/doag/ - Dumbing of Age - Getting Shipped (elsewhere) Edition

In tonight's homosexual hoopla, we have THESE TWO again, but it's a little more bearable than the last strip because the plot actually advances a tiny bit.

It's still overly-dramatic, and they act like being separated by separate living quarters is the end of everything, but we can only expect so much from Willis.

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the fuck you mean "its over for you." Your relationship just got the all clear, you don't need to break up. Is a 5 minute walk really going to be what spells the end for this retarded suicide pact

>"Oh no, I have a JOB! Waaah!"

Fucking really?

>I'm still a bitter, angry, depressed, and violent asslord who has a job she shouldn't have

All true

I have no sympathy

.... you know the next strip is going to be billie being transferred to another school, right? or are you actually this dumb

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Another floor not another school.

How would Willy even pull that off? I know Clint is implied to be a rich benefactor of the school, but I don't think rich benefactors even have the power to transfer students to other schools without consent.

I think I know what's one of the many things wrong with "Dumbing of Age", and it's what people are saying is wrong with "Mass Effect: Andromeda". The characters in the comic are put in situations that are serious, disheartening, or at the very least stressful. But the characters themselves treat them with lightness and sarcasm.

Case in point, OP's new strip. Ruth is aware that whatever happened between Sir Clint and Chloe, it involved moving Billie out of the dormitory. Rather than having her take a seat or not to panic or something like that before breaking the news to her, Ruth just casually mentions that it's happening.

And there are plenty of other instances of this sort of thing happening as well, such as the way that Walky reacts to Dorothy opening up to him and helping him with his math studies. Walky could be more level-headed about it, but he reacts with puppy-dog eyes as if he just wet himself and also if he were five years old.

It's tonal and/or situation dissonance is what it is. People aren't reacting the way that actual humans would react.

David Willis train of thought:

"Naturally Ruth would go to therapy after a suicide scare".

Willis taps pencil on desk thinking hard...

"Wait no, therapy might make her not an awful bitch, I should probably write something to justify her and Billie's toxic relationship and keep my porn money comin' in"

>I AM ALREADY STILL ME.

My first instinct was to call you out for recency bias, but I can't disagree with anything you said.

Except where ME:A is getting shit for it's uncanny valley faces, Willis has uncanny valley personalities. They're just human enough for their unrealistic flaws to be unsettling.

>uncanny valley personalities
That's a new way of putting it, but I think I see what you mean.
It's sort of like a Frankenstein's monster of characterization and personality. They hit all the marks of individual elements of humanity, but when they come together they form something that doesn't actually resemble what it wants to be. And it wants to be human.

What fucking suicide attempt?
This entire comic is dumbass decisions based on nonexistent events.

Is that one villain character (Mary?) still around?

I don't think her school has the power to send her somewhere else.

>What fucking suicide attempt?
The same suicide attempt that I've made for three months in a row before when I was unemployed.

I can attest that sleeping for 2/3 of the day and not eating properly is a really slow and ineffective suicide method. Also, it's not a fucking suicide method. It's fucking depression at best Willis you goddamned hack.

It's just Clint. He's not a knight or anything. And it sounds retarded.

It's a gag on how before the recent strips, the only name he was given was "Sir".

And of course it's retarded. That's half the fun.

>It's just Clint
We've been struggling with a unified nickname for him, m8. We had "Toedad" for Ross, and we have "Pudding Head" for whatever her real name is, but so far no solid moniker for Clint has stuck.

She's still around. She's just trying to study.

That's pretty cute. I'd think Willy would be drawing her as glowering finger-twiddling evil mastermind forever after.

We all know who she's dressing up for.

Willis, we know you're here. Stop fucking around and write the porn where Joyce gets fucked by Jacob and/or Joe.

I can't get over how terribly Mary is written. I get it, there needs to be some kind of villain here, but this is so over-the-top it's ridiculous.

No human being acts as brutally and bluntly as Mary does, not in this day and age. I get it's fiction, but it's also kind of a slice of life. Instead of taking a new angle on a villain that's Transphobic or whatever, Mary is just a mustache-twiddling 1930s asshole who ties trannies to railroad tracks.

when are we getting some carla porn?

>yellow stripe on chest

Mary's been an undercover SEMME agent this whole time.

