Attention Everyone: Every lackie, cronie, and general baddie is now gay

Attention Everyone: Every lackie, cronie, and general baddie is now gay.

Not all of them. Watch, I'll name one that isn't.

Shenzi.

There we go. Everything's good now.

Gays are evil bootlicking toadies in real life anyway, right?

>LeFou
Could there be a gayer sounding name?
I'm fine with this

The remake or whatever is probably shit, I'm not gonna see it, I don't even like the animated version really, but

If they hadn't made him gay, everyone here would be going "LOL LEFOU WAS SO FUCKING GAY" anyway. I'm not sure why it's suddenly an issue with him of all fucking characters.

I mean, yeah, I guess you could say it's "problematic" or whatever to make the villainous henchman gay. But he also leads a song about how fucking sexy and manly Gaston is; you can at least see the logic behind that decision.

LeFou was always obviously gay for Christ's sake.

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It's transparent, lazy virtue signaling in a weak attempt to drum up interested and free publicity in a movie nobody cares about

And it never had to be spelled out before because from a narrative standpoint it was a very minor detail. And now we're making a big to-do about it just to seek easy accolades without really adding anything to the story. It's cheap and tacky.

Why him though? There were better characters to make gay.

Why shoehorn gays into a story that didn't need them?

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I know you're joking, but if they made that obvious pussy hound gay I'd have had a fucking conniption fit. The stereotype of flamboyant = gay is persistent enough without turning every Don Juan Casanova into a dick thirsty butt pirate in denial.

Something anthropomorphic objects not actual gays something

>"Yeah the guy who was eye-raping the maid at the end of the movie totally loves dick"

>make the guy whose entire sideplot involved trying to fuck the maid gay
>instead of the guy who sings a big gay ballad about how much he loves his sexy manly Adonis Gaston

Because
>"muh representation"

There's that prevailing theory that everyone is a little bit gay (except gay people who are completely gay and not straight at all)

LeFou was lusting after the bimbettes too so shut the fuck up

Don't girl hyena's have cocks that they use to rape the males? What's gayer then a girl with a cock?

>What's gayer then a girl with a cock?

>he doesn't like dickgirls
You, apparently.

Faggot.

Oh you futa faggots and your closeted homosexuality. Don't bother denying it, the first retort is always "You don't like dick? Faggot"

>Something anthropomorphic objects not actual gays something

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>people getting mad about shit in a movie none of them were gonna watch anyway
Never change, Sup Forums

Just sick of clicking on some porn thumbnail without playing "find the penis" and seeing another 3 foot long horse penis on an otherwise attractive girl

He's French. Even the gay guys there hit on pretty women, it's basically a national pastime.

I assumed they meant Cogsworth whose voice actor (the guy from MASH) is gay.

Did you see the "it wasn't a chicken the woman killed it was her own baby" episode of MASH.

That shit was fucked up like the Korean War was fucked up.

Riddle me this fagman, how is porn with a dickgirl plowing a woman speaking to my latent homosexuality

>twice as many tits hips and lips
>a dick pumping into a vagina

faggotry at its highest peak amirite

what does it say about you that that turns you off

Right, so why does it need to be a "big reveal" now? If typical storytelling 101 is show don't tell, why the fuck are they telling us that LeFou is gonna have a big gay moment with Gaston? Was his infatuation not enough?

Tell me what the testicles add

it's because most people are vaguely bisexual but maybe only a tiny bit, people worry too much about a totally normal human thing.

Anyone else mad not that he's gay now, but that they're clearly shoehorning it in for brownie points? I don't hate gay characters, but I hate it when creators change well-established characters' backgrounds to pander to the current political climate. Kinda like with Mr. Sulu in the recent Star Trek movie: no reason for him to be gay now.

Why can't creators take a risk and make a well-developed new character where a part of what defines him is that he's gay? Why do they have to take the cheap route and retcon a former character to shoehorn it in to turn them into the obnoxious token gay character.

