Shameless

was it ever good or did it just slowly turn to shit?

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Season 4 was fucking great.
Everything else before was okay.
Everything else after was 100% trash and full "we're out of ideas" tier.

don't watch it but whoever made the posters for this should be killed

Season 1, 3, 4 and the second half of s2 were great. Season 5 was ok and since then it's been trash.

whats up with the black kid

Adopted lil boi

first few seasons were fun.
now
>Lip is cucked
>Fiona is muh strong infallible female
>Debbie is kind of interesting again, I guess.
>Frank is a cartoon character
>Liam's "private school is racist" agenda
>Ian is learning about transgender issues once a week
>Carl is super inconsistent
>Kev and V's storyline is pushing anti-white racism
>Svetlana's whole story is now promoting illegal immigration
>The Milkovichs are gone

this, except I did watch it and it was garbage

the only good thing about it was getting to see emmy rossum nude

it's still good

Frank has black ancestors.

Lip was always cucked
Fiona has always been muh strong female
Frank is actually better now
Private school is racist from someone who went to one
Ians story line has always been muh gay
Carl is gonna be the patriot I guess
"anti-white racism" where????
It literally isn't
Who cares
not everything is a fucking conspiracy

>Kev and V's storyline is pushing anti-white racism
I don't think so. It's more of a "not all rednecks are backwards racists" kind of thing.
>The Milkovichs are gone
Now this truly sucks.

Pretty much this... i still haven't seen the last season. once the girl got really sluty it was over for me.

Immensely. They attacked Clinton without saying everyone who hated her is automatically a Trump voter.

i remember watching it season 1. it really grabbed my attention for the relatableness of the ghetto style. hustling and getting by as a family. Reminded me of my mex/arab family. The story was always kinda weak. But unfortunately what happened was it's a showabout a poor family written in hollywood. Hollywood just couldn't keep up the goodness

A couple things I would have changed
1. Ian should never have been diagnosed with bipolar
2. When Ian and Mickey's relationship became healthy it became shit
3. Lip was cool when i thought he was an actual genuis. when he went to college and they made him inferior it hurt his character
4. Fiona was always the worst when she was social climbing up jobs and trying to be suburban
5. The worst thing the show did was have Fiona fight for custody of her siblings, then a couple seasons later essentially moves out to get married randomly. That pretty much was the worst thing i saw on the show
6. from what i hear Emma whatsherlastname? has refused to do nude scenes going forward so i think that also hurts the later seasons

what was season 4 again?

The cancer one.

Season 1 had the best girl.

imo great, while over last season fion was made dumb bitch, it made her more realistic as person from degeneracy family like fucking up her relationship everytime she was with good guy, this whole pregnancy bullshit like "its all women deicision" lol or bunch of cells.
What are they trying to project? Its okay for a women to be a slut a fuck without condom with random guy, but then its only your decision if she want this kid or not?

Degeneracy liberalism propaganda.

Fiona body in skinnt jeans is hot thou

Well, at least the second Mandy had a nice body, so it wasn't all bad.

>Lip was cool when i thought he was an actual genuis. when he went to college and they made him inferior it hurt his character
Lip is still one of the few grounded in reality. a lot of genius IQ guys fuck their lives up in a similar way; develop an addiction to numb out thoughts and feelings, feel invincible in life because they are so intelligent, waste way too much time chasing girls and fucking up good relationships, and eventually have to start working from scratch because they haven't actually done anything productive with their 20s.

>Well to be fair ...

the show is pretty formulaic, but i still enjoy it. everyone gives a good performance and with things going good for everyone so far this season, the inevitable downfall will be fun to watch

if the downfalls had actual consequences anymore, maybe. this season when the meth heads were after the entire family, there wasn't any sense of danger or a real threat. it just sort of came and went. we'll never get a "the baby did coke, fiona goes to fucking jail for real" moment again, just silly bullshit that can be swept up in an episode.

