One Punch Man's setting is merged into DC. How does this work out for Saitama? How does this work out for the DCU?

One Punch Man's setting is merged into DC. How does this work out for Saitama? How does this work out for the DCU?

Saitama stomps everything because that's his gimmick. Gag characters can't be beaten

>now I remember Arale beating the shit out of Vegeta is canon
kek

Can Saitama beat Popeye? That's Popeye's gimmick too.

The rule is that gag characters don't figth each other, or that if they were to figth, they would end being friends

Dunno, we never saw the upper limit of both, they probably beat each other till they realice how silly was the reason for them to fight because they're good guys at the end of the day

One is a hero for a hobby, the other just wants to be manly AF, they don't foght, but engage in a wacky limit breaking contest of feats. Like an episode of Popeye...

>Dented and damaged sale at the market. One can of spinach left...

Immediately gets rebirthed and loses a lot of his effectiveness.

A lot of the other S-ranked heroes are severely outclassed. I could see a bunch of them banding together and becoming villains, now that there are other more capable heroes around who would want to keep them in line.

>They both beat up Bluto

The joke would be that Caped Baldly would still be understimated as fuck, even by Batman and any accomplishment he achieves would be attributed to either luck or another hero doing the job

Some buttblasted Batman writer has Batman kill Saitama because le prep time

>Batman
>kill

kek

He's in Japan so nobody cares, maybe the Chinese Justice League would take offense

Then again, Saitama is underestimated in his own setting so no one will really care

No one is allowed to rival Superman unless it's Batman. Look at Captain Marvel's fall from rivaling Supes to limbo.

Same would happen to Saitama

There's gonna be a lot of dead things in the DC universe.

>Superman
>Saitama
He'd find supes a quaint and would probably want to spar. He'd be one of those entities that only shows up from time time, cause he doesn't give a shit.

Assuming we keep the gag running?

The strongest beings in the DCU decide "fuck it" and they all start showing up on Earth to make a huge spectacle out of being thiiiiis cloooose to just blowing it up. While other heroes rightfully struggle, Saitama gets distracted by something mundane and shows up late, or takes care of the bigger threat while others are distracted by (relative) small fry.

After all the most powerful beings in current DC are exhausted as a resource even more powerful entities are revealed.

OPM hasn't ended so I can't say what'll ultimately happen but that's the formula Saitama works in.

If we forego the gag he gets beaten up by your fictional character of choice and nothing changes really.

not one of these fuckers in this thread addresses the real issue. can he find a better sale in DC than his home universe?

He's done it before.

what if Saitama vs. Arale?

Cant help but picture supes constantly lecturing Saitama on being a hero. JLA is fighting some powerful for and Saitama shows up and punches him into bloody chunks and Supes is all like "what the hell man, you can't do that!"

He'd probably move to Gotham. Rent has got to be dirt cheap there

>Bluto still doesn't die

I imagine something similar to Sentry in Marvel

>Saitama kills a major big bad like Darkseid
>It was just a clone! I am the real Darksei-
>Saitama kills the "real" Darkseid
>That was just an alternate dimension past version of-
>Saitama kills the next real Darkseid
>This keeps happening for a while until the author gets bored and erases Saitama
>Saitama breaks his pencil
>He goes to the bar and has a stiff drink and Saitama is never mentioned again

The question is could he punch out the Gentry, or the Empty Hand? I mean, you can't really punch such nebulous forms of evil, that manifest through dreams, cynicism, hopelessness, and other negative things.

His abilities, much like the existence of those named characters as individual embodiments of those things, don't have to follow any form of realistic logic, so yes. Everyone's ennui takes form and Saitama punches it and thus the avatar of those abstract feelings is defeated and their attachment to those feelings is severed. Or any of a thousand other scenarios made up by those more familiar.

The only way he doesn't win is if you don't want him to. Saitama is not a grounded character at all. It's like asking if someone could write Bugs Bunny defeating those things. The answer is always yes because people can write whatever they want.

This all comes down to us trying to force the boundless unrestricted nature of imagination to conform to what we think of as realistic or what makes sense to us personally, which is silly because that's the only reason those characters you mentioned came into existence to begin with. The whole scenario is silly from the start, Saitama just makes it more silly.