Yeah I'm pissed too

The best part about the Sulu think is Takei didn't like that they did that because he had respect for Gene Roddenbury and his character

If Sup Forums had a mechanic whereby I could upvote this comment I would.

why don't you tell ME, you're the one implying you can't get off unless there's a man's body in the frame

In perfect seriousness, I haven't seen the movie and I don't even know if it's out in theatres yet, but I have this *sense* that it's probably not a big deal in the movie itself, but that Disney's marketing people decided to make a big deal out of it for free publicity which will get them more attention and more money.

I could easily be wrong, but if it's no more than a single throwaway line or two in the movie, which contextually I think is a safe bet, let's then apportion the blame for this cynical marketing where it belongs.

candlestick would be bisexual

bi dude here we literally don't exist according to hollywood

LeFou always seemed gay to me but it's not worth an announcement or brownie points or anything. I remember when Paranorman just offhandedly mentioned a character was gay. They probably should have done this the same way with zero fanfare and no mentioning it beforehand to the media or anyone else. Ironically that would have pissed off some religious social conservatives but they're idiots anyway. Just mention it in a laid back way at the end, over.

Most of us seem to be mad at the stupidity of doing it at all rather than bitching they "ruined" BnB. I sure as shit wasn't going to see it but it just smacks of lazy pandering.

Like Han Solo's black wife in his solo (HAH) prequel movie coming out this year

Nah a great deal of what I fap to is naked photoshoots and masturbating women.

This. The movie is already going to be a turd, no sense getting worked up over someone spitting on a turd.

No, only Lefou.
>Don't girl hyena's have cocks that they use to rape the males
They do not,

I'd have watched MASH a lot more if it had been on Nick At Night in the 90s. I loved me some Taxi and Get Smart and Welcome Back Kotter.

the 'best' thing is that they actually brought it up to Takei and he asked them not to do it, and then they did it anyways. So yeah, clearly they are really respecting the man's legacy.

It doesn't even matter anyways, the scene is dialogueless and without following the meta-horseshit beforehand it would have been easy enough to think he was greeting a brother or something. So the whole thing ended up being a pile of nothing anyways and literally was just Paramount trying to build soulless hype, which is honestly the most offensive thing about the whole thing even if you're a grand wizard of the KKK.

bi dude too

trust me, I know

>Kinda like with Mr. Sulu in the recent Star Trek movie: no reason for him to be gay now.

Sulu is an entirely different level of stupid because they made Uhura Spock's girlfriend to no homo his relationship with Kirk.

>hit on
user he was groping up that duster behind the curtain and the moment they turned human he immediately tried to plow her ass. When cogsworth got in the way and cockblocked him he had the purest look of despair on his face as he tried to peer over the fat fuck toward the swaying hips walking swiftly away from him. These are not the actions of a gay man.

>Why can't creators take a risk and make a well-developed new character where a part of what defines him is that he's gay?

Because that is hard work, and also because defining a character by nothing but their sexuality leads to shitty characters. Want to make a good gay character? Don't mention they're gay. Don't play it up, don't emphasize it, don't draw attention to it. Don't make them a walking stereotype. Just make them a character, and maybe, possibly, if at some point it is sensible to the story to show their whatever-the-fuck-you-want-to-call-their-lover, you do so. And leave it at that.

yknow

I know what you're trying to say

but that's not how they write straight characters.

Everyone is at least gay enough to touch their own dick and find themselves attractive.

It's probably just a consequence of biological reproduction being enjoyable to us.

Because gay villains are objectively better, and I can't wait for the day everyone stops bitching and we go back to the days when they were the equivalent of straight villains manhandling heroines.

It's entirely possible to write a character without specifically calling attention to what they're trying to hump.

James Bond is not that character though, because he's a well established playboy.

I actually really liked the bi reveal in Bond - if it bothers someone THAT much, they can just pretend he was messing with Silva.

And Silva was great, too.

