Do you think the animation industry in general needs more strong female characters in heroic roles that inspire young...

Do you think the animation industry in general needs more strong female characters in heroic roles that inspire young women?

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What is DC Superhero Girls.

There are no strong female characters

there are no strong male characters

There are just strong characters

now fuck off

Absolutely my fair lady. absolutely. (can i have sex with you now?)

It needs more strong female characters in heroic roles, and it doesn't matter if they inspire young women.

I don't think strength is what we should be focusing on. Maybe integrity, or the ability to self-reflect, or feel guilt.

No, it "just" needs well written characters.

This quota bullshit just means they'll get hamfist forced into stories they don't fit in.

I'm just glad we're out of the grrrrrl power! era

God forbid girls have feminine role models who succeed in life with the type of strength unique to women instead of training them to men in all but a cock

anons, be honest.

will this 'quota' 'inclusiveness' tide, fad, whatever, is it going to end? Is it just a phase?

or is it just going to get worse?

I think we need more well written female characters then anything. The problem isn't just merely they are given limited roles but rather in any role they are given writers will make them one note and uninteresting. Even the most "hardcore baddass female action characters" come of as quaint and uninteresting.

Pic related is a good example of a "strong" female character that despite her characterization still came of terrible. In the first season she was an enjoyable character with faults: She was strong and hot headed and always had a willingness to fight. First time around it was interesting because having a very brute person given the role as a peace keeper was a neat concept.

But later as the show went on we realized that "hot headed brute" was as far as her characterization started and ended. She never really learns from her mistakes, she never is really given a good arc. She was seemed to have cause more trouble then anything and what became an interesting personally became annoying.

"Strong" is a buzzword that doesn't really mean anything. "Strong" women don't inherently make good or shitty characters.
Shitty characters make shitty characters. And many writers seem to be incapable of being able to write good female characters period.

>or is it just going to get worse?

I think so, I think there's been a lot of research in the past years on identifying what will placate the most people. I think quality control in general, regarding everything is being driven down, so that there are more people consuming worse quality things.

Forgot my pic.

Let's ask femanons. Did you give a fuck about the gender of the heroes you watched as a kid?

Need More
-Old Powerpuff girl cartoons
-Princess and the frog
-The good female characters in shows that are always 2nd to the boring mc are now the main protagonist and the mc is the love interest (Imagine Steins;Gate where Makise is the protagonist and Okabe is the love interest)

Less
-All girl cast comedy shit
-this -Shitty seinen clearly created by horny men

I'm expecting Carol Danvers to sprout a dick every month with how masculine they've been making her recently.

Honest question:

How do you create a well written male or female character?

What is it exactly that mentally makes them different from one another that defines one as male and the other as female?

>What is it exactly that mentally makes them different from one another that defines one as male and the other as female?

Rephrasing my second question: What is it exactly that mentally makes them different from one another that defines one as manly and the other as womanly?

What the fuck does strong even mean?
Some of the most iron-willed people in history have never fought in their lives and would set themselves on fire before they would add to the war.
Many families are held together by the kindness, patience and love of one individual.
The most fearsome brute can be felled with a knife.
What even is strong?

We need well-developed characters. Not buzzwords.
We don't need unassailable iron women that break all opposition apart while yelling at men.
We need actual people with real motivations.
And we have had some development there. SU, Star VS are doing very well there (not counting AT because they don't really have such a thing as consistent personality).
But feminists have become truly impossible to please, demanding ever more bizarre shit, so we will be overshooting I fear.

stop hamfisting agendas into everything, shit like this ruined marvel
goldbergenstein please stop

What is that thing?

It's funny, because I knew exactly who you were desrcibing even without a picture or a name.

It's all about knowing the human condition and the way social order, hormonal difference and ghe situation will influence a character's actions, motivation and self-image.
Men and women are at once not so different and very different.
It changes your perception as well as the situation you face. But humans ultimately strive for the same things. Their paths there are just different. And how others see them, too.

Your new pet.

Uhhh t-thanks

snibbor :DD
very rare species of animale
handle with care

Only if the focus is on the heroic acts and the virtue of self-sacrifice, not on overcoming men or on "doing things men do."

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What the animation industry needs is boyzu ravu. Name one (1) cartoon with a gay cute boy. You can't because for some reason every gay character is always an ugly and/or fat old man. It is as if the industry is saying "We support gays, but not when they're children." Why? Meanwhile lesbo dykes get representation in even series and in some, they're even in the main cast.

episode?

I think it was the episode about that Angelina Jolie spy movie, Salt?

Gay men are still haram while lesbians are a relatively "safe" option
I blame Ellen for this

Not that guy but watch Catherine-Zeta Jones in Oceans 12 I think. She wasn't some brutish ass kicking badass, she wasn't some wily seductress emasculating men while giving off one liners. She was a good character who didn't forsake her femininity she didn't even end up beating the male characters, she is a perfect example of a strong woman to look up to, but feminazi's would only see her being duped by her male romantic lead and focus on that, not the fact that she's single handedly took down multiple world class criminals over a long career, nope.

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Yeah, it does make a difference. I know that I loved the Powerpuff Girls because I could relate to all of them as cute little girls who liked the kinds of toys and motifs I liked while being individually great characters and powerful heroes. I related to Buttercup being a tomboy as much as I related to Bubbles for loving her stuffed animals as much as I related to Blossom for being studious. I don't think I'd have been as receptive to a similar trio of boys because they just wouldn't be written with my same traits and interests.

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>There are just strong characters
No there's just quality characters, the word strong is autistic and confusing.

It confuses writers who are learning into making mar/garyy sues, because they're too retarded to understand that other retards are using the wrong word.

Think of the children.

Taking risks is ultimately a masculine trait, so female heroes will just end up shaming girls for not acting more like boys.

You can't focus only on the "great people" without making girls feel insecure. This is also a problem in the way world history is presented.

thanks!

Don't write a strong female character. Write a strong character that happens to be female. This should be your rule of thumb for writing things like homosexuality and different races; don't make them tokens who are only their gender/race/sexuality and nothing more.

Don't write a strong female character. Write a strong character that happens to be female. This should be your rule of thumb for writing things like homosexuality and different races; don't make them tokens who are only their gender/race/sexuality and nothing more.

See, I disagree with this.
Most of the time, yeah, go with that, but gender can be very important to some characters, and there's nothing wrong with making an inherently masculine/feminine character.

>heroic roles that inspire young women?

Inspire to do what? I can't remember a cartoon that inspire me to do anything, except maybe doing animation (not gonna happen)

Beast wars didn't inspire me to be a robot

Samurai jack didn't inspire me to be a samurai and fight evil

Now take your "inspire" meme and shove it up your ass

But yes, im fine with more strong female characters in heroic roles, could be cool

I think the animation industry needs more characters that are defined by their personality and actions and don't use their sex, orientation, skin color, or some other factor that would normally classify them as a minority IRL as a means of identification

can they inspire young men as well? Does it really matter what gender your hero is?

The animation industry in general needs two things: Good writers and good animators (also character designers and story-boarders and shit, but you get my meaning).

It should be up to those people to create what they want to create. Why people who are neither of those things feel they have any right to tell them what to create is beyond me. Want to see cartoons with particular kinds of characters and stories? Become a fucking writer or an animator then. Otherwise fuck off. This should be the standard reply when any of these faggots think creators owe them anything.