This season is too happy. Someone will die soon and bring back the drama that Season 4 had. Since Emmy Rossum makes as much as Macy now, maybe they will finally kill Frank.

Dude sex lmao

Sasha alexander nude is the only good thing about this show

A bunch of completely unlikable characters self destruct and make their own lives worse every single season. It's terrible.

It was worth it for getting to see Sasha Alexander's glorious tits though.

Sasha Alexander was prime in this shit show.

True. She's the student's ultimate fantasy.

first 4 seasons where good then it trailed off after jimmy dead then i stopped watching when the jewess stopped getting her tits out

Frank reminds me of Sup Forums incarnate...

>intelligent
>able to get laid
>normal weight
Hell no.

skimming through past seasons
>everyone was mostly miserable and struggling
>not every scene needed a funny tension-breaking moment
>there was actual tension
>feel-good moments were earned, not given to every character in every scene
it's such a different show now

You just know shit is going to fall apart this season though...

i liked the episode with the cunny running around in her panties

>able to get laid

To be fair it's with the nastiest most desperate women. Most anons could probably score that.

who?

it will, but i just feel like it will lack an emotional gut punch. Lip will drink again. Fiona will somehow lose her landlord position. Frank will fuck up the blue collar life. Debbie might lose her baby. Ian will have another bipolar thing. maybe someone dies, but everyone is living separate lives currently, so it won't have that big of an impact.

I just want Jimmy to come back...he deserved to be with his waifu

>Emma refusing to be nude scenes

What's the fucking point in this? Like you have already been doing it. It's already out there now.

The trailer trash girl who slept over at the house in Carl's bed

>implying you wouldn't sell one of your livers for the chance to get fucked by this qt for whatever reasons

Karen best girl in S1

This show made panty shots a fetish of mine

>read desperate

She was literally just desperate for attention and to get back at lip

WHATEVER REASONS!

Horse shit. She might have been good looking, but god damn her character was annoying.

He's gonna pound those soccermoms though.

Well to go back to my original point ant user could have fucked her at that point.

Debbie went from smart and pure to ugly fat edgy dumbass cow bitch. Is this supposed to be a realistic depiction of female puberty? I went from feeling neutral/positive to hating her guts.

And idk OP the show is so trashy it makes me cringe and want to vomit a little bit, so I stopped watching it.

>was in Chicago
>thought it would he cool to see the house
>owned by a bunch of nogs in a nig infested neighborhood

Looks like my cousin who I used to fuck around with haha

i mean, yea. lots of smart girls get knocked up really early in life to a disappearing daddy. it's disappointing to see but it happens all the fucking time

Could you elaborate anymore?

Holy fuck did it turn to fucking shit, but lordy did it turn it self around, Im excited for the new season. This is the only long form tv show I watch.

Bonnie, I think episode was called Bonnie and Carl or some such shit.

she was alright in s1 until her dad embarrassed her in front of the church and she went off the rails

The show should have ended after the Jimmy/Steve shit was resolved. Without that as the core of the show, as well as the weakening of Lip's character after he goes to college, all you have left are former comic relief characters having to become more critical, which is stupid. Also, making Ian bipolar turned him from the defacto third main character to a side character, with Micky becoming more important.

DUDE SEX LMAO

The whole point of Lip was that he was smart as fuck for his environment, but far from a genius. Being placed in a room of like-minded individuals who actually applied themselves floored him on his ass, and it was something that took a while to get used to.

Are you retarded? Chicago is FILLED with black people. The fact that this is a show about a poor, dysfunctional ghetto family trying to leave behind their environment in Chicago and DOESN'T have black characters was always so odd to me.

Thanks fampai

Jimmy is coming back though, the VAST majority of youtube/facebook/whatever comments are #bringbackjimmysteve. Its almost as bad as people screaming for Mickey to come back.

Only problem is Jimmy and Mickey are end game tier romantic interests, so they would effectively end Fiona and Ians storylines.

