How did Gandalf get his staff back in Fellowship?

How did Gandalf get his staff back in Fellowship?

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>name is Sauron man
>staff looks like an evil mordor tower
>his own tower is literally called Orc tank

The free peoples are fucking stupid not to see it coming

Middle Earth had very strict staff regulation. After being imprisoned Gandalf's right to bear staffs was taken away like it is with all magic using felons. Luckily for Gandalf there was also a firm belief in rehabilitation and seconds chances for first time offenders. After regaining power from defeating the Balrog, filing the proper paperwork and attending safety classes, he was legally able to own and operate the staff seen in The Two Towers

Provided by the wizard government. What do you think their tax policies pay for?

Saruman is just the title he was given by men, Orthanc means 'fang' in westernesse and his staff is meant to look like orthanc, which is described as having four prongs at the summit.

His staff is completely different after he dies, obviously it's a new staff. The real question is how did he fix his staff after the witch king destroyed it

>The real question is how did he fix his staff after the witch king destroyed it

Probably made a new one. It's not like he was reborn with the white staff and clothes. All that shit came from Galadriel.

Why don't the wizards ever do any fucking magic in this movie? I can count three spells, I might be forgetting one or two.

The fireball Saruman casts. Gandalf speaking to the moth which I assume is a spell. And Saruman shouting really loud at the mountain. I think Gandorf uses one to save Pippin or something from a nazgul?

>hurr where does gandalf get a gnarly piece of wood certainly not the forest or anything

>Orc tank

Thank you for the chuckle

>The real question is how did he fix his staff after the witch king destroyed it

That's not canon, that didn't happen in the books. It was Hackson trying to be edgy, there's a reason it was cut from the theatrical release.

Gandalf is a literal god. Middle earth is a manifestation of the Ainurs' harmonic song. Nothing you see on screen is what actually happened.

the little men of gondor just made little baradurs because they're pathetic and have no imagination

numenorians are the scum of the world, if it wasn't for their mess of a bloodline and what they learned from elves they'd be living in mud huts like africans

spell slinging is the lowest form of magic you utter pleb

Hey fuck you. I'm a dumb simpleton farming the lands of Gondor and paying my taxes to the steward. I want to see some god damn magic.

They want the spectacle not the real magic, it's a miracle there wasn't more flashy bullshit shoved into the movies.

this. Trve Men of the West need to rule the world, not the descendants of some racemixer

Don't Gandalf's fireworks count as magic?

it would have gone against the tone they were setting. back then artists had integrity

He's not controlling it is he? But yeah I have to imagine at least the dragon one had some magic worked into it.

>Lead them on Aragorn. Leave the Balrog to me
what the fuck, hackson?

swordshit magic

claimed it as a loss and received a new one as tax rebate

I'll do my best to answer this.

Tolkien primarily based his novels on ancient legends like Volsunga Saga, somewhat more modern folklore, like the Arthurian myths. In stories like these, actual "magic" (like we see in Harry Potter or Naruto) is reserved mostly for deities. If you read the Silmarillion, you find the Valar doing all sorts of wild shit, like shaping mountains, making a race of people out of clay, changing shape, etc. Sauron himself is able to transform into anything he wants before he is destroyed for the first time, and also apparently has powers of mass mind control. This is perfectly in keeping with the style of the old legends Lord of the Rings is based on, where gods can do pretty much anything, but mortal or semi-mortal wizards are generally limited to prophecy and enchantment. You don't really hear about Merlin throwing fireballs or teleporting, but Morgan le Fay may cast an illusion, for example.

Simply put, magic is purposefully made more subtle and elusive in the world that Tolkien creates. However, over time, as people adapt the work, they want to take it bigger and each book series or fantasy universe want to "top" the preceding one. So eventually we end up with ridiculous shit like Harry Potter magic, where you can shoot a lazer beam by flicking your wrist and saying "Abra Kedabra," or people riding telepathic dragons into space, or whatever.

I hope that helps clarify things.

Another footnote to this, is that the Istari are not technically mortal, but they are bound in the shape of men. Not sure how much that may restrain their native abilities.

He is able to do those things with fire by virtue of the Ring he secretly wears. It's also how he does his pine cone trick in the hobbit and (not shown in the movies) his exploding tree branches that he throws at the wargs outside Moria.

cont'd

Similarly, Elrond is able to control water by virtue of his Ring, which is how he defeated the Nazgul (confusingly attributed to Arwen in the movie.)

They were nerfed by the Valars before sending them to Middle Earth, in case they would turn Sauron 2.0. Also their mission was to help and give hope to the free people against Sauron, not blasting fireballs everywhere.

Conan's magic was pretty on point with this too. Anyone professing to be a magician is a bullshit artist with lost of pyrotechnics, but the true magical power was Tulsa's ability to mind control the flesh that wields the steel.

Arwen whispers to him doesn't he, Elrond whispers back and the giant cascade washes them away for a time. I vaguely remember the extended edition including a panning shot that showed it was him controlling the river and not Arwen.

Yeah, I think maybe that they implied the two of them did the spell together, simply to give Arwen more accomplishments so that they could empower a female character.

In the books, Elrond commands the river, while Gandalf works a bit of illusion to create the image of horses in the foam.

Yeah seems like in Conan the only "real" magicians were the ones communing with some sort of elder diety or literal old god or demon.

