Would they really make for such good bioweapons?

Would they really make for such good bioweapons?

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No they would be terrible. If the enemy is armed they can beat them and you have no way of controlling them anyway so they might attack you. A group of trained soldiers would do just as well if not better if you need a weapon.

Assuming you could stop them spreading away from where you want them yes
they're fast, breed like crazy and are insanely fucking deadly. Literally just drop like a hundred facehuggers on a planet and watch it go to shit

Shut up, you know shit about xenokinos

or even better, use robots or synths. so these shits can't reproduce.

The idea would be to have them devastate and entire planet, then wait for them to die off and go collect the planet and purge any left over xenomorphs. You thinking about it way too small scale.

>Literally just drop like a hundred facehuggers on a planet and watch it go to shit
Pretty sure that's the whole point of the bioweapon part. The idea that you could recover something after sending them in probably wasn't even a concern. They are a weapon you send to totally decimate and leave the planet uninhabitable.

Metroids are metaphorically the ultimate bio weapon.

Xenomorphs are sexual assault personified. HRGiger himself confirmed this.

Depends on the planet, but I doubt it would be a quick process to have them just "die off". And eggs will always be there in some way. The eggs in the original Alien movie were there for a very long time.

Depends.

It's the equivalent of nuking someone. Once they infested a planet it is near impossible to get rid of them.

That's where the 'purging' part comes in.

>damn, peenus-weenus looks like THAT?

And how would you purge millions/billions of them without ruining the planet? I don't even think it's ever shown that they need food to survive, they only need hosts to reproduce.

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Fuck.

FUCK RIDLEY SCOTT.

Nothing can survive without food user

tardigrades can dehydrate themselves and go into suspension for extremely long periods without food, water or air.

Xenos break thermodynamics.

That's pretty much my thinking on this. If those eggs can survive on that barren planet for as long as they did, as well as it having been months before a rescue crew even got there to scope it out, I doubt they have any issues sustaining themselves.

Plus, how would you even be certain that you killed them all? It literally takes 1 drone and 1 queen egg to royally fuck up the planet again.

The Xenomorphs don't eat. They use the acid in their blood to charge themselves like some weird sex-battery.

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Lol thats fucking stupid

>xenokinos
should have went with kinomorph (or maybe xinomorph)

>Xenomorphs are sexual assault personified
where does the acid and penis mouth tongue come into the equation

Nothing can go from the size of a cat to seven feet tall in the span of an afternoon either. Nobody’s watching the alien movies for it’s autistic devotion to realistic biology.

tardigrade from ST:D vs xenomorph, who wins?

>literal murder machines with acid for blood
>are they a good bio weapon?

If you can turn them off at will; yes. But WU never thought was an option worth exploring, so no.

STD infested blood

Hell if I know. Giger had messed up things running around in his head, just look at his other art. R.I.P

It's as stupid as Jurassic World "using dinos as weapons"

Agreed.

Only if they could be controlled and pretty much exclusively for urban warfare.
There is little point in populating a planet with them, effectively making it no mans land that you can't even properly use, if you don't have a convenient killswitch or can direct them as you want.

Was thinking about this yesterday. Covenant was turd, but it potentially did two formula breaking things.
It killed both "Survivor Girls". We just need to see if boy-looking chick from Covenant is alive for the next one.

Also, the thread yesterday about the "Enginiggers" may show that there are some challenging ideas buried in among the mess.

As it stands it's going to require a radical time travel plot to straighten out all the anachronistic elements that have crept in.

No, a couple of bears will just wipe them out. Bears are assholes.

A lone drone wouldn't be able to do much. You'd need to somehow get an egg with a queen facehugger in it for them to effectively reproduce.

Is that MEW?

Ridley is long past his prime. Anyone expecting anything to make sense from here on in is delusional. It's all about bums on seast now. Don't expect Blade Runner levels of film making from him anymore.

But the new BR was better than the first one.

Nah, she looks too asian.

Metroids were invented as a solution to a very specific plague. The idea of using them as an anti-person weapon is Space Pirate retardation.

Plot hole.

How is something metaphorically the ultimate bio weapon? It either is in the canon of the work of fiction, or not.

What kind of statement is that?

*teleports behind your back from several lightyears away*
Nothing personnel kid.
*stabs you in the penis head*

What would be frightening is what happens if a facehugger manages to infect a tardigrade and the resulting xenomorph can also teleport around the universe?
Shit hits the fan, that is what would happen.

>wiping out an entire population of organisms with a superior organism
Now what do they do about the xenomorphs?

xeonomorphs are thought to have a very short lifespan, once they kill off the populace of the planet the xenomorphs might just starve off

same way the west deals with problems in the middle east

>breed like crazy
They can't even breed without a whole other organism. They would never be able to for example, outbreed a colony they were sent to attack. At the very best they could have 1:1 parity with the colony's population.

No, if you have the tech level to make something like this and are fighting against a force with similar abilities then they would be worthless.

1. Spend lots making penis monsters
2. Go through all the effort of getting giant penis monster queen on to enemy area, can't just randomly infect, too many variables, queen could sprout in the middle of the street and gig is up.
3. Establish queen hive
4. Enemy blows up hive with a single drone.
5. Should have just used a practical bioweapon.

Yeah they would.