Saitama's defined power is unlimited physical attributes. Infinite strength, stamina, speed, agility, etc.

That is his "power" if you were to take him and try and put him into a power scaling chart. If the fight is "Who is stronger/faster/tougher?" the answer is always Saitama.

No amount of physical damage can scratch him, and if its possible for a thing to get punched to death, he can punch it to death in one shot no matter how big or stupid it is. Note that just because he has a punch that can do so, doesn't mean he will necessarily do so on the first punch, especially if he doesn't know how strong his target is. This is how Boros was able to tank several blows, and why Sonic didn't have his nuts explode.

However such a comparison misses the point of Saitama. He's a gag character on one hand, a ridicule of power scaling and shonen on another, and a commentary on existential ennui after 'beating' life on the last. Under that criteria, he can defeat anything, since having something defeat him defeats his entire persona.

TLDR: If you interpret Saitama strictly based on the logical extrapolation of his stated power of "No Physical Limiter" he could punch Superman into squishy giblets but cosmic entities would probably do him in, if you interpret him in light of his concept he could punch out the Superman Thought Robot because there's a sale going on next to the comic shop in which the fight takes place in the comic.

Darksid now only invades on black friday.

can Saitama beat Powerman?

They both agree to the fight and it freeze frames right as they're about to trade punches like in Rocky 3

Nope. His gag game is stronger from the looks of it.

The answer is probably The Flash

but Power-man is literally faster than Flash

One Punch Fags please suck my dick please

as long as Power-Man does not succed in ending this powerlevel fight, The Flash wins

Holy shit this makes up for a perfect Power-Man villian. A guy that makes everyone and everything OP just so everyone can always have a stupid nerd powerlevel discussion

>please
>please
So desperate to get your dick wet that you are begging strangers untold miles away. You truly are the saddest of all faggots.

Power man is the end of the power level fight. The flash is already dead. Speed force is broken so the universe is ending. Power man beat the universe back into shape so now it's fine without the speed force. It had the power man force now.

>guy that makes everyone and everything OP just so everyone can always have a stupid nerd powerlevel discussion
yeah, but Power-man goes into real life and makes everyone a manly adonis that doesn't need to argue on the internet, so Power-man wins

I see potential for a comic

''Power-Man volume #1! ''No Arguments or Discussions'', for just 16.99$!''

I'd buy it

May as well ask here, what's the appeal of OPM? Like, the whole gimmick seems to be that he can beat anyone and anything with no effort, and doesn't like that. Seems like that joke would get old pretty quick.

Yeah, that's understandable. But the Gentry aren't comic book monsters, or anything like that. They aren't even a part of the works they appear in. They are akin to an invasive cancer spreading across various mediums so that it can infect everything, and make it like themselves. They manipulate the plot of the story itself in order to use it as a weapon. They don't do 'physical' damage. All their damage is by manipulating the plot, and corroding it until it's nothing more than an unrecognizable mess of cancerous flesh, and ruined story, that mimics their own twisted existence. Saitama may be a VERY powerful character, a gag character with no true defined limits, but at the end of the day he's just that, a character. Something the Gentry excel in breaking down.

There are some mysteries and plot developments outside of villain of the week type battles to keep things interesting. Just because Saitama can beat everyone doesn't mean we know everything that's going on in the setting. Saitama is not all knowing and all seeing and can't be everywhere at once.

What's the deal with the Mad Cyborg? What's up with the weird secret organization behind the scenes? Who is Blast? Who is the God that gave hobo emperor his powers? Where did Garou go and what will he do now? Etc etc

It's also about the struggles of those around Saitama and their growth, like Genos, Blizzard and Tornado.

Also there is humor that often takes advantage of the lack of tension, like King.

The funny thing is when it comes to Saitama himself the fights are an afterthought. It's more about all this crazy shit going on around him and his being bored of it all. There is no challenge and no tension when it comes to Saitama himself so he finds himself feeling like an outsider in his own story, as or more concerned with the mundane day to day of his personal affairs than these SUPER SERIOUS VERY DIRE circumstances that everyone else is panicking about.

Not that there aren't cool fights, but Saitama exists in the story mostly for a different purpose than that. It is fun to see someone like Garou struggle against him after a shit ton of build up and have no fucking idea what's going on, but in the end it comes down to a conversation on what super heroes are supposed to be and why this guy, of all people, is what represents that.

