So were they gay or what?

so were they gay or what?

It's not gay as under English common law sodomy was legal after 30 days at sea. That said they probably just fucked the midshipmen rather than each other.

That's bullshit. There were more hangings for sodomy than for murder in the 18th century in England.

>"If any person in the fleet shall commit the unnatural and detestable sin of buggery and sodomy with man or beast, he shall be punished with death by the sentence of a court martial." - Articles of War, 1757

based

confirmed for woman

>You never had a friend i suppose

Holy shit, BTFO'd. I think i'm second-hand embarrassed.

reddit

so 'scenes woman will never be able to understand' thread?

>HURR TWO MEN ARE FRIENDS AND COMRADES AT ARMS AND SHARE A TRUE BOND DEEPER THAN ANY MAN COULD SHARE WITH A WOMAN, I WILL MAKE A JOKE ABOUT THEM BEING GAY LUL

Literally kill yourself you faggot

pls delete this

*ishoupse

Those midshipmen were qt

sounds pretty gay to me

because you're a soyboy

Greeks had couples in arms and in most cases they were also sexual couples, the bond was deeper and they would care more about his mate

There is nothing wrong about being gay, you shouldn't feel insulted by the word gay

i don't think i've ever finished this movie before falling asleep Zz

no just soyboys

What's wrong with being gay though?

>There is nothing wrong about being gay
But that’s wrong.

Better times

>There were more hangings for sodomy than for murder in the 18th century in England.
If that were true, the country would've been depopulated.

What's wrong about two consenting adults enjoying their bodies?

I know you are but what am I?

feces

Seriously, why do numales and women, who regularly exalt gay people, look at male camaraderie as gay and mock it? Its like they lack the ability to even comprehend this movie and others like it

>uh oh these legos don't attach peg-side to peg-side, I'll just glue them together and say there's nothing wrong with it

well there is but more importantly homosexuality was totally off the books in the early modern period and bore the most severe punishments of any crime. One major contribution to this anti-homosexual feeling was protestantism which always liked to claim that catholics were all faggots. Generally homosexuality at this time was between and older male and younger male and was called pederasty since two adult males would usually be married and wouldn't risk an affair with another reputable man. Women also couldn't divorce their husbands on teh grounds fo suspected pederasty.

what is an asshole?

Why does it feel so good to get fucked in the ass then?

>implying frotting isn't fucking god tier

It's fucking sickening and revolting.
If two men were meant to be together then one of them would have been born a woman.

Homosexuality is a corruption of the natural order. And don't give me that shit about how animals do it. Anthropomorphosizing beasts without thought processes is useless. Certain animals also devour their young, should we start doing that too

It was a different culture, I just used it as an example to show homosexuality isn't *wrong* per se, some people see it as something bad because culture, the western monoteist culture

It's an objective fact, you cum faster with prostatic stimulation than penis stimulation

>Homosexuality is a corruption of the natural order.
People are born gay, ergo homosexuality is in nature and a part of it

There are gay animals too, but it's more common amongst humans because we are one of the few species that has sex for pleasure, animals mostly just rape women to have children, they don't feel pleasure

>homosexuality is bad because it's not natural for humans
>it happens naturally in animals, but we're not animals

Imagine being this far gone. Jesus Christ

>implying corruption isn't fucking god tier

>People are born gay
[citation needed]

Did I upset your christian sensibilities, snowflake? ;)

>fags can get children

soyboy

It can't be cultural beause it also happens in other animals and they don't have culture

Also, it happens it literally all human cultures, races and religions, ergo it's natural

I think in the first book they talked about a sailor that was strung up on a yardarm for fucking a goat, I don't remember if he was hung from the neck or just strapped to it

>faggots think it's ok to be a faggot

I'm not even remotely Christian. Fagism is just an objectively sickening prospect for any non mentally ill person.

>incel upset that even men won't fuck him

>animals can't go against the natural order
>adults can't behave like kids
>it's genetic or cultural
This fag has never even heard of psychology lmao.

I was raised in a strict religious home and I noticed I was attracted to other boys at 12

>Also, it happens it literally all human cultures, races and religions, ergo it's natural

So is cancer and hepatitis, that doesn't mean it's a good thing.

>getting upset you aren't a faggot
kys

>English public schools are well known for the boys not fucking each other

LONDON

This is the correct argument

>This fag has never even heard of psychology lmao.
Explain me why homosexuality happens in other species then

I didn't say it was good or bad, just saying it's natural

Also, most gay people say they'd be heteroxesuals if they had to choose, life is easier for *normal* people

But incelanon, I AM a faggot

Well some Anonymous guy on the internet shared an anecdote, therefore I have all the hard scientific evidence I need to change my opinions.

define why being fucked in the ass by a nice, hot cock is bad.

>Explain me why homosexuality happens in other species then
He really has never heard of psychology lmao. Stay in school.

Other species will have sex with anything.

You can put a convincing wood carving of most animals out there and one will try to fuck it.

Based Royal Navy.

Even if being gay was purely a choice, there is nothing wrong with it.

What the fuck are you even saying? That there are no 'naturally' gay animals and it's all animal psychology due to the animal homosexual agenda?

Human is not different

As I already said, we tend to stay hetero just because culture says so. But in other times, before monoteistic religions, people were more free and would do as they wanted, and back then most men had sex with both women and men

All I'm saying is it isn't against nature like some user said before

>most gay people say they'd be heteroxesuals if they had to choose, life is easier for *normal* people
hmmm maybe it we weren't treated like shit

If you don't know I'm not going to tell you. You'll have to figure that out over the course of your "life"

>Other species will have sex with anything.
>humans are having sex with pocket silicon assholes and pussies and dicks
Checkmate athiests

No argument there

so you have no answer

I know man, I'm pro freedom and don't treat different people like shit, but most people aren't like me

I said that to show homosexuality isn't a "life style" or a choice, it's just the way they are and we should accept them

Animals can have mental issues as well.

