Literally fucking kino

Why aren't we talking about this?

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it's shit

It was pretty bad m8

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Kill yourself

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There is no shit. Only Andy. Only Jim.

>A comedian dies in the 70s
>20 years later some other guy plays him in a movie, they never met
>somehow we're supposed to believe they have a magical connection

Fucking egotistical bullshit

we only talk about capeshit and how buttblasted diversity in film makes us around here kiddo

this

They were literally friends and Jim kept in touch with his family years after his death. What are you on about?

saw the trailer for it. Looks like Jim circle jerking himself on his own acting abilities and other people complaining how much of an autist he acted during the movie

Great autistic dismissal.

LETS PLAY TWISTER LETS PLAY RISK

It was interesting to see how actors behave on set when they are being method or whatever. Some of that footage was interesting just because we rarely get to see these whackos in their natural habitat. However, the only inisight you gain from watching this doc is that Jim Carrey went insane 15 years ago before most knew it and he is also a collosal prick and ego maniac. That being said, he is talented but still a pretty horrible person. Solid 3/5

Nobody here even knows who Andy Kaufman was. Of course we won't havr a real discussion.

they never met. Kaufman died in 84 when Carrey was unknown.

Kaufman died in '84, 15 years before the movie was made, just as Carrey was 20 and beginning his career. How the fuck were they friends? They never met.

The doc mentions how he kept in touch with the family after his death though.

I was wrong about that then, doesn't change how interesting this doc is.

decades after Kaufman's death, Carrey got to know his family via working on this mediocre biopic. he played on their grief over the loss of their son to become intimate with them. that's what's in the movie.

So you do agree to the fact they never met and only knows the family because of the movie right?

Seems more to me like an egotistical trip on Jim's part, trying desperately to find himself in someone he admires.

The fucking point wasn't actually that they had a magical connection, the point is that Jim Carey is a fucking lunatic. Are people really this dense that they can't read subtext?

>Seems more to me like an egotistical trip on Jim's part, trying desperately to find himself in someone he admires.
DING DING DING that's the point of the movie, and why it's kino

>that's the point of the movie

dont think I can watch 2 hours of celebrity dick sucking

He knew the family before the movie but I don't think you really know what egotistical means. Maybe he probably is, Idk. Stop sperging out.

everyone who watches this understands this subtext. but it is not the thrust of the movie and there's a big difference. the point of this doc is that Carrey is a genius for his commitment to method acting. yet he doesn't even really understand Kaufman that well as a comedian - he only does an impersonation of him that's spot on.

Kaufman was overrated as fuck.
His character on Taxi was one of the worst.
>Latka says something in his gibberish language
>crowd goes ballistic and starts flinging shit at eachother
And after 4 seasons of being the same stale old Foreign Man they decide to spice things up with Latka's multiple personality disorder.

What makes you think he doesn't understand Kaufman?

documentaries about insane people are interesting though

i'm not going to re-watch this to find a couple of lines of Carrey talking but if you know Kaufman's work as obsessively as i do you could pick up on that.

Did anyone else remember when Carrey's wife left him because he "couldn't turn it off"? I think method acting is interesting but can be interpreted as pretentious. Carrey is harder to interpret because he was in a constant state of acting from the time he was a kid and focused sharply on impersonations. He might be the truest method actor because he never learned to stop.

I made a thread the other day and only a few people replied you fuck

Yeah i always liked the idea of him as just a troll and a weirdo basically than I liked actually watching anything he ever did. He was just kind if annoying really. He only reached his notorious status because he died young. I guarantee if we had to have put up with more of his schtick for another decade or two he wouldnt have been heralded as the genius he is now.

>Jim doesn't know Kaufman like I do
Lol I'm sure you're an expert.