I'd pay money to see a carlaxmary porn, even if it ended up just being a shameful fantasy that mary cried about later.

Mary is basically a strawman for Willis to espouse what he feels to be negative aspects of Christianity and religion, exaggerated to the point of unbelievability.

Remember, she was first created in "Roomies" as a realization of Willis' "dream girl". When he realized that Mary wasn't the kind of person he wanted to be with, he just made her evil.

I'm very hopeful for the day where Willy realizes he has a sizable untapped market with people who hate how he writes his stories.

MaryxCarla, JoycexJacob, DinaxEveryone, and MikexEveryone porn will flow from the heavens on that day.

I didn't say suicide attempt, I said scare. The whole point of this whole stupid storyline was she said she didn't feel she deserved to live and laid in bed for like a day straight and then somebody said "hey maybe this girl is fucked in the head".

Which she was.

And still is, because Willis can't have a character who's not totally fucked in the head. Except for like, Joyce maybe, but Willis takes his time regularly to make newsposts about how silly Joyce is because of religion.

If you have $300, you can waste it on a commission of the two making out via Willis' latest Kickstarter.

Speaking of which, I wonder how it's doing. Let me check.

No, for your own sanity, don't.

I I know she's a strawman, that's what I'm saying. He could've at least tried to make her realistic, maybe take a new perspective on a trans-hater.

Of course, I'm clearly expecting too much from this guy.

>ties trannies to railroad tracks

That's what we call a protagonist, buddy.

>Of course, I'm clearly expecting too much from this guy.

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And it's already past its goal. No real surprise; every single one of Willis' Kickstarters have passed their goal.

>Yay, I woke up today and we'd cleared $24k! Thank you guys once again. In gratitude, I've decided to share a character model for a future storyline with y'all.

>There's now an EXTRA PLUS PDFS pledge level ($45) in case you want the book and all six PDFs of the DoA collection.

Speaking of which, one of us ought to consider sacrificing our money to get PDFs. I almost wish that there was a trolling grant fund where people could be like "Can I borrow $20 to send an empty box to some Nigerian?" or some other junk.

>I can't get over how terribly Mary is written.

How terribly all his villains are written, you mean. It's not even a question, his villains are blatantly, purposefully written not as characters, but as caricatures meant to get a pitiful kick or two in before getting their metaphorical asses handed to them by their plucky oppressed victims.

Worryingly, this is of course how Willis and his fans see people who aren't on their "side" IRL: at best as non-people, but in most cases simply monsters who are evil for the sake of evil. I don't doubt that an alarming number secretly (or not so secretly) believe these people need to be jailed or even put down.

I still want to see a picture of a 1930s Mary tying a trannie to a railroad track.

Why would we want the PDFs?

Even if that could happen, maybe she'd leave in another 5 years? I mean damn, this comic based on college life hasn't even left its first semester. These kids are having all their drama in... I don't know, fucking September 2012?

Yep. And six people in this world are willing to give David Willis THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS for a shitty sketch of two of his character's faces mashed together.

I'm not sure if I want to live in that world. I'm gonna sleep in and not eat cookies for a few day now.

Sned halp.

>Put watch on right arm
Isn't that her left arm?
Also, is it canon that Ruth is left handed?

You know, I wonder if anybody's ever called out Willis for using his crazy profit off this shit on buying obscene amounts of kid's toys rather than funding some charity or another.

>TOTALLY MAKING OUT WITH EACH OTHER

He could have made ANY of his characters realistic, but that's Willis for you. All of that would require effort and skill.

When it comes to villains, Willis dives straight into the one-dimensional pool of binary morality. Either you're good or you're bad, and he always goes for "Just Plain Evil".

So that we can share them and whatever secrets they hold without having to actually own the physical books.

Book 5 had five backers at that level.

Meanwhile, according to the comments, the "Shortpacked!" books aren't completed yet.

Has no one actually called this fucker out for charging 300 big ones for a single pic?

a pic AND a shitty doodle in your REAL PAPERâ„¢ book of a free comic.

It is; I would assume it's a note he's making for the final "model sheet".

The worse part is that as evidenced last Valentine's Day, Willis will take your personalized commission and post it without your consent to Twitter.

Stop criticizing Willis you bigot

Pretty sure it's going to be a different dorm on campus.