>inb4 muh colonial memerines
*pic related*

Xenomorphs would be pretty easy to fight if you approached them with the actual millitary and not just a ragtag group of half a dozen ex-marines with machine guns in an urban environment that is ridiculously advantageous to the ayys.
Them not having any long ranged attacks makes them quite easy to deal with, if you really wanted to clean shop you could also just carpetbomb the area you let them loose on afterwards when nobody can give any resistance anymore.
Their actual lifespans are also pretty short from what I remember, they grow up quickly but then die off just as quick. Once there is only eggs left you could clear them out rather safely as long as you are cautiousness, granted you will have to find them first but I'm sure they could rig together a way to locate dormant eggs with their futuristic space age technology

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Their first encounter in Alien: Covenant is in an open wheat field, with a well trained team. They get shredded.

And the same thing that happens in every movie would happen to an elite army. Some soldiers would get impregnated and bring it with them back to base, where it would infest and spread behind the front line.

You would definitely get massive causalities.

hate to break it to you but those werent xenos and they sure as hell didnt act like them either

>Their first encounter in Alien: Covenant is in an open wheat field, with a well trained team. They get shredded.
They get surprised, have no support, and can't see shit. If a proper team that knew what they were going up against was in their place the xenomorphs would not stand a chance.

>And the same thing that happens in every movie would happen to an elite army. Some soldiers would get impregnated and bring it with them back to base, where it would infest and spread behind the front line.
Same thing here too, that only happens because they are ridiculously careless and don't know what exactly they are up against. If the xenos were actually being used as a bioweapon and then afterwards cleared out you can bet your ass there would be strict checks to make sure things like this would not happen.

protip: xenos don't fly
They make them extremely susceptible to any military with actual brains instead of turds in their skulls. just bomb the shit out of them

Nu-Xenos can spit acid from the planet's surface all the way into orbit, they don't need to be able to fly to fuck you up.

>Nu-Xenos
The fuck? Are those xenos that hatch form nu-males?
I'm not gonna lie, I've only watched movies, what else is there to alien universe?

Don't question it, you're just giving these cunts room to lie at you

They are an effective bioweapon if you want to cleanse a planet that only has a few mining outposts or someshit like that and you want to frame it as an accident.
Dropping them on populated planets is retarded. The risk of them getting offplanet is too high and the cleanup operations are dangerous too. Unless you want to wait for them to all die of hunger somehow, but that just doesn't seem practical.

So all in all I'd say they are a shit bio weapon. Instead of wasting all of your time engineering them, just insert a special strike team and go sabotage the mining outposts to make them uninhabitable. I can maybe see a few one time uses if they are a natural species and you caught some for some reason, but otherwise they aren't worth the time and risk.

You see the ones David created in Covenant use their acid spit as projectiles

They would be great if every place you attack has convenient ducts, tunnels and enclosed spaces.

They would be excellent as a terror weapon vs civilians but any half-competent military force should be able to deal with them.

I thought you don't use the enemies weapons or build tech around their core.

That lore was made up a lot later on. When Metroids were first conceived by the writers, they were as bio-weapons.

Director H. Kojima.

they make for good creatures to begin with. If you are looking at the OG alien movie alone, I'd say they are on par with those nanobots that dissemble all molecules to little bits. Looking at the rest of the franchise, probably not the greatest threat. A non-militarized populous would have trouble with them but with the military force of earth or more would probably not be killed off. I always felt like the kinomorph wasn't for planet-wide bioweapons that much as much as it would super-effectively kill in small quarters like ships, substations, space stations, etc. They would be more for cold war style hold ups like nuclear arms.

Would they even wipe out the population though? A well informed military should be able to uphold quarantine zones around the xenomorph infected areas

The alien in the first movie is thematically a worker, because it replaces Kane and settles in a freight ship. Hell, even in Aliens the aliens come from civilian workers and take over a factory/powerplant of sorts.

The bioweapon thing is plotwank because the movies are always kinda vague about what specifically makes the creature so valuable.

If you can fly in space without problems across whole galaxies and have can literally create life like a god, then you probably can harness enough energy to destroy planet without much problems (using some sort of energy/wave weapons to cleanse it of lie would be even easier)

No.
Because an army knowing against who they are going to fight will easily destroy them.

The Xenomorphs aren't a bioweapon. They are the result of one.
The actual bioweapon is the black goo the spaceniggers were producing in Prometheus, the thing that transforms other lifeforms into what we know as the Xenomorphs and its subspecies.
What happens is you spread this shit and all of a sudden absolutely everything on the world starts devastating your enemy, the birds, the dogs, the insects, everything. The emergence of the titular aliens is honestly one of the least threatening applications of this weapon.

>extremely long periods
Doesn’t say “Never needs”

>robots or synths
Yeah but the implication of the Space Jockey set design was that they were a biotechnological species. Prometheus kind of undid that and I haven't seen Covenant, but the original implication from Giger's imagery was that they didn't really do machines with wires and cables

>ultimate bio weapon
Hurr durr sure hope no one decides to freeze muh BABY

>The eggs in the original Alien movie were there for a very long time.
Those eggs were in some kind of suspended animation storage chamber while being transported, you can see the dude who goes into the hollow break some kind of shield-seal.

They're still a way worse bio-weapon than just some pox, though. Or some old-fashioned orbital bombardment.

this, the black goo was cool af

According to the dvd extras she's still alive when David sent the threat yutani about a queen

why not just use nerve gas the entire planet with no warning and spare yourself the trouble of cleaning up xenomorphs and all that weird slimy shit they leave all over the place

this, engineered organics are far superior to dumb metal robots

What are the tubes on their backs for?