>most
This is what fags actually believe.

I have several.

But look at it this way, if you tell a child not to touch a stove as opposed to letting him touch it and get burned and seeing why he shouldn't do it, then you robbed him of a life lesson he will never forget.

And those same pedarasts and fairies were outliers and freaks crushed by the will of the people you ignorant faggot. You know what there really isn't anything wrong with? You, killing yourself.

you are a woman, aren't you?

>being so gay that you can't understand heterosexual male comeradery

>those same pedarasts and fairies were outliers and freaks crushed by the will of the people
Ah yes, like such famously inept and ineffectual historical figures as Julius Caesar or Alexander the Great, for instance

This, the projector mental sickness on everything good and wholesome and ruin it

this

there is no gay 'orientation'
it's just a fetish and/or a hormonal imbalance
homosexuality is not analogous to heterosexuality
there's a reason why minorities don't identify as gay and thus require white people who collect census data to create the "MSM" (men who have sex with men) designation
this FACT was taken for granted throughout history
>hurr we're just now reaching the enlightened period where poopdick is an "orientation" and you can choose your sex because you "feel" like wearing a dress as an 8-year-old
you're all brainwashed by jew bullshit
go back to r*ddit you fucking faggots

This user is correct

Right, because all bonobos, giraffes, penguins, bats, frogs, and hundreds of other entire species not only have the sociocultural capacity to develop complex traumas but also acquire them from the moment of birth apparently

I feel like this is cheating but
>it's just a fetish and/or a hormonal imbalance
[citation needed]

>there's a reason why minorities don't identify as gay
Because they'll kill you if you come out past "prison gay"

>replying to repressed Sup Forumsfags

So basically
>feels>reals

The claim that it's a fetish is essentially a semantic argument, but that's something people use disingenuously to lead into total subversion of the topic. If you're approaching this with an open mind and you actually care about the truth, make an effort to explore what I'm saying here. I don't have any studies on hand that prove definitively exactly what I'm saying—these are things I've gleaned after many hours of research and personal consideration.

I know you're probably just a biased faggot who wants to be proven right but there is an objective truth and our opinions of it ultimately don't matter.

Thank you, user.

t. woman

Oh, and I have nothing against these people on a personal level, but if you think that anyone who opposes your ideas on this is simply some kind of bible-thumping hillbilly, you're misrepresenting the issue and you're probably delusional. Trannies, gender issues aside, are simply shitty, disgusting people. They are the sort of people who feel entitled to everything and who blame their own problems on everyone else. Even if trannies did not dress up in women's clothing and put on makeup and demand to use the same locker room as young girls, they would still be disgusting individuals with whom very few cognitively normal, well-adjusted people wish to associate.

Moreover, the entire phenomenon of transgenderism as it is presented today is largely a social construct. Of course, in this context, the left will try to explain this away with the "biological female brain" and how it differs from the "biological male brain", but if you ask them about the implications that these concepts might have on differences in intellectual predispositions between men and women, suddenly our brains are functionally identical, and we're back to pretending that sexual dimorphism doesn't exist. Or maybe sexual dimorphism does exist (conveniently), but the only implications it has are superficial and involve things like wanting to watch Vampire Diaries as opposed to wanting to go fishing, or other such kosher examples.

The reality is that for many people, transgenderism is probably a mental illness, and it’s one that we’re largely ignoring (from a medical standpoint) in an effort to avoid hurting the feelings of a bunch of soft-minded idiots. For the rest of them, it’s a manifestation…

I love when progressives try and explain gender dysphoria (actually a separate issue and an a real medical thing) and trannies using the male/female brain shit.

It's funny how the different brain structures amazingly don't translate into any differences in intellectual capacity or specialised thinking between the sexes, eh?

>"Men and women have different brains!"
>"Does this mean that men might be better at certain intellectual pursuits than women - maths and science for example?"
>"OMG YOU SEXIST SHITLORD!"

kek

Note that "homosexual" did not exist as terminology in those days.

Sodomy was an act, and a sodomite was somone who commited that act.

Homosexual, on the other hand was first a diagnosis, then an identity.


See the subtle difference?

One is a term for how a person is.

The other is a term for what they do.

Basically, 18th century europe was A-ok with gays so long as they didn't actually penetrate any buttholes.

Fun fact.
Everyone is gay.
The harder you deny it the gayer you are.
The more you know.

Fucking THIS. I wish it were easier to get through to these people.
>gay is something you DO
>humans understood this for thousands of years
>today it is something you ARE
>ignore the contradictions i.e. choice vs nature; in sweden it's taboo to suggest that anything is innate and therefore homosexuality is a choice, whereas in the US it must be innate so that they don't have culpability
Americans are just broken people, man.

honestly just leftists in general

Why do you spend so much time researching gays? Could it be that you have feelings for another man? The regular straight person just says whatever and moves on.

how the fuck do you know if animals feel pleasure?

Men and women have almost the same average when it comes to IQ tests, though. Although there are studies showing that men have a wider distribution of IQ compared to women.

...

I think you're misunderstandingme. Homosexuality is certainly an innate identity that a person can't help.


And sodomy is certainly an act that anyone can commit regardless of their identity.


Homosexuality is not a choice. Sodomy is. But that's okay because who the fuck am I to judge what two consenting adults do in their own free time?

>ms paint comic reply

I'm not misunderstanding you, I'm just taking what you're saying further than you are. The reality is that homosexuality as an orientation analogous to heterosexuality is a modern concept.