>Everyone is at least gay enough to touch their own dick

The thing is, people will get pissy no matter how them being gay is brought up.

and the fact is that, in a setting where the gay character is talking to a close friend, they will probably mention their bf/gf, whats going on with them, how life is going with them, and people will think that is shoving the gay in their face, even though it's pretty normal conversation for anyone who has a friend who is in a relationship.

This situation with Beauty and the Beast is total shit dont get me wrong, they made a bad choice, but people will complain about gay characters being gay, no matter how little they mention being gay.

They definitely shouldnt write around making them a walking stereotype, they should focus on who the character is and make them human, but they also shouldnt be forced to just never mention the fact they are gay, because that can and does come up in different ways.

>It's entirely possible to write a character without specifically calling attention to what they're trying to hump.
but see, you're not describing a STRAIGHT character, you're describing a character where their sexuality is entirely unimportant. There's tons of characters who are defined by hyper-hetero masculinity. Just go watch an 80s movie.

I'm a gay man.

I just wish the media and other people didn't make such a big deal of it. Not wanting to stone us to death or make us burn in hell isn't something to pat your backs over and applaud yourselves over. It's just basic human decency. I hate that I feel like people see me as super special and hype up gay couples in movies.

If they just had that scene there with no hubbub about it nobody would give a shit. Well maybe because it was a reboot of a preexisting property but still it wouldn't be near as bad.

Fucking this.

The worst part is that tons of sensible rational people who wouldn't normally have a problem with gay people end up reacting to the SJW virtue signaling bullshit so hard that they assume every gay perosn on TV are automatically bad and part of the big bad SJW boogeyman.

Imagine if everytime you thought about pussy a room full of people started clapping and calling you brave. It'd be fucked up wouldn't it? That's what it's like.

See, that's the irony of the situation.

No, they should make a new character because you can SLIP in the fact that he's gay if you write him correctly and prevent him from being just focused on as the token gay character. If you create a completely well-defined new character, you can casually slip (maybe just hint) at him being gay while still showing off other characteristics about him (honorable, cowardly, OCD, laidback, hatred of certain food, unfathomable love for certain food, etc.). You can justify him being gay by subtle hints leading up to the nonchalent reveal or biggest evidence confirming he's gay. Of course it's going to be hard, but anything done right will be.

Correct me if I'm wrong, been a while since I saw the movie and it was not that memorable for me, but this goes back to my Sulu example. When they shoehorned him being gay into the movie for literally no reason, they turned him into nothing but the gay token character. I don't remember anything else about him in that movie except the two scenes that focuses on him being gay: walking away with his daughter and husband in the beginning of the film; and him hugging his husband and daughter in fear near the end of the film. Them shoehorning his new sexuality in, in their lazy eyes, justified ignoring the rest of his character's background to just focus on his gayness (in essence making him just the token gay guy within the context of the film).


Again, (because we live in an easily-outraged culture now) I'm not offended that they turned into a established character gay. I'm offended that they cheaply retconned a character to pander to the current political-social climate to get brownie points and are basically using a community to cheaply profit from.

>Imagine if everytime you thought about pussy a room full of people started clapping and calling you brave. It'd be fucked up wouldn't it?
immediate image that popped to mind

bi dude again. I never bring it up and only a handful of friends know. I'm very private about it. That's still not how you write a character... look. Just go find a protagonist in any average movie where they are established to be straight and just mentally replace all their hetero interactions with the homo equivalent.

It'll be extra funny if you go with an action movie but even assuming you don't go with something that so blatantly panders to the hetero majority you'll notice that if the relationship is important in any way shape or form to the story (not even the plot, just the story) that cinematic storytelling is NOT shy about depicting heterosexual romance. Claiming that the only 'good' gay characters are ones where the gayness is hidden from the audience except for the barest fucking mention if it is just ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY TO THE PLOT is the shittiest of double standards and will get nobody anywhere.

Fun fact we still live in a world where a focus on a gay romantic relationship that would garner a PG-13 if it was straight will land a movie with an R if it's not.