>Jim "I have no ego, you are the zombies" Carey makes a biopic about someone else and puts his own name in the title
What a fucking jackoff. Jim needs to calm down.

i'm a lifelong fan. i can't imitate Kaufman but i understand what he was doing. Carrey didn't really fully get it.

kek this
it was enetertaining to see Jim Carrey be a fucking crazy person under the pretense of acting

Then explain it.

we're only replying because this thread sucks

It's interesting because we'll never have actors deranged in the same way. One of the reasons Carey is insane is because he was performing to an audience of no one in his bedroom for his entire childhood, which obviously creates this weird hybrid of being lonely and obsessed with attention, etc. But if he grew up today, he'd just be a kid with a youtube channel and a million instagram followers by age 15 and his particular kind of insanity and desperate need for attention would never develop.

Hey guys, watch Andy Kaufman break character and become the happiest person alive for a second, as Orson Welles gives him the most understanding and meaningful complement the world has ever seen.
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Then contribute to the threadm

Can you explain it to me then? I never really understood Kaufman. I liked his characters sure, but literally why. What the fuck was his deal?

i just remembered: it's the part where Jerry Lawler explains how he and Kaufman were friends and they worked on material together whereas Carrey was just acting like his stage persona. that should tip you off the fact that someone who worked on comedy with him saw through Carrey

Why can't most of you appreciate the fascinating element of this?

He didnt even know kaufman well enough to know that Kaufman didnt troll everyone he met, just audiences and cameras. Jim's method acting was literally just being an attention seeking highschool bully to everyone on set.
Kaufman and Falwell wrote bits together but Jim just threw shit at him and harassed his gf every time he saw him

Because Carrey is may be method acting to the point where his and Kaufman's persona were indistinguishable yet it is just an immitation.
He's not playing the real person Andy Kaufman, he's playing his entertainment persona.

true

I have a feeling you have the same rinse and repeat opinion on all method actors. Abloo abloo.

The poor director was the best part of the movie, I lost it every time he had to talk to "Jim"

But can you EXPLAIN it.

>He's not playing the real person Andy Kaufman, he's playing his entertainment persona.
Some would say that is exactly the point.

>sperging out

two comments is sperging out? no wonder you guys have suc great discussions on this board huh?

as he explained it himself, he is performing on TV the same things he would make up as a kid in his room. then you really have to take into account a super-meta sense of humor filtered through what things were like in the 70s-80s when he was around. the american sensibility was perfectly at odds with what he was doing, which he reveled in.

>he played on their grief over the loss of their son to become intimate with them.
Where are you even remotely getting this?

I liked it. And I love Jim Carrey. And at the time the movie came out, he was my favorite actor of all time.

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>He's a tourist
The minute I started this thread about a documentary about Andy Kaufman, I was told to kill myself, that wahh wahhh Carrey sucks, that Kaufman was overrated and that the documentary sucks. That's Sup Forums in a nutshell, ever since the election.

Kaufman was no genius. he just liked making audiences uncomfortable by playing annoying characters. He wasnt very good at it but he was the first to take it as far as he did (disrupting the flow of the medium itself) so hes known as the father of subversive comedy

Reminder that Carey owned the footage, so they had to play ball with him. But that doesn't mean that the producers/directors are unironically endorsing the narrative that Carey is some genius method actor, even if that's what they presented on the surface. They gave Carey enough rope to hang himself.

>he's not a genius
Is this a new meme?

That's why I was calling it kino.

I 100% agree with you

>he'd just be a kid with a youtube channel and a million instagram followers by age 15
Possibly not, since there are tens of millions of content creators now. Getting noticed or being considered funny is more difficult now than ever. So the desperation might be the same.

I think Carrey made a deal with himself to not have a real personality or identity for any length of time. He can't have a conversation without doing impersonations. The "real" Jim Carrey is hardly there he's more like a lens that is constantly changing focus.

do you know of any good places to find it for DL?

All you did was link the imdb for the film...

30% Kaufman
70% Carrey

Really should have focused more on Kaufman, but i still enjoyed the doc.

