers and is the most powerful being in this setting so far. Why? It's not that hard to believe that Angry Wraith does't stand a chance against the Native American Trickster God.

Also, people forget that it's Coyote in the first place who separated the Court form the forest. None of the habitnat of the forest wll dare to go against Coyote's edict. Jeanne was basically a "You... You too..." kneejerk reaction from the court who proved itself to be useless.

>Then why hasn't Coyote already taken the Court?
seeBecause he doesn't want to. it's Coyote who initially wanted the forest and the court separated.

Its not meta knowledge. She's making deals without planning or educating herself about what she's trying to deal with.

Yea she's being a irresponsible shit.

Oh boy it's time for Annie to completely forget her entire childhood being around these douchebags. It's not like Psychopomps are an integral part of her identity or anything.

Trickster God

Telling the Truth

Yea he's not.

Then why was he so excited at the end of the chapter, when Jeanne moved on to death? Something has changed in his favor, and he knows it.

Okay but the ANNIE IS A FUCKING STUPID SLUT meme is irrelevant to this conversation. The point is that she did the closest obvious available solution to the problem. Mostly out of panic yes, but it's bullshit to suggest that it was selfish to take the risk to make sure he was healed.

Trickster God.

Casually messes with the moon and memories and knocking Ysengrin out cold.

Somehow not powerful enough to make a ravine.

Coyote does not lie.

That would make it less funny.

Whole point is he's not telling the whole truth.

Which will be revealed later.

But Coyote said...

AND YOU JUST BELIEVED HIM!?

Neither of us even mentioned that meme you neurotic mess. And how is making a decision that you have poorly planned beforehand anything close to an impulse decision?

But Annie made sure all the string were only attached to her.
I don't think the one who tricked her dad were actually psychopomp, seemed closer to Wisp or something. Bringing people from the dead seems to go strongly against their policy AND, the psychopomp wanted Annie alive for their own agenda. Tricking Tony in killing Annie contradict that. So I would strongly consider those who tricked Tony to not be psychopomp.

Annie has changed.

She's like the only thing he's shown interest in this entire time.

Boy you're dumb.

Jones outright says he doesn't lie. He can be vague or omit things but outright lying takes the fun out of wordplay.

Coyote doesn't lie. It's a canon acknowledged fact by every credible being in the comic.

>Oh boy it's time for Annie to completely forget her entire childhood being around these douchebags.
seeThose aren't those who tricked Tony, most likely.

That's the point he's distorted things by omissions.

>And how is making a decision that you have poorly planned beforehand anything close to an impulse decision
what

Coyote made the ravine, the Court put Jeanne down there.

The Court's ploy has been neutralized, Coyote's hasn't.

What you're suggesting isn't explained by omissions though, but rather a complete reversal of his statements.

It's not like a ravine is a particularly large obstacle for the court.

He was inside the Court by invitation when that happened. And regardless of whether or not Jeanne could stop a literal god, there's a lot more dangers in the Forest than just Coyote.

They clearly would most like to be left alone by the forest.

that's a dumb reasoning
Nobody could have possibly assumed Coyote would -not- learn about it

>if you invite a coyote into your home you lose all power over him

He specifically says he personally scored the earth and divided the Court and Forest. When Annie asks if he made the Annan Waters, he bluntly says yes.

There's no omission here. He plainly said and confirmed things and the only way that could be false is if he was lying, which he can't do.

Seriously mate. You got it wrong. Stop dragging this out to save face or something.

I honestly believe it wasn't poorly planned.

And I can actually understand Annie's logic. It's precisely because she put everyone at risk that she considered her RESPONSIBILITY that she should be the only one to suffer from the consequences of it.

The Court hearing about this would not have just meant Annie getting in trouble.

I mean, we have literally see how she reacted when she was caught red-handed by Tony. She made sure she was the only one to took the blame and testimoned immediately to make sure Kat wouldn't get in trouble for her using her notes to cheat.

Taking one for the team, epsecially if she feel responsible, IS her MO.

She didn't want the court to know because she didn't want the OTHER to be in trouble, not her. So instead, she made a deal with the Psychopomp.

It's chidish, but guess what, she is a child and it fit her sense of sacrifice and responsibility.

Maybe the other wouldn't have minded to get in trouble and would have preferred that rather than Annie sealing a deal of forsaking her own freedom. but because she thought all of this was her fault and her responsibility, she considered SHE HAD TO be the only one to pay for it.

>there's a lot more dangers in the Forest than just Coyote.
seeIT's Coyote who separated the forest from the court. Any danger coming from the forest to attack the court would directly break Coyote's rule.

None in the forest is stupid enough to risk that.

When I look at these threads I think "that post is mine" but then it isn't mine.

Ysengrin might.

I'm getting kind of sick of people not getting exactly how powerful Coyote is and how the Forest fears him. This isn't new.

Ysengrin might be the last person to disobey Coyote.

Calling it now, next update will be Red saying "HIGH FIVE!".

WHAT THE FUCK

TOM I THOUGHT THIS WAS GOING TO BE CUTE AND FUNNY RED SHENANIGANS.

he fucking tricked me

Yeah but he's also the most likely person in the forest to start shit with the Court.

I don't even read this series and I can tell Elf-Ears is in the wrong.

Just wanted to stop by this thread and say it seems like the author is really pandering to something.

Just my two cents.

Ysengrin? Don't make me laugh, that guy's the most loyal to Coyote, and has his memories toyed by Coyote, and gets tossed aside by Coyote, all with little effort.

You should read the series because Elf-Ears is totally right.

You should read the series instead of acting like a drive by Sophist.

>pandering
that word has completely lost meaning to me.

she is addressing point anyone who think about it should.

What "rule"? He made the ravine to stop both sides from constantly trying to kill each other, but that doesn't mean he wouldn't still get a laugh out of Forest creatures being a pain in the Court's ass.