WOAH what a radical yet progressive new idea

>I don't remember anything else about him in that movie

Please describe his personality in the other movies, because the problem with AOS is that the characters are one note at best and completely bland the rest of the time.

The ones that get away with some sort of resemblance of characterization either have the most screen time (Kirk, Spock) or have actors that are just that good (McCoy).

>Again, (because we live in an easily-outraged culture now) I'm not offended that they turned into a established character gay. I'm offended that they cheaply retconned a character to pander to the current political-social climate to get brownie points and are basically using a community to cheaply profit from.
This

I'm not even the homogay either so I can't imagine how it feels to have a part of your identity used for cheap marketing

sure you can

you might need a cardboard box, though

>HAN SOLO AND LEIA ORGANA CONFIRMED TO BE STRAIGHT IN 'EMPIRE STRIKES BACK'
>Hollywood Reporter confirms the characters share an on-screen kiss in the Star Wars sequel
>militant asexuals threaten boycott

>Please describe his personality in the other movies

Simple, enough personality to know his name is Mr.Sulu and his role in the crew.

Within the context of the last movie, they diminished him down to "Oh, it's that gay guy (b/c Takei is gay)."

He also had a space samurai sword in the first movie because he's a jap

>lazy virtue signaling
Okay,, this is BS, Complaining that people ae doing good thins becuase they want to look good is fucking pointless.

The only thing that matter is, do they do a good job a it? Does it result in a good story? All else doesn't matter.

um. Fencing has always been part of Sulu's character

>. And now we're making a big to-do about it just to seek easy accolades without really adding anything to the story.
You have seen the movie? Fuck. An henchwomen being all over her boss is not unforeseen. Or an hencman being all over the villaines is actually quite common and spelled out.

it's part of the comedic interaction between henches and their master, nothing different there.

> And now we're making a big to-do about it just to seek easy accolades
I it is well done, it doesn't matter.

Fencing isn't kendo isn't a combat discipline that uses a single bladed weapon

Abandon ship, Tumblr showed up

It was nice while it lasted

Straight guy here but
>man is abut to get involved with a female character
>it's learned he had one realtionship with a man
>OH NO, HE IS ACTUALLY GAY AND IS LIVING A LIE, PUT OFF THE WEDDING!

I mean, is it ever so hard to consider he might be bi? Or at least have one of the character at least suggest it.

That trope is really starting to grat me.

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I see no problem with this.
>unzips pants

>shinji thinking about pussy

hahaha let me laugh at you.

I wasn't saying it had to be hidden I just don't want people to make a big deal about it.

Heterosexual sex is everywhere but nobody makes a big deal about it.

For example, here's Gene Roddenberry's first attempt at getting gay people in Star Trek: A planet of gangbangers. Lesbians and fags were just fucking like a roman orgy in the background while Picard was a the pleasure planet. Aint nothing wrong with any of that.

But everyone praising Simon Pegg for turning Sulu gay because ITS SO BRAVE. SO BRAVE A GAY CHARACTER EXISTED FOR 5 SECONDS.

And the gay dude I mentioned in battlestar galactica was fucking dudes and shit too and so was the lesbians.

They didn't. I saw the movie and the whole LeFou thing adds nothing. It's basically: "Hey look everyone, we took this minor character and made him gay, and tacked on some pointless background subplot that adds nothing to the message or narrative, just to show how gay he is. Because being gay is OK! This is our seal of approval, LGBT community! Doesn't that feel nice?"

That's why it's LAZY. Do not defend shit like this. This is not a 'win' for gay. It doesn't help you or anybody.

kinda don't want to give it up there was some nice actual discussion going on here

but then again I need to go to bed so this thread can burn while I sleep and idgaf

The closest we get is Deadpool cracking jokes about dudes having nice asses.

And being uncomfortable while being pegged even though like... what, he's always going to be the top with dudes, even though he's not with ladies?

eh.

>Anyone else mad not that he's gay now, but that they're clearly shoehorning it in for brownie points?
No, that's the stupidest reason to complain. Either it work well in the story or it doesn't. that's the only gauge by which to judge that kind of things.