But yes this isn't a story where you can root for the main character hero and worry about the outcome of every fight. There are characters to do that with but Saitama isn't one of them. And he hates that.

Compare OPM to DBZ.

Saitama would be Goku. The "Resolve fight" button that is never there to begin with for whatever reason.

It's the supporting cast, plot, etc that matters more.

>But yes this isn't a story where you can root for the main character hero and worry about the outcome of every fight
desu you can't do that in any cape comic

The problem is you think stories have to play by those rules. Do you think there is a hard limit to the imagination? Of course not. So anything you choose to define as a "character" can be beaten, depending on how the story is told. There is always *something* that can happen, some scenario be it humorous or otherwise that can dispel whatever bullshit you just thought up. That is the joke behind something like Power Man or Saitama or any character like them.

The harder you try to justify your invisible sadness creatures as totally unbeatable, someone else could try just as hard and justify them not getting their way. Because this is fiction, and there are no hard limits besides the ones you try to impose.

Also I'm pretty sure the Care Bears could beat your guy. It sounds right up their alley.

>Its a One-Meme Man can beat anyone thread
>His greatest feat is planetary level

They never found an upper limit of strength for Final Crisis and All-Star Superman either. Can he be expected to punch out gods and reality warpers?

>N-No, you see the joke is that-

And Batman/Superman/whatever Superhero will always find a way to win and defeat the bad guy.

Why does One-Meme Man get his plot to override the plot of other characters he's fighting against?

DC has a hard policy of Superman never losing crossover fights to other characters. It's actually one of their rules for writing crossovers for them. Does that mean Superman wins every fight ever?

You One-Meme fags are sub JoJo fags.

>The rules for the Gentry are that if you're fictional universe is impoverished on imagination and consists of nothing but endless trials and ennui they kill you and fuck your corpse

>One-Punch Man is all about a guy bored because there's no challenge


They get fucked like Earth-Me got fucked in Multiversity. Maybe an adjacent universe will save them.

>Saitama is only unlimited physically
His story ain't over yet so its a bit early to treat that logic like it's a hard fact. His lack of physical limits already makes absolutely no sense and is essentially unexplained, so at the moment I think it's safer to take the core concept of "This character has no limits" and keep running with it. But if you choose to interpret it differently and add restrictions it is your prerogative to do so.

>His greatest feat is planetary level
And the story isn't over. We're just running on his stated potential, which is defined in his story as limitless. He's never been shown to struggle with anything so we have no feats with which to determine any sort of upper limit. We just have the gag that he isn't supposed to have any.

Superman is supposed to be somewhat grounded so we're supposed to think in terms of him having to try to achieve his feats. Superman displays effort. Saitama is a different type of character entirely.

>Final Crisis and All-Star Superman
>Grounded and displaying effort

Are you high right now?

If you want to take "no known limits" to mean there are no limits for Saitama then several incarnations of Superman are his equal.

>His greatest feat is planetary level
And he wasn't trying.

There's now a giant Japan shaped continent siting somewhere in the world, I can imagine Aquaman flipping his shit about what that does to currents and shit.

Ignore all feats posters.

Hmm I feel like part of One Punch Man is trying to find a purpose after seemingly mastering your craft. Saitama became a hero for fun yet he is arguably more genuine than most pro-heroes.

He's not in it for the fame and he'll still support the little guy even when he's bored.

Popeye punched a bear and turned it into a pelt shop. Multiple pelts. And a shop. From a single bear. Popeye is a spinach powered punching reality bender.

But the joke isn't that Superman can beat anything without trying and he's bored. That is Saitama's whole shtick. For Saitama as a character, no limits is what has always defined his existence. For Superman in most cases it's a result of several definite factors which can be traced back to a long sequence of events and is supposed to make sense in-universe.

That's the difference. Superman is written to make some modicum of sense to the reader, so he is explainable. Saitama doesn't make sense even in the context of his own story. There is no good explanation, he's just pure "no limit" sans any real reason. As far as we know he isn't bound by any sort of logic or rules or definition like Superman is.

It is defined power that comes from somewhere vs. undefined power for power's sake.

The end result is still guy with strength that doesn't seem to have any limit.