Fair enough. But at least there is the possibility of reaching a real world audience, as opposed to doing impressions literally for your bedroom wall

Jim Carey really is an unpleasant smartass. Everything he does is an attempt at control. He wants to be impenetrable, so he basically tries to subvert every single thing people say to him with some deflective acting. He just refuses to be agreeable, and I gotta say his acting isn't such a smart or amazing quality enough to make his difficulty worth it.

>as opposed to doing impressions literally for your bedroom wall
literally how Andy Kaufman started

Maybe I replied to the wrong post, I think Carrey fully understands Kaufman. What rubs me the wrong way is that Carrey excels at the persona Kaufman but brings nothing to the table with the personal Kaufman while he used the role to orchestrate a shallow inflection about himself.

this was the second most pretentious documentary Ive ever seen

Kaufman's own brother is in the doc, says it was the most surreal experience of his life with how accurate Jim was. But what would he know.

sure it was a great impression. He even looked just like him

Probably because anything filmed, was never the real Kaufman in life to begin with. There is no footage of Kaufman as himself, maybe that's the point?

You keep wanting to make this a semantic argument on "impressions", that's what acting mostly is; an impression or approximation of a real person.

So Jim Carey un-ironically thinks he has Andy Kauffman as a tumblr-esk headmate and we're all supposed to applaud him as a genius for it?

That's not the point, user.

Yep. I honesty can't imagine that Carey did the doc for any other reason than to literally become Andy Kaufman, especially since he's so up his own ass about 'always method acting'. It's like The Room, the whole point of the movie was for the lead actor to pretend he had a life he wanted as the main character.

Calling something "pretentious" as a criticism is pretty vapid and underage. Use big boy words.

Well what's the point of solely redigesting the entertainment career of a person without showing a personal side?

But is it true? I submit that it is. Jim's self-fellating over his tryhard 'ability to understand' Kaufman.

>watched the movie
>was completely wrong about the main characters' relationship to each other
yeah must have been riveting

I know, the point is Carey is an insufferable attention whore who would shrivel and die if people weren't looking at him for 5 goddamn minutes so he has to resort to increasingly zany antics to keep peoples attention on him.

But the focus of the movie is one part bizarre odyssey with Carrey, one part love letter to Kaufman, one part strange introspection into how nutty Carrey became. The film itself is not glorifying Carrey.

which is super interesting to watch, so what's the problem

Calling something vapid and underage is synonymous with calling something pretentious, and policing someone's vocabulary by telling them to say something that means the same thing as what they said is pretty pretentious.

What else do you call an entire documentary of someone talking about his own great method acting?

>He didnt even know kaufman well enough to know that Kaufman didnt troll everyone he met, just audiences and cameras.
>Jim's method acting was literally just being an attention seeking highschool bully to everyone on set.
Think of it this way.

When you earn that kind of money every minute of your day is worth more money than most people make in an entire day or week. Jim is one of the most successful actors of all time. Practicing a character at every moment is worth more than having people like Jim the actor.

I was wrong about one fucking thing, get out of my asshole.

Reminder that the director's intention doesn't actually matter, and even if the intention WAS to glorify Carey, the movie would still be just as interesting as a record of Carey's insanity

The problem is Jim Carey. It's pretty much always appropriate to shit on him.

Nobody believed that Jim was Andy except Jim. Did you think that we were supposed to believe it? Lol brainlet.

Those are not synonyms you illiterate faggot. Flesh out your criticisms or fuck off.

>insufferable attention whore
>super interesting to watch,

See personally when I find something insufferable I don't think its super interesting to watch.

But that's not what the movie is about. Fucking Christ, how did this board get so retarded?

Right, which is why people don't like him. Because he's completely insufferable except for as a cash cow.

Yeah he made shit miserable for Jerry Lawler who was actually friends with Andy in real life. He said Andy would call him Mr. Lawler in when they weren't performing. Jim really screwed the pooch on that one.

False.