"Saruman, you must answer for the children that lay dead in the westfold"

>"Saruman, you must answer for the children that lay dead in the westfold"
>"No parent should have to bury their child."
>uses child soldiers at Helm's Deep that probably got immediately curb-stomped by the Uruk-Hai

They made Theoden into a fucking hypocrite.
Any any fans of him are hypocrites, too.

What the hell, PJ?

What are you even talking about

Aragorn was right helms deep was a trap and they needed the kids to fight.
Theoden wasnt really the best person to make this decision.

OP are you a retarded person

he recruited strong lads only

Theoden went and sent everyone to helms deep even after aragorn told him it has no back entrance to run away from orcs.
Did you guys watch two towers?

Why the fuck would you not use every kid that could hold a sword and shield?

>No parent should have to bury their child
*his child

He sent them to take refuge in the caves and if Helm's Deep fell they were all fucked anyway.

Theoden enacted laws shortly after the first statement stating that all boys above the age of 12 counted as men for the purposes of conscription and therefore at helms deep those soldiers werent legally "children" so it was fine.

>Why the fuck would you not use every kid that could hold a sword and shield?
Orcs and goblins take out hobbits easy never mind the urk hia.

he was incompetent as a ruler, the movies were clear about this

I mean, they were facing genocide..

Aragorn also told Theoden that he should free Sauruman's spy instead of immediately having him executed. Said spy immediately returned to Isengard and passed on intelligence about the weaknesses in the fortifications at Helm's Deep. Aragorn's decisions aren't exactly the kind you expect from a king during wartime either.

>counted as men for the purposes of conscription
What about for the purposes of taxation? Did they have to pay income tax on their wages as soldiers? Could their parents still claim them as dependents?

Did you pass your remedial English course?

>implying Aragorn wasn't making sure that Rohan survived but was weakened enough for him to conquer it once he became king
He was the true villain all along.

Read the fuckng book, they spend three chapters discussing the ins and out of Theoden's new age of maturity law and the financial troubles that it might bring.
You even get to see how coming back from the grave changed Gandalf since now he is a corporatist liberal even though he used to be an anarcho-capitalist.

but what of his tax plan

Its been almost 8 years since I was in highschool, I would wager no.

Gosh dammit George get the fuck out

I'll bite the bait.

No he wasn't, not in the books anyways. He was poisoned by saruman and worm tongues magic, it destroyed his will. When he was freed from it he told Aragon that not only would the rohirrim ride to war and trust eomir, but that he would go too. He had no scope of the army of saruman that marched on helm's deep, wormtongue made sure of that. He needed time for eomer's eored to meet up with his. Helm's Deep makes total sense with the information he had. Isenguard is a more secure fortress, attacking it with horseman and no trebuchets is madness.