They dont fight
They square up and are about to fight when Popeye realizes he's out of spinach and Saitama realizes its the last day of a produce sale, then they go grocery shopping together

So he basically becomes Booster Gold

No he becomes Green Lantern

Because Saitama isn't the sole focus and you get moments of true heroism like Mumen Rider trying to fight the deep sea king

No. Popeye's no limits game is stronger than Saitama's. He would finally fulfill Saitama's wish for a good fight and Caped Baldy would hang up his cape because his character arc is complete. Popeye wins.

Power Man does beat Popeye though.

Saitama probably wouldn't leave Japan, so he and the Hero Association mostly take care of that country's problems and the JL doesn't have much reason to interfere unless it's something huge and they need to band together.

Genos and Cyborg hanging out would be fun.

>trash talks OPM because "it's stupid he wins, he's not that tough"
>b-but Superman is the strongest, the company contracts say so
Superman being unbeatable is the worst thing to happen to that character especially since he's supposed to be taken somewhat seriously, prove me wrong

His best stories are when he's unbeatable though.

All-Star

Final Crisis

Strange Visitor and several other stories from the Adventures of Superman series

Joe Casey's Run

Consider yourself proven wrong.

Worst thing? No. The worst thing that ever happened to Superman is Quest for Peace or Superman 64.

The harder you try to justify your invisible sadness creatures as totally unbeatable, someone else could try just as hard and justify them not getting their way. Because this is fiction, and there are no hard limits besides the ones you try to impose.

I'm not trying to justify them as being unbeatable you senseless OPM wanker. The Gentry WERE destroyed in Multiversity, but that took actual planning, and a whole host of heroes from all across the Multiverse to achieve. And their master The Empty Hand went "No", and the Gentry were immediately revived. The thing with the Gentry is that it doesn't matter if your setting is filled with rainbows and sunshine, they will twist and warp it, until everyone is an utter asshole constantly propagating war and strife, until it thins the veil enough for the Gentry to enter and consume it. They inevitably corrupt EVERYTHING, no matter how stalwart and pure it is. Nix Uotan is a wonderful example of how easy it is for the Gentry to corrupt people with metahax powers. So stop senslessly wanking OPM as that setting that can beat absolutely everything. It most certainly isn't the end all be all of fiction.

>Hating on Quest for Peace
Fuck off back to Listverse.

Please, the best parts of all star have little to do with "durr he da strongest" and detract from the human moments that make it a better story
Do you really think "he's not actually dead, he's just a disembodied consciousness living in the sun maintaining machinery" is a good ending

He jobs to Batman

>His human moments
Which work because he's invincible. He has no challenge so he can focus on the struggle of being who he is.

The whole thing is a callback to the Silver Age where Superman could break infinity and Amazo couldn't copy his powers because he was too super and the Olympian Gods were jealous of his powers.

>He hated the apotheosis ending

Wow. It takes a kind of skill to have opinions this bad. I'm impressed.

You keep leaning on those rules like they are some untouchable gospel. They aren't. Why are you even in a versus thread? What point are you trying to make?

Enjoy your book and don't worry about limitless gag characters whose existence is defined by beating super overpowered entities effortlessly. You are done here.

If you actually liked Quest for Peace, can I ask why? I don't see how anyone could seriously think it was good. I'm shocked anyone else in the thread even watched it.

>Enjoy your book and don't worry about limitless gag characters whose existence is defined by beating super overpowered entities effortlessly.

I get annoyed when OPM wankers start to insinuate that Saitama can beat anything and everything. I have even seen people say that he could beat Lucifer Morningstar, or Azathoth. It is absolutely ridiculous, and makes it utterly impossible to discuss the setting without retards trying to say that Saitama is some form of God. So I would much prefer if you could stop acting like a smug self-entitled asshat because your dry, bland caricature of a character is supposedly all powerful.

Popeye can't even beat Bluto.

>Which work because he's invincible.
>and then thinks others have bad opinions
Just to use another OPM example go take a look at Mumen Rider, his humanity and heroic moments carry all that much more weight because he's not super powered in anyway, he's just a guy on a bicycle, Supermans contract enabled win against everything no matter how stupid cheapens his character with all the writer wanking that happens and people like you being autistic about how he needs to be the best at all times no matter how much it invalidates everything else in the DC universe

>Saitama is some form of God
That's the joke you fucking autist

You came in here to be annoyed? Weird but okay.