Which in turn makes them little more than a pawn though Tulsa, a simple avatar of Set believed himself to be a God, goes to show how absolute their true power over man is.

Why did Gandalf feel a need to make the horses in the foam?

I'm not really 100% certain why he did that. To make the spell even scarier to the Nazgul? To make them think it was all his doing so that he could conceal that Elrond was holding one of the three, although Sauron should probably already know that?

Maybe he was just showing off.

>It's also how he does his pine cone trick in the hobbit and (not shown in the movies)

What?

"Orthanc" is an Old English word that means "clever/cunning".

t. a philologist

dumb fuck

Tolkien buffs, explain this shit

>inb4 Hackson

>I vaguely remember the extended edition including a panning shot that showed it was him controlling the river and not Arwen.

pretty sure you imagined that m8

Gandalf had cast lighting to kill goblins in Hobbit book.

He wanted to gank that faggot Balrog himself without any of those soy boy shits hogging the glory.

Why did Sauron not post a guard around the Crack of Doom?

t. Sauron

He sent all troops to kill Aragorn.

>Hey we want you to fight against Sauron
>just don't actually do anything to fight him though

What would Sauron have actually done with Middle-Earth had he won it?

why did sauronman think leaving him on a tower was going to do shit

How come getting btfo at Numenor didn't destroy the Ring?

He wanted to corrupt him.

It's an elven blade enchanted with his magic

But so are all the swords they have.

Might have, might have been in the deleted scenes bin, may have been an amalgamation of shit from the 3 films plus the hobbit. Probably a false memory.

Industrialization, steam engine, electricity, jet planes, rockets, space conquest and so on

Being overrated grants one certain powers.

That's not LotR, that's from an old animated movie called Wizards.

Yes the race mixer who's father was the one who convinced the Ainur to finally aid the Elves and Men in throwing down Morgoth to liberate Middle Earth. Whose own lineage was from some of the most powerful of the Edain and Eldar.

>it's a comfy lord of the rings shitposting thread
>autistic lorefag shows up and makes it even comfier

But I thought that Sauron was the bad guy

No his sword is one of the swords from Gondolin that was forged by some of the first of the elven smiths. Turgon, king of Gondolin, was the original owner of the sword and he died in Gondolin

A little thing called showmanship

according to elves

elves are directly responsible for everything bad that ever happened

Feanor was def an asshole While he laid dying in front of Angband from his wounds, even after he realized the truth of Mandos words that his elves unaided would never throw down the Black Towers, bade his Sons to fight on and hold their oath, often to the detriment of their own people.

Is Shadow of Mordor/Shadow of War canon?

no

I dont know what you mean all Im saying is that sauron and saruman made more technological progress than anyone else in middle earth

in case you aren't 100% memeing or if anyone is really wondering why he looks so evil, Orthanc looks like mordor because the same men that build the towers and walls that house mordor also built orthanc. They built minis tirith and minis morgul.
The theme being that evil cannot create, it can only corrupt.

Who built all ylthat?

How does Sup Forums feel about Jackson changing the end of ROTK to have the Ring being destroyed because Frodo and Gollum were fighting over it, as opposed to Gollum just tripping on his own?

At first I was mad because it dishonored them and veered from the source material, but you have to accept it because the Ring is just so powerful ya know.

He changed much much more

That's just not true. Morgoth made both Angband and Utumno both of which were delved deep into the Earth.

>At first I was mad because it dishonored them
How? They were dishonored from the moment they failed to resist the Ring and claimed it for their own. All the change did was change Sauron being destroyed by the hand of fate to Sauron being destroyed by his own hubris and lust for control.

Better than Sauron fighting with Aragorn.

What

what if there's still a cute elvish boi under all that metal

So glad they cut that out. Literally retarded.

thats the plot of escaflowne wrong series bro

Twink elvish boy could appear in movie.
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and if you ever saw someone cast one of those three spells IRL it would be one of the great highlights of your life.

Enjoy subtlety in fantasy when you get the chance. It's rare.

Thank god he did that.
Gollum tripping would be so silly

Why did he turn white

That is probably one of the dumbest things I've ever seen, congrats user

I haven't seen this shit in years. I used to be genuinely upset watching these movies that I couldn't grow beard.

What the fuck is this stubble shit. Doesn't any of the main characters ever have a real non wig beard? What a retard i truly was.

Kek

>saruman falls to depravity, his colors turns rainbow
>gandalf evolves as a being, his color turns white

it was a different time

He needed to get rid of melanin to become more intelligent.

The eagles were an arse pull

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build an internet, video games and porn to enslave middle earth

>when the party leader wants all the loot from the boss

Would Sauron have implemented net neutrality?

>redditspacing shitposts
you were such a convincing retard before this little mistake.

Tactics aside, was this scene literally perfect?
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I absolutely love the decisions to have Aragorn charge in the name of Frodo, and Merry and Pippin be the first to run after him, and the heroic Fellowship remix theme.

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Was this guys mouth being evil and diseased and shit in the books?

They should have gotten onto the hills surrounding the valley and charged down the hill from both sides at the orcs coming through the gate and pinned them up against the gate to negate the ability to pour rocks or oil down.

He was simply numenorian human as Aragorn.

he's black in the books tho

being a black numernoian does not mean he was literally black