>The worse part is that as evidenced last Valentine's Day, Willis will take your personalized commission and post it without your consent to Twitter.
Wait, really?
That's like, a cardinal sin of commissions (and a three hundred dollar pledge should certainly be considered a fucking commission).

Even so, that's at most a fifteen minute walk. I think they'll both live.

This is pretty, I wonder if he's going to have her kill someone in this outfit.

I don't use Toedad because it's the WIllis-approved nickname. I'm fine with riffing something good for Clint here though. I'll probably just use some different combo of Grandpa, Clint and Sir every time.

Maybe, but it's definitely not a different school.

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Probably not. The way you know if he's heard any negative opinions that challenge him is if he starts smirking on Twitter about how much he owned his (non-sycophant) commenters.

I love it when people post their commissions to the web for free. It's like a sexy gift to humanity.

Artists posting art that was commissioned from them without the commissioner's consent just feels like dirty wallet rape.

I almost want to give 300 smackers to commission him drawing Toedad making out with Joyce's tranny brother.

But then I know that ultimately he'd be 300 dollars richer and all I'd have is a doodle of two characters I hate smooching, and I can get that on DeviantArt easily.

I know we like JoycexJacob, but how did his commentators see them?

If you're going to do that do something like JoycexJocelyn or SalxWalky, something that'd make it really awkward.

Ruth had really high expectations for getting fired and/or expelled.

How would you even draw Ross making out with someone? His mouth is rarely visible, and he has such an awkward model.

Maybe Yoto could demonstrate how Ross kissing someone would work.

I'm hesitant to ask such a terrible thing of someone who has given us so much, but I'm very curious.

>Maybe Yoto could demonstrate how Ross kissing someone would work.

Yoto

I know you're there, Yoto

Don't do it, Yoto

Ross' dark brown nose dot works a hell of a lot better than the solid black nose dot he gives everyone else.

If I had $300, I wouldn't waste it on that. I have rent to pay.

Actually, I wonder what Yoto's rates for make-out commissions are. I'd hope they're under $300; he could undercut Willis' prices and steal his market.

ME:A is nowhere close to the Uncanny Valley, it just looks like shit.

$5 per character for a sketch.

I'm really considering paying him $10 for some RossxSomeone action

I do like that Billie freaks out about Ruth having to keep being RA. It kinda retroactively makes her smarmy behaviour more understandable. She though Ruth was out of the job so she was being way more levitous than she should've been.

Although, Ruth could just go to Chloe's office and turn down the job? It seems like the real issue is housing and finance, and I'm really confused why that wasn't explored at all yet. It's like she didn't expect to actually lose the job in the first place.

But yeah, they should just wait it out while they work out tuition, employment and housing, and then she should just quit once that's all in order, citing extremely obvious mental issues and stress.

>*He* stopped them, with ass-kissing or influence or money or all of the above --
Right now, I'm thinking that Grampa probably used Ruth's parent's death as the reasoning. Something like, "Since she lost her parents she has these low points, but I was advised to keep pushing her through or she could end up stagnating in depression." That would explain why Chloe is being so stupid, she thinks she's truly helping Ruth by ignoring her doubts. Except it would be evil because Sirpa never got mental advice/therapy for Ruth! Let's just ignore that the responsibility *could* possibly be a positive thing for Ruth, I mean, it kept her going this long, right? But she doesn't want to do the job so it's evil!

Anyway, still no real apology from Ruth for being shitty. And no, I don't count her list of issues as an apology. I need to see Acknowledgement, a true expression of Remorse and a Committment to change.

Except Chloe wouldn't have any reason to keep Ruth on as RA. If she needs stability and responsibility she could do anyone one of the hundreds of other campus jobs available to students. Either way, mental health treatment is available from the university for cheap, if not free, and Ruth would more than likely be forced to attend rather than being returned to her job.

Yikes.

Yeah, I reactivated my dead tumblr account to maybe commission Yoto, and the DoA tag is a very unexpectedly weird thing.

This is actually the least weird of the lot.

But Willis' porn is so fucking bad that the Army should give it to new recruits instead of saltpeter.

>You can't stop us from being happy!

You belong in the boy's dorm.
>Kills self

I don't know about CarlaxBeckyxDina or CarlaxBecky, but CarlaxDina is fairly intriguing.

Also, don't hold out on us, user, give us the weird stuff.

Not the weirdest, but it's a VERY self-aware Willy original that I've never seen before.