Power level and versus threads are retarded anyway and Saitama is a perfect example of why you shouldn't bother.

Bluto in a world without Popeye would be worshipped as some sort of God.

>invalidates everything else in the DC Universe

>One-Meme's power level doesn't invalidate everything else in his universe

You're holding one standard for One-Meme and another for Superman. One-Meme is allowed to be all powerful because that's his thing but Superman can't even though that's his thing.

Make up your mind. Either infinite strength characters are ok or they aren't.

Saitama is allowed to be all powerful because he's in a comedy series and isn't meant to be taken seriously
Superman is ostensibly a serious hero in a universe that is supposed to have actual stakes and danger but his treatment by wank writers and fans like you that eat that shit up and ask for seconds have ruined his character
What does heroism really mean when you have essentially nothing to lose? Hell, OPM even delves into that and instead of appreciating that others are expanding the genre you get autistically upset because joke characters can beat Superman

>If a character can punch infinity it means there's no point to his heroism, it means there's no stakes or drama

You don't read Superman comics do you?

Admit it. You don't.

Type the words.

I would love Saitama/Booster Gold Adventures. Saitama/Plastic Man would be enjoyable as well.

this

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Joe Casey's action comics run made Superman a pacifist.

He never threw a single punch. He was so powerful that he did pic related.

And it was one of the greatest Superman runs of all time.

why didn't any heroes die in OPM?

there were at least four B and C listers that should've been killed by the beatings they got, specifically against sea king

>Kirito
>Waifu bait from Attack on Titan

>No Kamen Rider
>No Ultraman
>No Devilman
>No Cyborg 009

Weebs can't do a goddamn thing right can they?

They do, just not on screen since it's serves no purpose as of now. They people who fought Sea King were superhuman in someway, so it makes sense they may have survived

I'm not the guy you've been arguing with about the merits and demerits of Superman being an untouchable God played straight, but I have not read the Superman comics you mentioned. They never much interested me, and based on that panel you posted I doubt they'd be my cup of tea.

I loved the 90s Superman cartoon on WB though. That was the good stuff. But people look for a lot of different things when it comes to a franchise as ancient and endlessly reimagined as Superman.

>why didn't any heroes die in OPM?
Probably because it would negatively affect the tone. It is the same reason everyone thinks King is an unstoppable power house, or why Sea King's nipples were hearts, or why there is a super powered prison rapist that catches villains to build a prison sex harem.

Bluto could take Saitama's beatings and live.

Bluto is the unbreakable rock, the unkillable foe.

He couldn't beat Saitama, though, but he might give him a bit of satisfaction, just being able to live through numerous punches and keep fighting.

>feat

Abandon ship, everybody, this is that one autistic (literally using the word here) guy that's been shitting himself trying to wedge himself into every single OPM thread for the past two years or so, using the same terminology and the same stale arguments the entire time, with "feats" being the obvious red blinking light identifying an user as him. That, and the "psh nothing personnel kids" pictures.

Let's see did he...wow, he didn't even mention DBZ in this post. He's stepping up his game. About 80% of the time, he's ranting about how Yamcha could beat Saitama, then writing a doctoral thesis on just how weak Saitama actually is, yadda yadda yadda, on and on and on. He has brought up Superman in the past, though, so I guess this thread fits him pretty well, too.

Yes, this.

THIS

>ignores the point and doesn't counter it
>y-you dont even read Superman
You have no argument, you know you have none, get tell your handler you threw another autistic fit and need some cool down time in the lego room

There's a new generation of weebs raised on light novel adaptations, anything they get right is by accident

Your point was "what does heroism mean when he has nothing to lose?" But Superman has many things to lose. Lois, his son, the Daily Planet, his identity, his reputation in the eye of people, his world.

Again, it's not the powers that make Superman Super.

Now type the words user.

Except those things are not in danger due to power bloat, he's faster than the Flash who literally can arrive before he leaves
Bloated power = no stakes = lessened impact of the heroic actions he takes
You still haven't refuted it and your desperate "say the words" betrays your inability to think of an argument and is stalling for time