So we’ll get another few seasons of filler shit until they come back and marry Fiona and Ian

>show starts as a coming of age tale
>sons and daughters following in their parents footsteps
>8 seasons later, everyone is past their arc
gotta be hard as fuck to write for this show

But that's why the show is shit. From now until the end, the show is just gonna be filler.

Isn't every show really just filler

Their filler is more creative and entertaining than Walking Dead's filler. Now that is some true tier filler shit.

miss the real shit in this show. such a cartoon now

current seasons have too much lefty shit

triggered

Such as?

um

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Imagining you getting enraged while watching this and laughing

From living in chicago the last 5 years, when they pulled the ICE shit this season it really took me out of it.

Is this Satire, I hope so

no. Ian's entire plot that season was getting an education about gender identity. It was played completely straight.

Nigger it was straight up satire

literally stopped watching the show as soon as he left, dude was the only relatable character

Is it actually bad? I was gunna watch the newest season soon, Is it a waste of time?

The only good thing about this show is the fag that plays lip looks almost exactly like me so its made it somehow even easier to get young dumb pussy.

it's not terrible, it's not great. it's just sort of there.

Do you not have a chin?

It comes and goes. Like a startled turtle

is this you

I wish. I'd be more famous than whatever the fuck his name is

Will Ethel ever come back?

Can just once one of them win and be better off in life? The whole life destructive stuff is getting old. I am not saying all of them need to be well off, just one.

No dude, that was straight.

Are you Miles Teller?

Can't really see any reason why.

No I have talent.

This is how the show will end if the writers have any competence.

Jimmy was telling the truth in season 5 about giving up Dubai and crime, but was surprised Fiona rejected him. He did the right thing by walking away and had hos partner (herself a liar and criminal) drive up to Fiona and tell a lie about him so she moves on. He becomes a doctor, and a stable human, and marries Fiona (who is a successful business owner) at the end of the show.

Mickey and Ian get married, Mandy comes back rich from being an escort and gets engaged to Lip. Lip will become a full time professor like his mentor guy.

Karen was faking the injury (she rolls her eyes righr before Jody closes the van door to take her away). She comes back in the last season with jody, heimy and Shiela (who has been travelling the world doing shit like stunt diving and kayaking). She sees Mandy and Lip about to be married and tries to fuck it up only to be fucked up in return.

Carl becomes a successful drill sargeant doling out punishment to people full metal jacket style.

Debbie remains a single mother.

Liam is secretly a genius.

Frank dies, and the finale is the funeral where they can all let go of the past.

>DUDE JUST GIVE EVERYONE A HAPPY ENDING
No.

Franks ending doesnt seem happy

>Jews inject their weird politics into the mediums they dominate
Man I'm just soooo shocked at this point...like...wow can you imagine

Fiona has been through the ringer, Jimmy has had to chop people up and was prisoner on a cartel ship. Them being successful and happy is fitting.

Lip being an addict for the rest of his life and nowhere near as successful as he thought he would be is fitting. Yuens is literally future Lip. Mandy also had to prostitute herself to get out of the ghetto.

Debbie is men scorned for the rest of her life.

Ian will always be Bipolar and Mickey will most likely need a new identity.

Carl and Liam are the only ones getting away scot free, and even then Liam was fucked up from the coke thing that could have repurcussions down the line

I still think it's a great show. The writers unabashedly deal with every popular social topic that rises up in society and calls it out for its bullshit while simultaneously being kind enough to see where any potential merit might lie. Its characters have all mostly followed believable arcs. Having Lip's arrogant ass floored by the fact that people who apply themselves might actually surpass him was an inspired choice. The only season I somewhat disliked was 4, because in order to get to where they were going they rushed everybody's character development. But after that I feel the show has been very organic and honest in tracing the lives of its characters.

Is this the
>he got into my coke! thats MY COKE!
one? Because I could've done without that flashback shoved down our throats every episode.

yea it's the fiona in jail season