Look, if you want to bend your brain into a pretzel to try and rationalize this as your own personal "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner" I can't stop you. But boy are you ever selling yourself short.

No, people would complain that it' shoehorning a new gay character that didn't exist in the original story.

Girls with cocks aren't gay, faggot, they're girls.

Sulu the officer is not a personality.

> we want gay people but only if it's not a big deal

> we want gay people but only if the gayness is relevant

that's the problem, you can't please everyone.

>shinji thinking about pussy
>hahaha let me laugh at you.
well he is fucked up

>you can't please everyone

garden-party.mp3

>Imagine if everytime you thought about pussy a room full of people started clapping and calling you brave. It'd be fucked up wouldn't it? That's what it's like.
There are still people who remember when the main trend was to shame gay people.

Straights haven't got a long history of being booed for dating people of the opposite gender. Even today, SJWs who try to ashame white cis straight males are more ridiculed than anything.

It has to be seen in a bigger scope of several decade as to why there is still support for people coming out. It's not so long ago it was still a social stigma and burning many bridges to do so. It was not a light thing to do and require effectively courage as you were effectively going to lose many thing.

I am speaking in past tense, but it is still sporadically true nowadays.

It's not because Social norms are now mostly changed that they are completely changed either nor should we say to the few that still face adverity for it that they don't need support anymore.

>sporadically
city boy detected

try coming out in the bible belt

>I saw the movie and the whole LeFou thing adds nothing.
>and tacked on some pointless background subplot
Giving more background to a character is never nothing.
Like pointed out henches beign in love with their bosses is not uncommon.

If this add really nothing, it doesn't remove either and thius there is nothing to complain about.

even if you are a straight white male you absolutely know how it feels to have your identity used for cheap marketing its just such a norm that you don't even think about it (this is literally what white privilege and the patriarchy is built upon) but don't mind me I'm just a libtard cuck or whatever the fuck person it is that "they" are getting triggered by nowadays

whaaaaat, you mean being openly gay in buttfuck Mississippi isn't living the homosexual dream?

I didn't bent anything I said things straight as they are.

I mean, face it, if it was a straight relationship, no one would complain about it.

People are complaining that the writer do tat to earn "feel good point", but you seem to miss that it will stop being a thing the day people reaction to this will just resume to "eh".

I mean, it's literally like someone complaining that some dude is doing stuff just to get noticed. If this is the main issue, then the best course of action is to ignore it.

>even if you are a straight white male you absolutely know how it feels to have your identity used for cheap marketing

yeah, remember those awful Xbox ads that tried to sell it as the ultimate bro console?

Now be honest, it was shit from the start and that thread was primarily started as bitching and complaining.

I mean it's called BUTTFUCK Mississippi.

But hey even places where it's not that extreme it's not exactly sunshine ice cream and rainbows


I mean there's probably rainbows somewhere, but you know what I mean

I'm going to bed like I said I was 30 minutes ago.

Hey, say that to At least I know it's still not accepted everywhere. Though I never looked at the stats to know the exact magnitude of it.

>a movie no one cares about
It may look like garbage but the only reason they'd take the financial hit of alienating the swathes of paying homophobes is because it's already a guaranteed success.

I still have nightmares.

>a movie nobody cares about

There's an entire generation of people who saw the original animated movie and want to see this just because it's a B&B remake.

>Implying its ever dickgirl on woman
Its always just a "girl" with a ten foot dick that blasts through the fucking clouds like its trying to fuck god in the ass.

But theres 2 pixels worth of what might be considered breasts, (which guys don't have) so its not gay.

Making Sulu in the Kelvin timeline gya just raises more questions.

Was Sulu also gay in the prime universe? It's possible that in the future nobody cares so it doesn't come up. We don't get to know any bridge officers besides Kirk and Spock very well.

The other option is that Sulu is only gay in the Kelvin timeline which would suggest the homosexuality is a matter of external factors and experiences over genetics.

you haven't watched enough porn.