Is someone drawing OC of your character without your consent and then sharing the image with you and only you considered bad in the art world? I don't know that world well, and i've had a few people do this for me for characters I have in an RP game. I share the images publicly there and have never heard a complaint about it from the artists, and was considering uploading them to e621 since they're a few years old at this point, but wasn't sure if something -that- public would be some sort of taboo.

What if Clint is off securing the services of a mental health professional for Ruth right now as his latest act of villainy?

>kills self
You mean she goes to bed and doesn't get up for two days.

The only taboo is if someone pays for a commission, and then the artist releases the art for free after without the consent of the person that paid for it.

Doesn't matter if it's an OC or whatever. If the artist drew it for free it's free game, but if it was paid for, the person who spent money on it should decide if the art should be available to the world.

Yeah, good point. Chloe is just retarded.

Then that would secure his place in history as the greatest monster in fiction.

>Calling Dina a lesbian.
I'm fucking triggered.

Technically I think he's already released all of them.

It is actually lacking in self-awareness once you learn the specifics of Willis' Christian upbringing, namely that Willis' parents were the type to up and switch churches the moment they didn't like something to the point that his dad tried to start his own church. Also while he has extensive rote knowledge of the Bible, his grasp of theology is weak and apologetics negligible.

This is probably missing a lot of them. Note the lack of Becky/Dina and Mike/Mary.

But we DO have a Dina/Mary in there somehow.

>Billie and Sarah
My weakness.

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I mean the commissioned makeouts as seen in . They're not in this thumbnail collection.

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Yeah I thought that pic had the pic you talked about but I guess it didn't

While she's not a lesbian in the sense of an exclusive attraction to women, would it not be acceptable to describe her as such as she's in a monogamous lesbian relationship?

Ok, makes sense, sorry for the question, but this is probably the only place I saw that this was addressed. I asked one of the artists who did one if I could upload it there and she actually asked me not to because she thought it might be recognized as one of her works. She's since gone on to make a lot of porn of her loli-looking characters so I don't think she cares too much anymore, but since I rarely talk to her these days I wasn't sure about how she'd feel about it since it's been a long while since the initial drawing and wasn't sure of art-protocol, thank you for being helpful user.

If that's true, then by what I just learned he's an asshole of the highest order.

Willis even abides by this rule when he's contractually obligated to (read: Slipshine)

Him releasing the make-out sketches without consent is fucking abhorrent from an artistic morality standpoint.

but maybe he got permission from those contributors. we don't know for sure

You really want tumblr weird? This is just the weirdest of the actual Willis stuff.

I'd rather not draw that.
But I'll do anything for money.

That said my prices are up from there. $10 for a sketch now. Sorry.

No, can't be. Implied rules still are rules, just ones you contractually don't have to follow unless someone asks you not to, but even then he wouldn't -have- to unless it was in a commission agreement or whatever you do for paid work. I see a lot of furry artists posting commissions they've done to their public galleries for example. I can understand why they would, since getting your art out there is a big part of commissions in the first place, but still, somebody paid for them to do this special thing for them, I think it's pretty dickish(and furries and their artists aren't known for their morals sadly, but most people who get commissions from that community don't seem to care anyway, it's a form of masturbation to have your OC drawn,) to just up and share it with everyone for free once it's been fully paid for unless you tell them straight up you're going to do it, or not wait, say, a year or so to put it up. Someone who's making that much money probably wouldn't give a fuck, since going to small claims court over a 300 dollar drawing of some lesbians facemashing each other wouldn't be a big deal if he lost one or two drawings over it.

That's not weird, it'd be a pretty interesting AU.

I don't know any person who smokes cigarettes who would grab the cigarette by anything other than the filter.

Holding it that close to the cherry is stupid.

Shouldn't Walky have a fro because he is letting his thuggish black side show?

>I'd rather not draw that
I get that. But I want it for reasons.
>But I'll do anything for money
So I might just do it. I just don't know who would be the worst character possible to make out with Ross would be.

Then he clearly doesn't smoke himself or is just trying to make smoking look cool. I bet he's in the pockets of Big Tobacco. #truthaboutsmoking.org

If they've switched it means his parents think he looks better with his hair straightened. Also Walky's hair is only curly when it's short canonically.

It's unlit.

Dina would be the worst possible character.